I Even Bleed Red Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Falcons get burned by early edge-rusher runThe skinny: The Falcons have a screaming need for a pass rusher, and it appears they're in position to get a very promising one with the eighth overall pick. What if that appearance turns out to be deceiving, though? If Dante Fowler, Shane Ray and Vic Beasley go No. 3, 5 and 6, respectively, before theBears surprise everyone a bit and take Bud Dupreeat No. 7, suddenly the Falcons would be faced with a nightmarish choice. Do they take Randy Gregory, who failed an NFL Scouting Combine drug test, at No. 8 or pass and likely miss out on the top edge rushers?http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000485844/article/five-nightmare-scenarios-for-teams-picking-in-round-1-of-draft?campaign=Facebook_writers_davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Quinn would go Collins. Orchard in the second. My guess anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) This scenario would leave Cooper, Williams, or Mariotta still on the board at 8. Teams would be calling the Falcons for a trade down if this was to happen. Edited April 19, 2015 by FentayeJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdsDirtyWords Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Oh no we end up with Randy Gregory who was a top 5 pick by most before a failed drug test? HOW WILL WE EVER MOVE ON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Scherff or Gurley if you can't trade back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Quinn would go Collins. Orchard in the second. My guess anyway.I kinda think that's a real possibility..were dreadful thin at Safety to start with...I'd be great with that as first two rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 There's ALWAYS an option at 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I kinda think that's a real possibility..were dreadful thin at Safety to start with...I'd be great with that as first two roundsAre we really? I think it's obvious our opinions aren't in line with Quinn and the coaches. Most thought Kroy should be gone and didn't see the value in bringing him back. We've got Moore, Ish, Godfrey and Southward. That's not thin. That's pretty standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Are we really? I think it's obvious our opinions aren't in line with Quinn and the coaches. Most thought Kroy should be gone and didn't see the value in bringing him back. We've got Moore, Ish, Godfrey and Southward. That's not thin. That's pretty standard.You calling ish, Godfrey and southward sure things? Southward may even become a cb. And, Moore is expensive and can't stay on the field. I see a constantly injured expensive starter and 3 unknowns..but obviously I ain't Quinn lolAnd training camp hasn't come yet. Some of these guys including Kroy could be gone.Which btw if Kroy and our DEs are so good, why the clamor for a top shelf edge rusher? Let me rephrase this statement--got to have one at 8 stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I kinda think that's a real possibility..were dreadful thin at Safety to start with...I'd be great with that as first two roundsTaking Collins at 8 would be a huge mistake. He's not a elite prospect at all. Also projects more as a SS and a FS. I'd have no problem taking Gregory at 8 even if Ray and Dupree are on the board. Edited April 19, 2015 by Jsid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Taking Collins at 8 would be a huge mistake. He's not a elite prospect at all. Also projects more as a SS and a FS. I'd have no problem taking Gregory at 8 even if Ray and Dupree are on the board.You'd take Gregory over Collins? Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 You calling ish, Godfrey and southward sure things? Southward may even become a cb. And, Moore is expensive and can't stay on the field.I see a constantly injured expensive starter and 3 unknowns..but obviously I ain't Quinn lolAnd training camp hasn't come yet. Some of these guys including Kroy could be gone.Which btw if Kroy and our DEs are so good, why the clamor for a top shelf edge rusher? Let me rephrase this statement--got to have one at 8 stuff?Doubt Southward and Godfrey are getting cut so it doesn't really matter how I feel about them. Ish is a solid guy. Allowed a passer rating of 87.5 over the second half of the season. That's the equivalent of Kyle Orton. So, no, we aren't terribly thin right now. Southward isn't a corner until we replace him at safety. Just because Quinn said he was going to take a look at him at CB doesn't mean he's moving. Moore isn't getting cut. "I see a constantly injured expensive starter and 3 unknowns" Is more of what you should have said. We aren't thin. We just aren't solidified, which I can fully agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 "Gurlie to Atlantie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tootie Quivers Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 In that scenario I see either Kevin White, Amari Cooper, or Marcus Mariotta on the board. We are in a great spot to trade down. This scenario is highly unlikely, but would put us in a great spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Falcon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Trade back and hope for Eli Harold, take Scherff and get a stud at either RT or LG, or take Landon Collins.Pretty Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Well, I'm taking Leonard Williams and I'm ecstatic about it...take Eli Harold/Nate Orchard in the 2nd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Oh no we end up with Randy Gregory who was a top 5 pick by most before a failed drug test? HOW WILL WE EVER MOVE ONGregory's problem likely isn't as simple as weed. Not going into it again, but there is an unconfirmed report that he needs the marijuana to control an anxiety disorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Quinn would go Collins. Orchard in the second. My guess anyway.You beter mean La'el, because no Safety taken in the top ten has panned out in at least twennty years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasfalconfan Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) In this scenario most likely Williams or mariota go 2 and cooper white go 4 this leaves two of either white, or cooper and either mariota and Williams but let's be real if mariota goes 2 williams goes to one of those pass rush teams so for this to work we have a wr or mariota to choose from or trade down Cleveland would gladly give us 12 and 77 for mariota or white/cooper. to be honest Though in this scenario we could auction the pick between Cleveland, San diego, and Philly sell to the highest bidder. So in reality this could be the best thing that happens to us Edited April 19, 2015 by texasfalconfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 We were reported to have tried to get Dee Ford and DeMarcus Lawrence last season. Ford wasn't going to happen but Lawrence was possible until the Cowboys, knowing we were desperate for the last decent rusher, traded in front of us and took him. If everybody knows your fallback option, you are susceptible to being stymied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Doubt Southward and Godfrey are getting cut so it doesn't really matter how I feel about them. Ish is a solid guy. Allowed a passer rating of 87.5 over the second half of the season. That's the equivalent of Kyle Orton. So, no, we aren't terribly thin right now. Southward isn't a corner until we replace him at safety. Just because Quinn said he was going to take a look at him at CB doesn't mean he's moving. Moore isn't getting cut. "I see a constantly injured expensive starter and 3 unknowns" Is more of what you should have said. We aren't thin. We just aren't solidified, which I can fully agree with.Lol I'll go with your revised statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 We were reported to have tried to get Dee Ford and DeMarcus Lawrence last season. Ford wasn't going to happen but Lawrence was possible until the Cowboys, knowing we were desperate for the last decent rusher, traded in front of us and took him. If everybody knows your fallback option, you are susceptible to being stymied.That could very well happen again this year IF we are unable to get a solid pass rusher at #8...if we can't get pass rusher at than several teams would assume that we would be looking at one with #42....same thing could happen again...Fans would go nuts if we traded up from #42 for a "2nd tier" pass rusher...but that might be something the Falcons have to do if they don't get one at #8...I'm really confident though that Beasley or Ray are going to be available at #8... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 We take Williams. That said this won't ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Diesel Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Falcons get burned by early edge-rusher runThe skinny: The Falcons have a screaming need for a pass rusher, and it appears they're in position to get a very promising one with the eighth overall pick. What if that appearance turns out to be deceiving, though? If Dante Fowler, Shane Ray and Vic Beasley go No. 3, 5 and 6, respectively, before theBears surprise everyone a bit and take Bud Dupreeat No. 7, suddenly the Falcons would be faced with a nightmarish choice. Do they take Randy Gregory, who failed an NFL Scouting Combine drug test, at No. 8 or pass and likely miss out on the top edge rushers?http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000485844/article/five-nightmare-scenarios-for-teams-picking-in-round-1-of-draft?campaign=Facebook_writers_davisNot much of a nightmare scenario.We would simply trade down and get an extra pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caver50 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 This scenario would leave Cooper, Williams, or Mariotta still on the board at 8. Teams would be calling the Falcons for a trade down if this was to happen.I believe your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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