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Gregory is too small. Dupree is the guy that i wouldnt mind us taking in the first if beasley and fowler are both off the boards. But if those 3 are gone.......gurley it is. Something about those mizzu players i just dont like

I know you do....you went on in another thread about how small Dupree is - when he is the biggest of all the edge rushers.

Bud Dupree, 6'4", 269lbs - that is MAN size - big enough to be a traditional 4-3 DE. Now the LEO position is more of a hybrid - but Dupree has the size and the skill set to be more versatile than the other guys.

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I know you do....you went on in another thread about how small Dupree is - when he is the biggest of all the edge rushers.

Bud Dupree, 6'4", 269lbs - that is MAN size - big enough to be a traditional 4-3 DE. Now the LEO position is more of a hybrid - but Dupree has the size and the skill set to be more versatile than the other guys.

Fast enough to drop into coverage and to chase tight ends. Versatile.

I keep thinking that something big is going to happen that will change the Top 10 dramatically. A team trading up to get a QB etc.

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Dupree literally possesses no pass rush moves. 5th year senior. Even with a crappy coaching staff he may be a big reach at 8

The problem wasn't just a bad coaching staff; the problem was there was a new coaching staff installing a new system every year. They were installing and teaching a new system--- systems that Dupree learned and learned well--- rather than teaching and refining techniques.

His lack of technique is definitely a short-term minus. But his ability and willingness to learn so many systems so well should be considered a long-term advantage.

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It's a small thing, and I do like Dupree...but I'd be way more eager to jump on his train if a report came out that he was working with Chuck Smith like Gregory and Ray. Not to judge him for not doing that, but I'd love to hear Smith's hands-on opinion. Kinda like how Ray and Beasley working out together is so encouraging for Beasley's dog mentality. I mean, you see it on the field, but he's so soft spoken off of it...hearing that he works out with Ray on top of everything makes me giddy. Still like Dupree. It's just that a prospect with terrible technique (even if he's a monster one-of-a-kind athlete) is a scary proposal at 8.

Still good with it if it happens, but not my first choice.

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Dupree was on NFL radio today, and mentioned that he did NOT go to a specialist camp to prepare for the Combine. He stayed at school and trained.

That tells me that his Combine numbers were not artificially inflated. If coached specifically to do so, could he have run an even faster 40?

It also shows something that I think hurt his development.

Loyalty.

After a coaching change, couldn't he have chosen to transfer to a school with a more stable coaching situation? Can you imagine what Saban could have done with a specimen like Dupree?

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Dupree has short arms which is a big minus when it comes to Quinn's liking. And 5 years is enough time to develop one or two pass rushing moves which Dupree has not done.

Optimal arm length is 34", according to Pat Kirwan.

Dupree's arms are 32 5/8". That is only a little more than an inch shorter than optimal. Several top pass rushers have 33" or shorter arms.

He does not have "short arms".

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Optimal arm length is 34", according to Pat Kirwan.

Dupree's arms are 32 5/8". That is only a little more than an inch shorter than optimal. Several top pass rushers have 33" or shorter arms.

He does not have "short arms".

Compared to the top pass rushers, he has short arms. Hence why he has trouble shedding blocks on film.
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Compared to the top pass rushers, he has short arms. Hence why he has trouble shedding blocks on film.

I believe Watt's arms are 33". Not certain.

And no, his arm length isn't why he can't shed blocks. He doesn't know how to use his hands, or body leverage. He had a different coaching staff every year installing a new system, instead of coaching technique.

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I believe Watt's arms are 33". Not certain.

And no, his arm length isn't why he can't shed blocks. He doesn't know how to use his hands, or body leverage. He had a different coaching staff every year installing a new system, instead of coaching technique.

Watts are 34 by the way. Anyways, Gregory has only played D1 football for 2 years and has 5 times better hand technique than Dupree. You would think with all the different coaches Dupree has had being a 5yr senior that someone would teach him a swim or move.
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Watts are 34 by the way. Anyways, Gregory has only played D1 football for 2 years and has 5 times better hand technique than Dupree. You would think with all the different coaches Dupree has had being a 5yr senior that someone would teach him a swim or move.

All the different coaches were installing all the different systems instead of technique.

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All the different coaches were installing all the different systems instead of technique.

Why are you so keen on riding duprees nuts? If he was a generational talent like you've stated before, then why is it so hard to see, and why are at least 4 edge rushers unanimously rated higher than him? Dudes a workout warrior, and with THAT freakish ability, he should've produced high numbers. Even gholston did. Dupree sucks. Hope he is a saint after day 1.

Lol using the 4 different coaches excuse. Clearly oldskooler, is a new schooler, just looking at combine numbers. Harold >>>>>>>>> Dupree.

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It's a small thing, and I do like Dupree...but I'd be way more eager to jump on his train if a report came out that he was working with Chuck Smith like Gregory and Ray. Not to judge him for not doing that, but I'd love to hear Smith's hands-on opinion. Kinda like how Ray and Beasley working out together is so encouraging for Beasley's dog mentality. I mean, you see it on the field, but he's so soft spoken off of it...hearing that he works out with Ray on top of everything makes me giddy. Still like Dupree. It's just that a prospect with terrible technique (even if he's a monster one-of-a-kind athlete) is a scary proposal at 8.

Still good with it if it happens, but not my first choice.

no offense to you Falcan Moore - but I think the "Chuck Smith-coach" love is a little overdone in this town.

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no offense to you Falcan Moore - but I think the "Chuck Smith-coach" love is a little overdone in this town.

I just wanted his opinion on Dupree. Hence the "Not to judge him for not doing that, but I'd love to hear Smith's hands-on opinion."

Just having a hard time getting a read on Dupree and want to know how fast he learns.

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Why are you so keen on riding duprees nuts? If he was a generational talent like you've stated before, then why is it so hard to see, and why are at least 4 edge rushers unanimously rated higher than him?

I want the Falcons to draft him because I believe he will be the best player out of this draft.

Marino was the #6 rated QB in 1982.

Tom Brady was a 6th rounder.

Many people rated Leaf ahead of Manning.

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I want the Falcons to draft him because I believe he will be the best player out of this draft.

Marino was the #6 rated QB in 1982.

Tom Brady was a 6th rounder.

Many people rated Leaf ahead of Manning.

I just don't see it, and have a lot doubt in his technique, and ability to take the input, and translate it to the field. Agree to disagree.
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I want the Falcons to draft him because I believe he will be the best player out of this draft.

Marino was the #6 rated QB in 1982.

Tom Brady was a 6th rounder.

Many people rated Leaf ahead of Manning.

That is the conclusion I reached. He will cause offenses trouble because he just disrupts things. He probably will not end up being the best pure pass rusher but he will be more than good enough at it. His strength lies in what all you can do with him and how he improves a defense as a whole. Simply put out of all the names kicked around this board he is the most versatile and the best football player. Quinn has met with him a couple of times I do wonder just how Quinn sees him and what he thinks he could do with him in his scheme because I do see him as great LEO.

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