datchrisb1 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) First of all, 2016 is more like a players to watch for mock. It's impossible to accurately estimate where players land that far out. 2015: Round 1: Randy Gregory (Nebraska) DE/OLB/LEO- Alvin Bud Dupree is a 2 year project at best. That's fact, not because of some kind of measurables, but because the tape says so. You don't take a project at 8, you take a player who can help you immediately, Gregory is that player that can improve our defense day one. Round 2: Donovan Smith (Penn State) RT- We still need a RT, Smith can be our day one starter at RT, very physical, excellent run blocker. Round 3: Clive Walford (Miami) TE- Shanahan needs that H-Back flex type TE in his offense, especially in those double TE sets, Walford with Tamme can play that role. Round 4: Henry Anderson (Stanford) DE/DT- Anderson will add alot of flexibility up front for us, we need talent up front. That's our biggest weakness. We have zero true threats as pass rushers, and Anderson can become one. Very underrated player. Round 5: Josh Robinson RB (Mississippi State) RB- Get a one cut power back for our offense. He fits the system and complements what we already have. Round 6: Mario Alford (West Virginia) WR/KR/RB- Pick up a potential slot guy, at the least a starting kick returner. He could develop into a Darren Sproles type weapon in our offense. Round 7: Justin Cox (Mississippi State) DB- He's a corner at Mississippi State that loves to lay the wood. I think he will be a safety in the league, at the least an excellent player for us on special teams. Round 7: Derrick Malone Jr (Oregon) LB- He's a speed guy, slightly undersized, but he has the ability to be a great cover linebacker, third down, third and long type guy for us. He could develop into an every down linebacker, he has the frame. Also could be great for us on special teams. My UDFA seven: Quinterrius Eatmon OT (South Florida) Synjin Days RB (Georgia Tech) Skye PoVey S (BYU) Levi Norwood WR (Alabama) Ben Beckworth OG (Mississippi State) Connor Neighbor FB (LSU) John Crockett RB (North Dakota State) Between a 9 and 11 win season depends on how we handle first half of the schedule. 2016: Round 1: Bronson Kaufasi DE (BYU) Round 2: Von Pearson WR (Tennessee) Round 3: Lee Hightower S (Houston) Round 4: Dadi Nicholas LB/DE (Virginia Tech) Round 5: (NOISE GATE) Round 5: Sedrick Flowers OG (Texas) Compensatory (Sean Weatherspoon, Corey Peters) Round 6: D.J. Reader DT (Clemson) Round 7: Jaxon Hood DT (Arizona State) Edited April 26, 2015 by datchrisb1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkridge Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 2016 already? The only two 2016 prospects I'm keeping my eye on are Ezekiel Elliot and Shawn Oakman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Decent mock. Wouldn't be happy nor mad. No point in even touching 2016. We have no clue who emerges from this team. There are some talented guys that may develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 2016 already? The only two 2016 prospects I'm keeping my eye on are Ezekiel Elliot and Shawn Oakman. First statement -"First of all, 2016 is more like a players to watch for mock. It's impossible to accurately estimate where players land that far out." Decent mock. Wouldn't be happy nor mad. No point in even touching 2016. We have no clue who emerges from this team. There are some talented guys that may develop. First statement -"First of all, 2016 is more like a players to watch for mock. It's impossible to accurately estimate where players land that far out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 2016 already? The only two 2016 prospects I'm keeping my eye on are Ezekiel Elliot and Shawn Oakman. Arizona LB Scooby Wright III and Alabama CB Cyrus Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Didn't Von Pearson just get busted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rwhite84 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) I would love it if this happened, Gregory's got a lot of issues, but his talent is undeniable, Walford is one of my favorite offensive players in the draft, and when I throw on the tape Henry Anderson reminds me of JJ Watt in many ways, severely underrated prospect. Also this is the first 2016 mock I've seen, props to you for doing homework on it. Edited April 27, 2015 by Rwhite84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Didn't Von Pearson just get busted?You know what you are so right, forgot about that even though it just happened. Guess I didn't do too much homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 2016 already? The only two 2016 prospects I'm keeping my eye on are Ezekiel Elliot and Shawn Oakman.And unless you plan on us tanking another season we aren't getting Shawn Oakman, no telling where these guys end up but I don't see him as anything below a top 10 guy at least right now. You could be right, he could be there, heck I thought about "selecting" him, just didnt see us finishing like 3-13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) You know what you are so right, forgot about that even though it just happened. Guess I didn't do too much homework.I live in Tennessee, so it's bigger deal here.Another great athlete who blows it all chasing tail Edited April 28, 2015 by Vandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I clearly read your first sentence. We don't even know who we have on the roster to even know what positions to look forward to in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkridge Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Arizona LB Scooby Wright III and Alabama CB Cyrus JonesThanks, I'll keep an eye out for these guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for these guys! Definitely do. Jones likely isn't going to be in 1st round discussions because he's only 5'10, but he's probably the best cover corner in the nation. Scooby Wright is my favorite college football player right now, period. I love watching that dude play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Scooby Wright was insane last year, I'm not entirely sure where his best position is in the NFL, and I'd be interested in his combine numbers, but he's certainly one to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) First of all, 2016 is more like a players to watch for mock. It's impossible to accurately estimate where players land that far out.2015:Round 1: Randy Gregory (Nebraska) DE/OLB/LEO- Alvin Bud Dupree is a 2 year project at best. That's fact, not because of some kind of measurables, but because the tape says so. You don't take a project at 8, you take a player who can help you immediately, Gregory is that player that can improve our defense day one.Round 2: Donovan Smith (Penn State) RT- We still need a RT, Smith can be our day one starter at RT, very physical, excellent run blocker.Round 3: Clive Walford (Miami) TE- Shanahan needs that H-Back flex type TE in his offense, especially in those double TE sets, Walford with Tamme can play that role.Round 4: Henry Anderson (Stanford) DE/DT- Anderson will add alot of flexibility up front for us, we need talent up front. That's our biggest weakness. We have zero true threats as pass rushers, and Anderson can become one. Very underrated player.Round 5: Josh Robinson RB (Mississippi State) RB- Get a one cut power back for our offense. He fits the system and complements what we already have.Round 6: Mario Alford (West Virginia) WR/KR/RB- Pick up a potential slot guy, at the least a starting kick returner. He could develop into a Darren Sproles type weapon in our offense.Round 7: Justin Cox (Mississippi State) DB- He's a corner at Mississippi State that loves to lay the wood. I think he will be a safety in the league, at the least an excellent player for us on special teams.Round 7: Derrick Malone Jr (Oregon) LB- He's a speed guy, slightly undersized, but he has the ability to be a great cover linebacker, third down, third and long type guy for us. He could develop into an every down linebacker, he has the frame. Also could be great for us on special teams.My UDFA seven:Quinterrius Eatmon OT (South Florida)Synjin Days RB (Georgia Tech)Skye PoVey S (BYU)Levi Norwood WR (Alabama)Ben Beckworth OG (Mississippi State)Connor Neighbor FB (LSU)John Crockett RB (North Dakota State)Between a 9 and 11 win season depends on how we handle first half of the schedule.2016:Round 1: Bronson Kaufasi DE (BYU)Round 2: Von Pearson WR (Tennessee)Round 3: Lee Hightower S (Houston)Round 4: Dadi Nicholas LB/DE (Virginia Tech)Round 5: (NOISE GATE)Round 5: Sedrick Flowers OG (Texas) Compensatory (Sean Weatherspoon, Corey Peters)Round 6: D.J. Reader DT (Clemson)Round 7: Jaxon Hood DT (Arizona State)Wait so that I can understand you correctly. All these players are projects right? That is why they are called prospects. Yet you will pass up on a guy that you view as a 2 year project to take a guy that fails every drug test he takes. Alrighty then I see and understand your logic and it is flawed! Edited April 28, 2015 by Sobeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Wait so that I can understand you correctly. All these players are projects right? That is why they are called prospects. Yet you will pass up on a guy that you view as a 2 year project to take a guy that fails every drug test he takes. Alrighty then I see and understand your logic and it is flawed!What are you talking about? I take it you are a Dupree fan or something....Um, I mean I would respond but I would like to respond accurately, your comment is so vague... Are you saying I should not want to use a top 10 pick on a player that can help my team immediately? A "project" and a "prospect" isn't the same thing man. All of "these" players aren't "NFL projects". I think Dupree won't help us immediately. He is the definition of "look like Tarzan play like Jane"/ "NFL project" to me. That is my opinion. Is that what your saying that is "flawed"? To me that isn't "flawed", it might be different from your opinion, but it's not flawed dude. ****, half the league see's Dupree the same way, your in the minority there, heck half this chat is really by putting combine numbers and recorded times ahead of what the actual game tape shows you. Or is it the weed thing, because Justin Houston failed every drug test in front of him also coming out, 85% of the NFL smoke weed and that's on the low end? He's not the only one Warren Sapp comes to mind as well. Is that the "flawed" part. I mean, I think that is just a GROWN MAN realistic perspective on life, the world, etc... basically nobody's perfect... I'm not about getting choir boys, I'm about winning. I don't know Gregory personally, never talked to him, not going to act like I do know him, so I'm not making decisions on character here. If your his best friend, you know him well then cool, great for you! I guess I am "flawed" then since you KNOW HIM! I know doctors, engineers, good dudes straight up father figures that smoke weed. If you want to exaggerate that like the rest, participate in that "out cry" then go ahead, because that's what it is an "out cry", just as long as you don't poke me with that pitch fork. Look it up the meaning of the phrase... Edited April 28, 2015 by datchrisb1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) What are you talking about? My point exactly! I do not believe you even read what you wrote. Your commentary on your first round pick. That you would pass on a 2 year project to take take a project that can not pass a drug test. It just seems to me that your logic is terribly flawed. Not to mention the only evidence for what you write is your opinion. Everyone can tell you that there are no guarantees when it comes to this. Edited April 28, 2015 by Sobeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 I clearly read your first sentence. We don't even know who we have on the roster to even know what positions to look forward to in 2016. , says Mr. Obvious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 My point exactly! I do not believe you even read what you wrote. Your commentary on your first round pick. That you would pass on a 2 year project to take take a project that can not pass a drug test. It just seems to me that your logic is terribly flawed. Not to mention the only evidence for what you write is your opinion. Everyone can tell you that there are no guarantees when it comes to this.LOL"My point exactly! I do not believe you even read what you wrote"-I know what I wrote, sometimes people simply can't understand the possibility of an opinion just being different. "Not to mention the only evidence for what you write is your opinion."-Isn't that what this is, what a mock is "your opinion". I'm sorry Sobeit the "Football Science Guy". Isn't what your post is YOUR OPINION. I mean really. Evidence, is this a trial or something..." That you would pass on a 2 year project to take take a project that can not pass a drug test." -Okay, dude, I would pass on a player I am investing a top 10 pick on if I think he is too much of a developmental project. I want an immediate STARTER at 8, you disagree cool whatever.And yes I would take Gregory who failed mutliple drug tests, simply because I'm not I would say naive enough to think that all of this time these NFL teams, these draft ranking boards that you look at didn't already know about the multiple failed drug tests. He has been a top 10 pick his whole career at Nebraska with those failed drug tests, and I'm not naive enough to not understand that this information wasn't already out there, just not out there for you and me. The reason why you know this now is so teams like say an Arizona at 21 that want him can drive his stock down. That's it! He's not a serial killer! I don't know him, never met him, I'm basing my views on how good a football player he is, that's it. Like I said if you know him well cool more power to you, but I don't and I'm not going to proceed like I do know him other than the football field. That's where my opinion stops. Do you understand now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I respect this thread and appreciate the concept but I detest your first 3 picks. Gregory looks like a project himself, we have no need for a RT whatsoever, and I really don't see us drafting a TE this year with the depth we have there, despite their general mediocrity. I like the Anderson and Malone picks though. For 2016, I'd love Justin Thomas from GT. Hope he gets a fair shot at QB, but he would be a great skill player if moved around too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 LOL"My point exactly! I do not believe you even read what you wrote"-I know what I wrote, sometimes people simply can't understand the possibility of an opinion just being different. "Not to mention the only evidence for what you write is your opinion."-Isn't that what this is, what a mock is "your opinion". I'm sorry Sobeit the "Football Science Guy". Isn't what your post is YOUR OPINION. I mean really. Evidence, is this a trial or something..." That you would pass on a 2 year project to take take a project that can not pass a drug test." -Okay, dude, I would pass on a player I am investing a top 10 pick on if I think he is too much of a developmental project. I want an immediate STARTER at 8, you disagree cool whatever.And yes I would take Gregory who failed mutliple drug tests, simply because I'm not I would say naive enough to think that all of this time these NFL teams, these draft ranking boards that you look at didn't already know about the multiple failed drug tests. He has been a top 10 pick his whole career at Nebraska with those failed drug tests, and I'm not naive enough to not understand that this information wasn't already out there, just not out there for you and me. The reason why you know this now is so teams like say an Arizona at 21 that want him can drive his stock down. That's it! He's not a serial killer! I don't know him, never met him, I'm basing my views on how good a football player he is, that's it. Like I said if you know him well cool more power to you, but I don't and I'm not going to proceed like I do know him other than the football field. That's where my opinion stops. Do you understand now.Well I am not a fan of anyone. There are players I like but to say I am a fan is a big stretch. Just on reading what you wrote the logic appears flawed to me. There is a fair chance any of these players do not pan out but lets pass on the high character guy with a ton of upside to take the player with the drug problem and lets do it based on your opinion of how you believe he will perform in the NFL. If the roll was reversed you can bet I would be making the same argument against Dupree. Cause at the end of the day it is not about who I am a fan of or what I think it is about limiting chances and risk and improving a football team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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