Dr_truth189 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Watching this video, you can see why I am terrified of drafting Dupree at 8 overall. Yes, the guy who does the breakdown just gushes over his physical tools, but not me. Everyone keeps talking about this word "if." As in, he will be great IF he can get his technique right. I'm not saying he can't learn how to use his hands correctly, but the question has to be asked about why he hasn't learn yet. I can't imagine his coaches are so bad that they can't teach a simple rip or swim move. Dan Quinn may know how to play people to their strengths, but if this guy doesn't learn how to use his hands, his stint in the NFL will be short lived. And people want to draft him at #8 overall? There's no place for projects in the Top 10 that aren't QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.U.N.n.G.U.N.2 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 All of these guys have a learning curve. Dupree will do fine if selected. I think he spent most of his assignments in coverage anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Aldon Smith was a bit of a project as well, which was why he didn't start at all during his rookie year and still managed to get 14 sacks.He was drafted 7th overall in 2011.If the Falcons believe that they can maximize Dupree's potential, then I wouldn't say that taking him at 8 is really a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Biggest concerns:Short armsInconsistencyQuickness, not speed (3 cone and short shuttle)TechniqueActive SEC sack leader, and wasn't even using good technique. The true boom or bust edge rusher. Edited April 16, 2015 by DarrellShropshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Aldon Smith was a bit of a project as well, which was why he didn't start at all during his rookie year and still managed to get 14 sacks.He was drafted 7th overall in 2011.If the Falcons believe that they can maximize Dupree's potential, then I wouldn't say that taking him at 8 is really a reach.Aldon had freakish length to help disengage from blockers and create space. Dupree has t-Rex arms. Edited April 16, 2015 by DarrellShropshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Aldon had freakish length to help disengage from blockers and create space.True, but you don't have to be freakishly long disengage from blockers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 True, but you don't have to be freakishly long disengage from blockers.True, but it sure helps when you have zero technique and are very raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Watching this video, you can see why I am terrified of drafting Dupree at 8 overall. Yes, the guy who does the breakdown just gushes over his physical tools, but not me. Everyone keeps talking about this word "if." As in, he will be great IF he can get his technique right. I'm not saying he can't learn how to use his hands correctly, but the question has to be asked about why he hasn't learn yet. I can't imagine his coaches are so bad that they can't teach a simple rip or swim move. Dan Quinn may know how to play people to their strengths, but if this guy doesn't learn how to use his hands, his stint in the NFL will be short lived. And people want to draft him at #8 overall? There's no place for projects in the Top 10 that aren't QBs. Terrified?Dupree is a raw talent who would be a project ala Hageman, so yes, he's a reach at pick 8. But nobody's a guarantee, and we have to trust what Quinn wants to do.The guy I'm 'terrified' of the most is Gregory , in that he would not be a project and has so much more athletically what I think Quinn's looking for in a edge rusher. Terrified he'll be a knucklehead bust if we grab him, terrified we'll pass on him and he'll come back to haunt us (Aints or whoever) Edited April 16, 2015 by Vandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 did look up Robert Quinn's arms which were 34" vs. Dupree's 32 5/8". just wanted to see since this guy compared Quinn to Dupree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellShropshire Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) did look up Robert Quinn's arms which were 34" vs. Dupree's 32 5/8". just wanted to see since this guy compared Quinn to Dupree.That is quite a big difference for arm length. Crazy that goodman has 37 inch arms. Edited April 16, 2015 by DarrellShropshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) He got pancaked once in that game, and didn't get to the qb unless they blitzed. HUGE concerns for me, cause he'll play against better talent in the pros. Edited April 16, 2015 by osiruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That is quite a big difference for arm length. Crazy that goodman has 37 inch arms.we need to cut about 4 inches off Goodman's arms and give two inches each to Dupree and Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Only after we draft one of them tho.Then we could just give em all four inches!! Hehe Edited April 16, 2015 by Atlfanstckndenver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEmbrace_life Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That is quite a big difference for arm length. Crazy that goodman has 37 inch arms.I was just looking at Goodman the other day. I think he could be a solid rotational guy more so than Maponga next year. His biggest issue is speed, burst, and quickness off the snap. He has power though, and moves OL at will. I watched he and Hageman side by side on one play and he moved two guys backwards while Hageman bounced from one blocker to another. Hageman is definitely the better player between the two, but Goodman clearly has power. He could be impactful as an edge setter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Aldon Smith was a bit of a project as well, which was why he didn't start at all during his rookie year and still managed to get 14 sacks.He was drafted 7th overall in 2011.If the Falcons believe that they can maximize Dupree's potential, then I wouldn't say that taking him at 8 is really a reach.IIRC Aldon's strength was as a pass rusher but he sucked against the run. Dupree isn't nearly as good of a pass rusher coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Quinn is the best defensive mind in the history of football, everybody in world knows this. He will take Hageman, Dupree, and Starr and turn them into all stars./green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintez Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Aldon had freakish length to help disengage from blockers and create space. Dupree has t-Rex arms.No, Aldon had Justin Smith...Bud will have Hageman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Quinn is the best defensive mind in the history of football, everybody in world knows this. He will take Hageman, Dupree, and Starr and turn them into all stars./greenAnd Southward, kroy, maponga, worrilow, bartu, and alford. He's a miracle worker, I can't wait to see our starting defense make the all pro team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Watching this video, you can see why I am terrified of drafting Dupree at 8 overall. Yes, the guy who does the breakdown just gushes over his physical tools, but not me. Everyone keeps talking about this word "if." As in, he will be great IF he can get his technique right. I'm not saying he can't learn how to use his hands correctly, but the question has to be asked about why he hasn't learn yet. I can't imagine his coaches are so bad that they can't teach a simple rip or swim move. Dan Quinn may know how to play people to their strengths, but if this guy doesn't learn how to use his hands, his stint in the NFL will be short lived. And people want to draft him at #8 overall? There's no place for projects in the Top 10 that aren't QBs. its simple he hasn't learn how to use his hands because he hasn't had to and even at the next level he'll probably still could get by on athleticism and be productive. athletically he as good to come out in the last decade he's right there with Mario Williams,clowney and JJ watt and even then he was still productive in collegenot to mention every draft prospect has stuff to work on Ray pretty much played DE not what the leo would be and if he struggled he would have to hopefully transition to play the sam and the same pretty much applies to Beasley as well. Beasley is the most pro ready but has the least upside as his upside is pretty much as an OLBer rusher but when looking a Quinns defense what makes bennett so good is his ability to play inside which quinn says it makes it near impossible to block himDupree,Folwer and Williams all could play the leo or the role Bennett plays in quinns D Gregory would start off as a Leo but could develop into to that given he size and length and has the highest upside of all of them has they all have great first steps but gregory's is on a different level but he's a super boom or bust type guy.i think Dupree would be a solid pick and would be a force against the run right off the bat but he may struggle at times as a rusher when he goes against a top tackle thats athletic luckly there isn't a ton of those guys around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 did look up Robert Quinn's arms which were 34" vs. Dupree's 32 5/8". just wanted to see since this guy compared Quinn to Dupree.Robert Quinn as an athlete isn't on Duprees level though so there really no comparison if they developed to there talent Dupree is a better pro prospect but whos to say he developsi think Duprees best comparison is Michael Bennett because thats the likely role Quinn would use him in given his size length and athleticism Durpree and Hageman should become two of the better Dlmen in the league in quinns defense i think to many people overlook the most valuable position in Quinns defense it was the leo position it was whatever he called Bennett which he was really just a guy who could play any position on the DL so talent wise upside wise and value wise Dupree outside of Williams and flower is the pick even over Ray and beasley because there role is limited because of there size and skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Dupree is picking up a lot of steam. I thought at the beginning of the draft process he may be one of those guys we can trade up from the 2nd round into the late 1st and grab him. Now he's possibly gone with the 5th overall pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Good, that means beasley falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Good, that means beasley falls.yea but don't be shocked if they pass on beasley either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If we pass on beasley that means we're taking Trae waynes or gregory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Dupree is gonna bust. Any team that takes him in the top 20 is gonna get burnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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