Trouble Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The Falcons have made at least one trade in each of General Manager Thomas Dimitroff’s seven drafts in charge, some of them bigger than others.And according to D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the next one might be to acquire the pass-rusher they’ve needed for a few years.With the traditional “it shouldn’t be a surprise” qualifier, Ledbetter suggests the target is Florida defensive end Dante Fowler.New Falcons coach Dan Quinn recruited Fowler when he was a Gators assistant and coached him two years, but the need goes beyond their familiarity. The Falcons badly need to find a pass-rusher to go along with their defensive makeover this offseason.“There is a lot of discussions already about moving both ways with a lot of our peers in the league,” Dimitroff said. “A lot of it has to do with what goes down with the top three picks. That’s going to set the tone for how much movement there is into the top 10 and even in the top five.”That third spot, currently owned by Jacksonville, could be the pivot for the Falcons, as the Jaguars could justify using it on Fowler, defensive tackle Leonard Williams or a receiver such as Amari Cooper. Then again, the Jaguars have sufficient needs that they could find a fit deeper in the draft, and the eighth spot would suffice.Jacksonville general manager Dave Caldwell worked for Dimitroff, so there’s also a familiarity there that could help facilitate a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If TD finds a trade partner, there's little doubt he'll trade up. From what I remember, he wanted to desperately last year, but couldn't find a trade partnerI'll not be surprised if he does, I just don't think he needs to in order to select an impact player, just not at the position he wants.If Gurley's there at 8, or Scherff, both will make an impact, just not on the defensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcrook Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Last year I said they should stay at 6 instead of trading up because it was a "can't lose" situation. After watching Jake Matthews play last season, I say trade up this year if they really want a certain player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Last year I said they should stay at 6 instead of trading up because it was a "can't lose" situation. After watching Jake Matthews play last season, I say trade up this year if they really want a certain player. I'd agree, depending on what they have to give up to move up 4 or 5 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 trading away picks to get fowler would be a travesty. I'd be for giving up roddy white and a swap, depending on how high they wanted to go. td needs to fkin relax and just let **** play out. they nearly traded up for jake mathews last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 jake matthews played exceptional considering he had a bum ankle.final quarter of the season (excluding carolina game) he and schraeder were playing like top ten tackles. don't know what happened in week 17 though.. carolina dropped elbows on em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 well it wont be up to td.lest we forget that quinn gets final say.that means if the falcons move up, its bc quinn wanted to move up. if fowler is quinns guy to that extent then im all for it until its proven to be a dumb *** move.actually.. pioli is handling the draft and td has the final say... after scott fills the roster, its quinns to pick and choose who makes the final cut.atleast that's how they explained it. More than likely it'll be a collaboration or it will be up to who is the most convincing. im starting to wonder why scott is even here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O-Ther Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If they do trade up, they'll regret not signing enough players in free agency. Smart move would be to add as many rookies as possible by staying put or trading down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 actually.. pioli is handling the draft and td has the final say... after scott fills the roster, its quinns to pick and choose who makes the final cut.atleast that's how they explained it. More than likely it'll be a collaboration or it will be up to who is the most convincing. im starting to wonder why scott is even here. Don't forget Artie's gonna have his nose stuck in the Falcons war room all day, no matter what they tell you all.He has far more input than you all would like to believe. Actually TD hasn't done all that bad with his #1 picks, it's all those pesky 2nd through 7th round picks where he's had problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rwhite84 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think the former trades are most of the foundation of this rumor, I don't think there's a real possibility we trade (at least our 2016 pick) to move up 5 spots for him. They said they were mostly judging prospects on tape, and I don't think no matter how you look at the tape he's that much better than Ray, Gregory. I think where it becomes most possible is if he falls to 5 or 6, and we could work out a deal with the Jets or Redskins, but I still wouldn't bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Don't forget Artie's gonna have his nose stuck in the Falcons war room all day, no matter what they tell you all.He has far more input than you all would like to believe. Actually TD hasn't done all that bad with his #1 picks, it's all those pesky 2nd through 7th round picks where he's had problems.mike smith's nose wont be in there. that's all that matters to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treefiddy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think Williams, Beasley and Fowler Jr. are a pretty big step above the rest......If they want to get a sure fire thing, they may need to trade up. There aren't as many good pass rushers projected for next season (unless we hold the #1 overall pick for Bosa)If we can fill in the pieces this season, it may be worth giving up next years #1 for Williams or Fowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints4life25 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think Williams, Beasley and Fowler Jr. are a pretty big step above the rest......If they want to get a sure fire thing, they may need to trade up. There aren't as many good pass rushers projected for next season (unless we hold the #1 overall pick for Bosa)If we can fill in the pieces this season, it may be worth giving up next years #1 for Williams or Fowler.I tend to agree with this sentiment. While I feel like the Falcons have many holes to fill on defense, if you're close enough to make the jump for a player head and shoulders above the rest, I say make it. You only get so many chances to take a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcrook Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think the falcons could stay at 8 and get Beasley, as much as I'd hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treefiddy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think the falcons could stay at 8 and get Beasley, as much as I'd hate it. We'd have to get lucky and hope the Jags take Williams, the Skins take Fowler, the Jets go full ****** and draft Ray or a WR and the Bears go OL... I don't see it happening. Either the Jets or Bears take Beasley and we get stuck with Ray/Dupree or Scherff (or a trade back)We simply won't be getting that franchise guy there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nola90 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Tennessee and Washington both reported they won't be going for Leonard Williams if he's available, so expect some top 5 trades come Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcrook Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 We'd have to get lucky and hope the Jags take Williams, the Skins take Fowler, the Jets go full ****** and draft Ray or a WR and the Bears go OL... I don't see it happening. Either the Jets or Bears take Beasley and we get stuck with Ray/Dupree or Scherff (or a trade back)We simply won't be getting that franchise guy there...Yeah, you're probably right. I just have a feeling that he gets to the falcons someway because I don't want him to. In my opinion, he's a better player than Fowler. All of this changes, however, if he actually becomes a falcon. Them, I'll be forced to call him a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Saints got the ammo to move up. I say pull the trigger crazy mickey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Saints got the ammo to move up. I say pull the trigger crazy mickey.Crazy Mickey, i love that name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treefiddy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Saints got the ammo to move up. I say pull the trigger crazy mickey.They got a lot of holes.I see them staying put and taking Dupree and Phillip Dorsett. (with Spiller and Cooks that would be scary as ****.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They got a lot of holes.I see them staying put and taking Dupree and Phillip Dorsett. (with Spiller and Cooks that would be scary as ****.)I agree, but i think Payton is impatient and may try to move up. I hope not though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They got a lot of holes.I see them staying put and taking Dupree and Phillip Dorsett. (with Spiller and Cooks that would be scary as ****.)They would do it. gaping holes at oline and defense. draft a receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treefiddy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They would do it. gaping holes at oline and defense. draft a receiverEspecially one identical to Cooks. Can Drew Brees throw the ball 40 yards in 4.3 seconds anymore? If so, YIKES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcrook Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 They would do it. gaping holes at oline and defense. draft a receiverNothing would surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Especially one identical to Cooks. Can Drew Brees throw the ball 40 yards in 4.3 seconds anymore? If so, YIKES!Different type of receiver though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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