g-dawg Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 5. I think if I were the Giants at No. 9, I’d take Trae Waynes over Brandon Scherff. Rare cornerbacks—and the 6-1, sub-4.4-in-the-40 Waynes is potentially quite rare—are harder to find than very good offensive line prospects. Pro Football Focushas Waynes with problems on change of direction, which would be a issue with a cornerback, so it’ll be interesting to see how teams factor that in—if they agree—as the first round approaches.^^^^I have not thought about Trae Waynes for even a second leading up to reading this article a few moments ago......However, if Falcons are working out all of these corners, why not this one? However, it does seem we are only working out late 1st rd and later CBs. Peter King is right about one thing though - great corners w/ size are very rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 We can't go CB at 8.... Can we? I'd be way more upset with that than going Gurley... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm just not a fan of Waynes. Don't think his ceiling is that much higher than Alford's despite group think around here thinking Alford is garbage. Definitely don't think he's worth the #8 pick. Would rather take Rollins at #42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't like Waynes much so I'd dislike it, but someone good will slip into the second. At that point you have to start thinking hard. Have mentioned it before but Landon Collins there or in a trade down wouldn't bother me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Only one corner worth a top 10 pick imo.. Tru's boy Peters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I don't like Waynes much so I'd dislike it, but someone good will slip into the second. At that point you have to start thinking hard. Have mentioned it before but Landon Collins there or in a trade down wouldn't bother me at all.I have not even scouted Waynes - that is how far off my radar he has been. If Waynes was Darrelle Revis, Champ Bailey, Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson he would be worth the pick - alas, I don't think he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Trae Waynes shouldn't be a top 10 player in the draft. There's better options at his position then him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I could see us going Waynes or Collins. Seattle and Kansas City had great luck grabbing later round pass rushers. I can see a Nate Orchard in the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think trading up from the second to try and get Peters would be ideal for me, I like Waynes, just not enough to take him at 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 not top 8 CBs ..... CB is a second round option ... not a 8th overall option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Don't like Waynes or Peters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Had him in a mock...folks really hated it...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla1985 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 We can't go CB at 8.... Can we? I'd be way more upset with that than going Gurley... I'd be piss. Good lord we double dipped at CB just 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If we go CB at 8 i'm going ham on this MB. 2013 draft we spend a 1st and 3rd on Tru and a 2nd on Alford. Which already makes me mad every time i even think about it. Our first 3 picks on 2 CB's. D.U.M.B. move Dimitroff. My least favorite move this franchise has probably ever made. If Quinn is even halfway decent of a coach he will be able to coach up Alford or Southward to be a capable starter opposite Trufant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wasn't Richard Sherman a fifth round pick? Hidden gems to be found in the later rounds if you have good scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Wasn't Richard Sherman a fifth round pick? Hidden gems to be found in the later rounds if you have good scouting.Apparently, that's been part of our problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Apparently, that's been part of our problem.LOL!!! True... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 If we go CB at 8 i'm going ham on this MB. 2013 draft we spend a 1st and 3rd on Tru and a 2nd on Alford. Which already makes me mad every time i even think about it. Our first 3 picks on 2 CB's. D.U.M.B. move Dimitroff. My least favorite move this franchise has probably ever made. If Quinn is even halfway decent of a coach he will be able to coach up Alford or Southward to be a capable starter opposite Trufant. Julio trade was my least fav move, this team lost it's focus ever since. Not Julio's fault, he's great, but based on your take (3 picks for 2 Cbs) we used 5 for 1 WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Julio trade was my least fav move, this team lost it's focus ever since. Not Julio's fault, he's great, but based on your take (3 picks for 2 Cbs) we used 5 for 1 WRDimitroff should have been fired for making this move alone. That's FIVE players we cannot ever get back--and everyone wonders why we have no depth on this team. Now that I think about it, if we had those five picks Dimitroff probably would have drafted more Montana players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Dimitroff should have been fired for making this move alone. That's FIVE players we cannot ever get back--and everyone wonders why we have no depth on this team. Now that I think about it, if we had those five picks Dimitroff probably would have drafted more Montana players. If u think about it this really is the best strategy for dummy trough...he only succeeds when making no-brainer picks, so trading up for obvious talent is really the only viable option. Once he's beyond the 2nd round, drawing names out of a hat would probably net us better players than his "talent evaluation". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanfranfalcon Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) I have not even scouted Waynes - that is how far off my radar he has been. If Waynes was Darrelle Revis, Champ Bailey, Richard Sherman or Patrick Peterson he would be worth the pick - alas, I don't think he is.Sherman was an after thought tho...no one projected he'd be as good as he turned out to be...and you still can't put him on an island like Revis. over the top help will always be needed...but back to Falcons...i listened to Quinn on 92.9 today and CB was second word outta his mouth after edge rusher. after that, he said some people won't be playin' in the same position as last year. and i say again, Southward will be the starting RCB unless he just stinks it up in camp... Edited April 21, 2015 by sanfranfalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm just not a fan of Waynes. Don't think his ceiling is that much higher than Alford's despite group think around here thinking Alford is garbage. Definitely don't think he's worth the #8 pick. Would rather take Rollins at #42Don't be surprised if Southward, Adams or some rook take his job this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) 5. I think if I were the Giants at No. 9, Id take Trae Waynes over Brandon Scherff. Rare cornerbacksand the 6-1, sub-4.4-in-the-40 Waynes is potentially quite rareare harder to find than very good offensive line prospects. Pro Football Focushas Waynes with problems on change of direction, which would be a issue with a cornerback, so itll be interesting to see how teams factor that inif they agreeas the first round approaches.^^^^I have not thought about Trae Waynes for even a second leading up to reading this article a few moments ago......However, if Falcons are working out all of these corners, why not this one? However, it does seem we are only working out late 1st rd and later CBs. Peter King is right about one thing though - great corners w/ size are very rare. I think we will have the option of trading back if choose to. But if our desired pass rusher isn't there I'd no problem taking Wayens ,La'el Collins, or Scherff. Edited April 21, 2015 by atlGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm pretty confident a CB goes top 10. Just not sure if it's a lock to be Waynes... There are always surprises. On reflection Tru should've been the top corner taken his year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUB Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Our top pick is safety or oline and that doesn't mean at 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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