xskyx Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He sees Cooper at 2. He's a good writer. Not a DLed.This will be a game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They brought him in last week and need a playmaker at WR. Heard they would trade down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Doesn't change for us much, Mariota's still going top 5. I totally believe Titans may take Cooper, there FO likes Mettenburger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Titans have something in play for Phillip Rivers, so they should take the best receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Titans have something in play for Phillip Rivers, so they should take the best receiver.But they may have to give up the 2nd overall pick to get Rivers.Chargers would want Mariota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 That'd be a good move for them honestly. Worst receiving corps in the league. And if they have something in play for Rivers (haven't followed them too much) it makes even more sense. They could be a competitor with Cooper and Rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 This would push Leonard and Fowler down closer to us. With the Titans taking a wr, that could change the picks up big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjdamonster11 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 That would not change the draft..furthest Mariota falls is 6 to the jets..both players will be gone before us no matter what the scenario is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2000 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't think they take Mariota either. Still a possibility that he goes #2 though to Cleveland, San Diego, Jets, somebody. I would be surprised if he doesn't go before we pick, but we have seen QBs drop before.I think Whisenhunt/Titans are content with Mettenberger over Mariota based on the system they run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmo_dlo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They can't get both Cooper and Rivers because they would need to trade away the 2nd pick in a Rivers deal. Also, if they want Cooper they have to take him at 2nd, because there is strong indication that Jags like Cooper as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 This would push Leonard and Fowler down closer to us. With the Titans taking a wr, that could change the picks up big time.It doesn't change the draft at all. If Mariota somehow doesn't go at 2, he will at 3 or 4 by way of trade. Cooper was also always going before 8, so it changes nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) If the Titans view Mettenberger as as their future QB, then Cooper at 2 would make sense. Edited April 27, 2015 by FentayeJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I would be surprised if he doesn't go before we pick, but we have seen QBs drop before.No likes from Brady Quinn on this post lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 There's no way to discern the value of anything that anyone is saying right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Titans have something in play for Phillip Rivers, so they should take the best receiver.if Titans get Rivers, then they won't have the #2 pick to select Amari Cooper.If Rivers deal goes down, I believe they will swap 1st round picks.# 2 pick = 2,600pts#17 pick = 950ptsdifference = 1,650pts = #6 pick in the draftheck, Chargers might have to give up more than just Rivers and #17 pick to get the #2 pick as other teams want that pick to take Mariota. Of course the ace-in-the-hole for Bolts is they have Rivers and Titans probably want him badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 It doesn't change the draft at all. If Mariota somehow doesn't go at 2, he will at 3 or 4 by way of trade. Cooper was also always going before 8, so it changes nothingIt changes the fact that Williams could last until 3, Fowler to 4, making trading up for either (if we're so inclined) cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 if Titans get Rivers, then they won't have the #2 pick to select Amari Cooper.If Rivers deal goes down, I believe they will swap 1st round picks.# 2 pick = 2,600pts#17 pick = 950ptsdifference = 1,650pts = #6 pick in the draftheck, Chargers might have to give up more than just Rivers and #17 pick to get the #2 pick as other teams want that pick to take Mariota. Of course the ace-in-the-hole for Bolts is they have Rivers and Titans probably want him badly.The valuation for a Rivers/#2 trade is ALL OVER THE PLACE. I was talking with a buddy about it yesterday. He thought Rivers and a 3rd for #2 is what will happen...but he felt that the Rivers side was stronger. I thought Rivers+17 = 2. I've heard others state 2+? = Rivers. Such a weird trade....I have no idea what I would expect the trade to involve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 It changes the fact that Williams could last until 3, Fowler to 4, making trading up for either (if we're so inclined) cheaper.Dingdingding.Winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 1)TB - Winston, 2)TEN - Cooper, 3)NYJ (from JAX) - Marriota, 4)OAK - White, 5)WAS - Fowler, 6)ATL(from JAX/NYJ) - Williams, 7) CHI - Beasley, 8)JAX (from ATL) - Gurley.....JAX gets NYJ 2015 #2 and 2016 #2, and get ATL 2015 #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The valuation for a Rivers/#2 trade is ALL OVER THE PLACE. I was talking with a buddy about it yesterday. He thought Rivers and a 3rd for #2 is what will happen...but he felt that the Rivers side was stronger. I thought Rivers+17 = 2. I've heard others state 2+? = Rivers. Such a weird trade....I have no idea what I would expect the trade to involve. You have to put yourself in Bolts shoes - if they give up Rivers, they have to get the QB of the future back in the deal - otherwise it is a PR nightmare. Even though Rivers only has one year left on deal, Bolts could still franchise him two years thereafter - at that point, his career would be over or almost over - so Rivers does not have a lot of "hand" in this deal.Here is my guess:Bolts Trade:Phillip Rivers#1-017 pick2nd round pick in 2016Titans Trade:#1-002 pick (which will be used by Bolts to select Marcus Mariota)Done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Where are you seeing this? This is his tweet from a couple of hours ago... Jim Wyatt @jwyattsports · 2h 2 hours ago #Titans top 3 scenarios 3 days b4 draft:1 Trade 4 Rivers (up 2 SD)2 Pick Mariota/Winston3 Get haul n trade (& stick w Mett)Most likely-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Where are you seeing this? This is his tweet from a couple of hours ago...Give me a few mins I'll dig it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 see, what I am hearing is it will take the #2 pick plus others to get Rivers. Why would chargers give anything with Rivers? They are trading a top 5-7 QB for an unkown rookie. Even with him not looking to sign, they can make him play this year, then tag and trade him for a haul after the season. SD doesnt have to cave at all here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 You have to put yourself in Bolts shoes - if they give up Rivers, they have to get the QB of the future back in the deal - otherwise it is a PR nightmare. Even though Rivers only has one year left on deal, Bolts could still franchise him two years thereafter - at that point, his career would be over or almost over - so Rivers does not have a lot of "hand" in this deal.Here is my guess:Bolts Trade:Phillip Rivers#1-017 pick2nd round pick in 2016Titans Trade:#1-002 pick (which will be used by Bolts to select Marcus Mariota)Done...Rivers could walk after this year though.....if they franchise him, he retires. No big deal for him.I get how it works for the Chargers....what I don't have a good grasp on is how the Titans would value Rivers. On one hand, 3+ years of a Top 10 QB in the league is pretty awesome. On the other hand, that QB is 34, will need ~$20m per year and isnt a long term solution. IDK....I could see Rivers bringing back a 1st and a 2nd on the open trade market...but I could also see him being included with 17 to balance 2. Glad I'm not making the deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Check out @jwyattsports's Tweet: https://twitter.com/jwyattsports/status/592698861665267712Reads:I see USC's Leonard Williams to #Titans in a lot of mock drafts. He's a great player, but I don't see that happening.Then in comments reads from a fan:@jwyattsports thanks Jim. who in your opinion is most likely if no mariota and no trade down?Then he replys: bigger needs. Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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