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Mark and Randy interviewed Mike Mayock this morning.

link to podcast: http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/audio/marc-randy/

I will summarize for you below the stuff Mayock said in response to questions asked:

  • Falcons need an edge rusher at #8
  • Dante Fowler the best edge rusher
  • Randy Gregory has top 5 talent (in the draft)
  • Doubts Falcons will go Randy Gregory because of character concerns
  • Mayock said Randy Gregory is ultimate boom-or-bust - he would not take him if he was GM
  • Vic Beasley and Shane Ray would have to learn to play OLB on 1st/2nd down as neither are stout enough otherwise. Both are more "specialty" players as passrushers.
  • Bud Dupree probably fits what Dan Quinn wants to do on defense (better than Beasley/Ray). talented player
  • In 2nd round, at #42 - Falcons likely look to go Offensive Line or Cornerback
  • When asked about BPA vs. Defense, Mayock brought up Vikes/Zimmer and drafting of Anthony Barr. Vikes went from #31 defense to #11.
  • Thinks Falcons can get a good RB in 3rd or 4th round - said Falcons should wait until those rounds to get a RB.
  • Todd Gurley not worth a team trading into the top 10.
  • Likes Dan Quinn a lot
  • Quinn will bring tremendous energy and competition to the Falcons
  • likes Big/Strong players
  • Shanahan is smart w/ offensive weapons and should do well w/ Matt Ryan.
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That #42 pick is the true wild card of this draft. We can literally go BPA right there and not go wrong. A first round talent will be there. I hope we can trade back with the Browns to #12 and pick up another pick though.

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I know everyone points to Bruce Irvin because he is kind of a smaller-frame player (to equate to Beasley/Ray) - but generally the Seahawks had bigger/stronger type players that are versatile. I am not predicting we will draft Dupree, but I believe the Falcons interest in him is genuine - I also believe he is higher on NFL draft boards than he is on TATF messageboard.

If Falcons don't take him at #8, I doubt he drops past the Saints at #13. People here that say Dupree is a "2nd round talent" or will go from #20-32 - I just don't see that at all.

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That #42 pick is the true wild card of this draft. We can literally go BPA right there and not go wrong. A first round talent will be there. I hope we can trade back with the Browns to #12 and pick up another pick though.

agreed. I would not be surprised if almost none of us predict accurately who the Falcons will take at #42. Right now, my money would be on a CB/FS type if there is value there when we are on the clock - but who knows?

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I know everyone points to Bruce Irvin because he is kind of a smaller-frame player (to equate to Beasley/Ray) - but generally the Seahawks had bigger/stronger type players that are versatile. I am not predicting we will draft Dupree, but I believe the Falcons interest in him is genuine - I also believe he is higher on NFL draft boards than he is on TATF messageboard.

If Falcons don't take him at #8, I doubt he drops past the Saints at #13.

I can agree with this. I think with some proper coaching on pass rushing technique, he could really flourish more than anyone in this class. He has a nasty jump off the ball with solid strength and athleticism that is off the charts. Could be a great pick up.
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I know everyone points to Bruce Irvin because he is kind of a smaller-frame player (to equate to Beasley/Ray) - but generally the Seahawks had bigger/stronger type players that are versatile. I am not predicting we will draft Dupree, but I believe the Falcons interest in him is genuine - I also believe he is higher on NFL draft boards than he is on TATF messageboard.

If Falcons don't take him at #8, I doubt he drops past the Saints at #13. People here that say Dupree is a "2nd round talent" or will go from #20-32 - I just don't see that at all.

That's a kind way to say "there are some clueless mofos on TATF".

Many can't see Dupree. The same clowns can't see Fowler. Buddy is the best all around edge rusher in the draft.

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I can agree with this. I think with some proper coaching on pass rushing technique, he could really flourish more than anyone in this class. He has a nasty jump off the ball with solid strength and athleticism that is off the charts. Could be a great pick up.

not that it matters at all (it doesn't), but like Beasley, Bud Dupree is from Georgia - how did UGA let these guys get away? I guess the same way half of Auburn's players are from Georgia.

Beasley from Adairsville, GA

Dupree from Irwinton, GA

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I think Mayock is probably missing the fact that the LEO isn't going to be expected to be anything but a pass rusher and occasional drop back guy. The LEO isn't usually setting the edge, as I understand it. That seems to make Beasley or Ray a near perfect fit.

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Well we have spent some time with Dupree I imagine they are trying to guage if he will take to the position and be the player they need there. Looking more like Dupree may be the guy at 8 I dont have a problem with it because I think he is one of the best players in the draft class but if I could get him a little later I would shop for a trade partner but they may deem him worth going ahead and taking at 8.

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I think Mayock is probably missing the fact that the LEO isn't going to be expected to be anything but a pass rusher and occasional drop back guy. The LEO isn't usually setting the edge, as I understand it. That seems to make Beasley or Ray a near perfect fit.

I think Mayock probably understands the Seattle defense better than you or me. no offense.

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I think Mayock is probably missing the fact that the LEO isn't going to be expected to be anything but a pass rusher and occasional drop back guy. The LEO isn't usually setting the edge, as I understand it. That seems to make Beasley or Ray a near perfect fit.

If a play is run toward the LEO he better set the edge or it's to the second level and beyond.

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Well we have spent some time with Dupree I imagine they are trying to guage if he will take to the position and be the player they need there. Looking more like Dupree may be the guy at 8 I dont have a problem with it because I think he is one of the best players in the draft class but if I could get him a little later I would shop for a trade partner but they may deem him worth going ahead and taking at 8.

yeah, my last mock I had us trading down to #12 (w/ Cleveland picking up early 3rd) and selecting Dupree. But if the Falcons are really in love w/ him, they probably would not risk a trade down. I would love to get another top 100 pick but, moreso, want the Falcons to get their top guy (whoever that is).

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We started our rebuild of our trenches last season, that needs to continue. I definitely want Danny Shelton with our first, or a similar O or D lineman in the 2nd. Make our O line better, our run game is better. Make our D line better, our DBs will be better. IF we go after WR or CB in the first or second, our Falcons had better be sure the player(s) we get are just that special. I am concerned that our return to the ZBS will convince TD that we can find good O linemen in the late rounds of the draft. It doesn't work that way.

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We started our rebuild of our trenches last season, that needs to continue. I definitely want Danny Shelton with our first, or a similar O or D lineman in the 2nd. Make our O line better, our run game is better. Make our D line better, our DBs will be better. IF we go after WR or CB in the first or second, our Falcons had better be sure the player(s) we get are just that special. I am concerned that our return to the ZBS will convince TD that we can find good O linemen in the late rounds of the draft. It doesn't work that way.

after Hageman, Soliai and Tyson Jackson last year - and then adding a traditional big in Clayborn - I don't see Danny Shelton AT ALL. Not unless we are cutting some of those guys above.

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That's a kind way to say "there are some clueless mofos on TATF".

Many can't see Dupree. The same clowns can't see Fowler. Buddy is the best all around edge rusher in the draft.

Most fans are so locked in on Beasley that they cant see any other edge guys. I think both Fowler and Dupree offers the versitility DQ looks for.
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I think Mayock is probably missing the fact that the LEO isn't going to be expected to be anything but a pass rusher and occasional drop back guy. The LEO isn't usually setting the edge, as I understand it. That seems to make Beasley or Ray a near perfect fit.

ok, but what happens when the offense decides to run the ball?

leo or not, you still gotta be able to stop the run when run presents itself. Otherwise your just a liability.

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I think Mayock is probably missing the fact that the LEO isn't going to be expected to be anything but a pass rusher and occasional drop back guy. The LEO isn't usually setting the edge, as I understand it. That seems to make Beasley or Ray a near perfect fit.

People have some what of a misconception of the position around here.

Here is a excerpt from a interview with O'Brien Schofield posted here. http://www.thefalcoh...sition-and-more

"You have to rush in unison, and when you're able to do that, I mean, you're able to create so much pressure that it gets to the point it doesn't matter who gets the sack, you know? Because we all celebrate. We all have success when someone gets a sack," Schofield said. "So if we're able to get that mindset, and it doesn't matter who gets the sack, but it's more that we're all working together and we're all putting pressure on the quarterback, and whoever gets there, gets there. You know? And you have to be selfless like that to be on a great defense, because everyone's not going to get the big stats."

Versatility isn't just emphasized in Quinn's defense, it's required. Schofield was expected to be versatile and flexible immediately upon arriving in Seattle. "I was running two positions from the first day I got to Seattle, and it was just something that -- it was kind of difficult at first, but once I understood the scheme and the overall picture of what we were trying to accomplish, man, it became really easy," Schofield said. "And I think this year, I literally rushed -- or played every position on the d-line, from nose, to tackle, to three-technique, to end, you know? And the LEO backer, [and] played a little bit of SAM. So for me, I'm very, very familiar with this defense. I did a lot of studying, and it's really helped me."

The LEO linebacker is a pretty important part of the 4-3 under defense. Schofield, having played in that position some, shared his perspective on that role. "I think the LEO backer is basically a hybrid defensive end. You have to be pretty athletic as far as being able to play the six-technique pretty strong on the run," Schofield said. "It's a lot of times where, as in blitz packages, where you'll have to drop in coverage and do some coverage things, even in the nickel package, and also just be able to pull around in the pass rush, because the LEO in the nickel package does a lot of standing up rushing, rushing outside, rushing inside, drops in coverage. So you've got to kind of be the all-purpose football player to play that position."

Actually I think Dupree would easily be the most gifted and talented player that Quinn has had to work with at the position if we drafted him. Out of all the guys mentioned around here he is easily the most complete player and the best fit at LEO. Yes he needs refinement and polish on his game but, they all do.He will be that player offenses are looking for everytime they line up because he causes so much chaos and just wrecks things.

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Don't trade up. That's all I don't want us to do.

Stay put if one of the premier guys falls. (Leonard Williams is too good to pass up) Beasley, Fowler.

If not, trade back. Grab Dupree or Ray or even Harold. Get an extra 2nd round pick. Get Marcus Peters. Get best guard available. Get Perryman. Get RB. Get WR.

Bam

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People have some what of a misconception of the position around here.

Here is a excerpt from a interview with O'Brien Schofield posted here. http://www.thefalcoh...sition-and-more

"You have to rush in unison, and when you're able to do that, I mean, you're able to create so much pressure that it gets to the point it doesn't matter who gets the sack, you know? Because we all celebrate. We all have success when someone gets a sack," Schofield said. "So if we're able to get that mindset, and it doesn't matter who gets the sack, but it's more that we're all working together and we're all putting pressure on the quarterback, and whoever gets there, gets there. You know? And you have to be selfless like that to be on a great defense, because everyone's not going to get the big stats."

Versatility isn't just emphasized in Quinn's defense, it's required. Schofield was expected to be versatile and flexible immediately upon arriving in Seattle. "I was running two positions from the first day I got to Seattle, and it was just something that -- it was kind of difficult at first, but once I understood the scheme and the overall picture of what we were trying to accomplish, man, it became really easy," Schofield said. "And I think this year, I literally rushed -- or played every position on the d-line, from nose, to tackle, to three-technique, to end, you know? And the LEO backer, [and] played a little bit of SAM. So for me, I'm very, very familiar with this defense. I did a lot of studying, and it's really helped me."

The LEO linebacker is a pretty important part of the 4-3 under defense. Schofield, having played in that position some, shared his perspective on that role. "I think the LEO backer is basically a hybrid defensive end. You have to be pretty athletic as far as being able to play the six-technique pretty strong on the run," Schofield said. "It's a lot of times where, as in blitz packages, where you'll have to drop in coverage and do some coverage things, even in the nickel package, and also just be able to pull around in the pass rush, because the LEO in the nickel package does a lot of standing up rushing, rushing outside, rushing inside, drops in coverage. So you've got to kind of be the all-purpose football player to play that position."

Actually I think Dupree would easily be the most gifted and talented player that Quinn has had to work with at the position if we drafted him. Out of all the guys mentioned around here he is easily the most complete player and the best fit at LEO. Yes he needs refinement and polish on his game but, they all do.He will be that player offenses are looking for everytime they line up because he causes so much chaos and just wrecks things.

good post. I think the LEO position has been thought of on this board as a "one-trick pony" type of position - who ONLY rushes the passer - this is straight from the horse's mouth - Schofield - who has actually played the position in Quinn's/Seattle's defense.

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