DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 1) Shane Ray LEO Missouri2) Damarious Randall FS Arizona State3) David Johnson RB Northern IowaOR1) Todd Gurley RB Georgia2) Preston Smith DE Mississippi State3) Clive Walford TE Miami (FL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) #1Thank you. Pass rush is the biggest need, and the defense will only go as far as our pass rush. After the top 5-6 Edge rushers, there's not many, if any legit speed, LEO rushers. Gurley in 1st would be TURRIBLE. Would set this team back farther than the Julio trade. Perfect opportunity to get a franchise pass rusher. We can't **** it up.........Unless we trade from 2, back into 1st for Gregory. He will slip big time. Edited April 21, 2015 by DarrellShropshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 #1 but I would not be angry at number two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The two options aren't even relateable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I MUS WRITE Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Option two -we get a talented DE and a franchise type running back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 #2 because Ray is gonna bust.#1 if it's any of the other top 4 DEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 #2 because Ray is gonna bust.#1 if it's any of the other top 4 DEs.Agree to disagree. I see ray as a Freeney clone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 #1 but I don't want Randall Option #2 would be a misuse of resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am assuming its 1st , 2nd, 3rd round picks?So I would take #1 cos TE in the 3rd would be stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 #1 but I don't want Randall Option #2 would be a misuse of resourcesExactly. Wanted to use option 2 as a template to show the Gurley fanboys, that the pass rush would be very hard to fix if we don't use that first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 1. Todd Gurley2. Nate Orchard3. Lorenzo Mauldin1. Todd Gurley2. Hau'Oli Kikaha3. ZaDarius Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am assuming its 1st , 2nd, 3rd round picks?So I would take #1 cos TE in the 3rd would be stupidOn the contrary, Warford reminds me a lot of a young Crumpler. Reliable hands, phenomenal blocker in the run game (blocking TEs are huge in the outside ZBS), and can even stretch the field frequently. Would be a great 3rd, with Yeldon, Cobb, or Johnson in the 4th.(whoever makes it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Exactly. Wanted to use option 2 as a template to show the Gurley fanboys, that the pass rush would be very hard to fix if we don't use that first.I get the temptation with taking Gurley and if we did I would hope we traded back into the first to get Orchard. But the only way I'm doing it is if Ray is gone. Running backs highly undervalued but I'm concerned with Gurley's durability going forward. And given the wholes on our roster I'd take a guy like Ray who has the potential to be a top 5 pass rusher imo over a top 5 RB. Not to mention that their are a couple guys that give you top ten production at the RB position in this draft Edited April 21, 2015 by atlGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Neither....1)Shane Ray2)Preston Smith3)Clive Walford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Neither....1)Shane Ray2)Preston Smith3)Clive WalfordI just don't see us not addressing CB or FS within the first 3 rounds. Edited April 21, 2015 by DarrellShropshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I just don't see us not addressing CB or FS within the first 3 rounds. I wouldnt' be so sure about that. Byron Maxwell was taken in the sixth sherman in the 5th i think Quinn takes the seattle approach to the secondary. Edited April 21, 2015 by atlGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I wouldnt' be so sure about that. Byron Maxwell was taken in the sixth sherman in the 5th i think Quinn takes the seattle approach to the secondary. Quinn was not the one drafting those DBs either. He was not even on the organization when they were drafted. He was there when Earl Thomas was taken in the 1st, I believe. Seattle also had depth and veteran starters at CB when they brought in Sherman and Maxwell. They did not expect them to turn out the way they did. They just wanted depth and youth behind the starters. We are VERY shaky at CB. We have Tru, Alf, Phillip Adams, and that's about it. At FS we have southward and Godfrey. We could move Southward to CB, thus needing to draft a FS early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Quinn was not the one drafting those DBs either. He was not even on the organization when they were drafted. He was there when Earl Thomas was taken in the 1st, I believe. Seattle also had depth and veteran starters at CB when they brought in Sherman and Maxwell. They did not expect them to turn out the way they did. They just wanted depth and youth behind the starters.We are VERY shaky at CB. We have Tru, Alf, Phillip Adams, and that's about it. At FS we have southward and Godfrey. We could move Southward to CB, thus needing to draft a FS early.True but there are only two guys that have the potential to fill that void in Pruitt and Randle( Not a fan of his body type). I just think we'd get better value adding to o- line in the second. If Southward converts to CB then you'd have another guy to fill that spot. I think we just may have to bite the bullet this year at FS and MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 True but there are only two guys that have the potential to fill that void in Pruitt and Randle( Not a fan of his body type). I just think we'd get better value adding to o- line in the second. If Southward converts to CB then you'd have another guy to fill that spot. I think we just may have to bite the bullet this year at FS and MLB.Worrilow will flourish under Quinn. He won't be used as a nickel LB like Nolan used. Quinn uses players to there strengths. MLB isn't even a worry. LG isn't glaring either. Between baker, Konz, and person, we can find a serviceable LG. Heck, baker could flourish at LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 LG isn't glaring either. Between baker, Konz, and person, we can find a serviceable LG. Heck, baker could flourish at LG.Keep shining a turd and guess what you get...a polished turd at LG...overpaid one at that (Baker). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Keep shining a turd and guess what you get...a polished turd at LG...overpaid one at that (Baker).Baker and Person would clearly be an upgrade over what we had last year. Konz improves by the switch to ZBS alone. It's what he ran in college, and garnered him a 2nd round selection. He hasn't ran zone in the NFL til this coming year. He could succeed, not to mention, another year in an NFL weight room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Why isn't Mauldin a serviceable pass rusher can be had in later rounds...Ray/Gregory/Dupree are. Yet, folks would sacrifice the 8th pick for that bunch. We can get that type of pass rushers later...potential/low ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Baker and Person would clearly be an upgrade over what we had last year. Konz improves by the switch to ZBS alone. It's what he ran in college, and garnered him a 2nd round selection. He hasn't ran zone in the NFL til this coming year. He could succeed, not to mention, another year in an NFL weight room.Upgrade over Blalock? I don't think so. You better draft his replacement early.Konz is a bust and trying to find a way for him to start is a bust move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloHawk Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I wouldnt' be so sure about that. Byron Maxwell was taken in the sixth sherman in the 5th i think Quinn takes the seattle approach to the secondary. It's possible, but I don't think it's very likely for two reasons. First, Dan Quinn is much better at coaching and developing DL players than secondary. I'm not saying he or his staff can't or won't develop your secondary, but Quinn is a DL guy first.And second, after our recent success more teams are trying to get bigger at cornerbacks, so it's harder to find a Richard Sherman or Byron Maxwell in the later rounds now than 3 or 4 years ago.Quinn was not the one drafting those DBs either. He was not even on the organization when they were drafted. He was there when Earl Thomas was taken in the 1st, I believe. Seattle also had depth and veteran starters at CB when they brought in Sherman and Maxwell. They did not expect them to turn out the way they did. They just wanted depth and youth behind the starters.Yes, Earl Thomas (1st) and Kam Chancellor (5th round) were drafted in 2010, when Quinn was our DL coach, so he didn't work with them close. Richard Sherman (5th) and Byron Maxwell (6th) were both drafted in 2011. At that time Quinn was a DC at Florida. When he came back to Seattle in 2013, ET, Kam and Sherm were all already All-Pro and Pro Bowl players. I won't say they didn't learn anything from Quinn over the last two seasons, but I think their development has more to do with Pete Carroll and Kris Richard (I don't know the exact impact of your new DB coach Marquand Manuel, who was assistant DB coach with us, but he learned from both Carroll and Richard, so this can only be a good thing). I can give Quinn a bit of credit for Maxwell though, because he got a starter role after injury and then suspension of Brandon Browner in last 5 games of 2013 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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