David Johnson Senior Bowl

[Francis York Morgan]

Sure it won't receive as much attention as Marpet's since there's much less available footage of him at Hobart, but figured some of you might enjoy it. Easier than watching the whole Senior Bowl, that's for sure. He got hit behind the line a lot but I really like how he looks when there's even a small crease. Talented dude.

It's every snap so there's a lot of play action or just him rolling out for a normie RB pass, pretty much him doing nothing, but I figured I should include it.

[Kayoh]

I really like David Johnson, but his stock is getting too high imo. He's going to end up getting drafted on Day 2 and it'll be too early for him. He's a poor man's Matt Forte.

I honestly hope we get one of the two RBs that everybody mislabels as a FB because they're white: Zach Zenner or Tyler Varga. Zenner has more physical upside but I like Varga's tape a bit more. They're both late day 3 projections and either one of them would be absolutely ideal for our situation.

[The O.D.B]

Thanks for the Vid FM, great job. Unfortunately, I ended up liking him less while watching this. However, like Kayoh I wasn't big on him for us just because his stock has rocketed past reasonable IMO. I still like him but, not as much as Buck Allen, Karlos Williams or T.J. Yeldon.

[Francis York Morgan]

Yeah, I wouldn't take him in the 2nd where a lot of people are projecting him to go, but using our 3rd on him wouldn't be terrible. But there'll probably be players like Xavier Cooper or one of the many great WR prospects who slipped. I just think he isn't there yet, so even using a 3rd carries some risk, but mostly reward since he's such a great receiver. In the 4th he's a steal, perfect spot. Doubt he drops near there. I do like him a lot. Sky high ceiling.

Curious @The O.D.B, why'd you wind up liking him less though? Pretty much every bad play had him getting hit behind the line, that Carl Davis/Danny Shelton/Henry Anderson combo was destroying the South team interior. Avoided it a couple times but it's hard when the DT is (literally) 3 yards in the backfield when you get a handoff. Only play I disliked was that hesitation at 3:07 but the rest I think he made the most of things otherwise.

Also, Carl Davis was the best DL that game. Yeah, over Shelton. Bar none. Just needs to get more consistent. So impressive.

[Kayoh]

Carl Davis is my #1 interior DL player, been saying it for months now.

1. Carl Davis (3-4 DE, 4-3 3-Tech, 4-3 1-Tech, Nickel NT, 3-4 NT)

2. Henry Anderson (3-4 DE, 4-3 3-Tech, Nickel NT)

3. Xavier Cooper (4-3 base end, 4-3 3-Tech)

4. Leonard Williams (3-4 DE, 4-3 1-Tech)

5. Grady Jarrett (4-3 1-Tech, 3-4 DE)

6. Marcus Hardison (4-3 base end, 4-3 3-Tech, 3-4 DE)

7. Eddie Goldman (3-4 NT, 4-3 1-Tech)

8. Jordan Phillips (3-4 NT, 4-3 1-Tech, 3-4 DE)

9. Arik Armstead (3-4 DE, 4-3 3-Tech, 4-3 1-Tech, 4-3 base end)

10. Gabe Wright (4-3 1-Tech, 4-3 3-Tech)

[vel]

Give me David Johnson and Matt Jones.

[The O.D.B]

Yeah, I wouldn't take him in the 2nd where a lot of people are projecting him to go, but using our 3rd on him wouldn't be terrible. But there'll probably be players like Xavier Cooper or one of the many great WR prospects who slipped. I just think he isn't there yet, so even using a 3rd carries some risk, but mostly reward since he's such a great receiver. In the 4th he's a steal, perfect spot. Doubt he drops near there. I do like him a lot. Sky high ceiling.

Curious @The O.D.B, why'd you wind up liking him less though? Pretty much every bad play had him getting hit behind the line, that Carl Davis/Danny Shelton/Henry Anderson combo was destroying the South team interior. Avoided it a couple times but it's hard when the DT is (literally) 3 yards in the backfield when you get a handoff. Only play I disliked was that hesitation at 3:07 but the rest I think he made the most of things otherwise.

Also, Carl Davis was the best DL that game. Yeah, over Shelton. Bar none. Just needs to get more consistent. So impressive.

I can't put my finger on it other than to say there was just nothing sudden about his plays. His highlight film from school showed some very good stuff. He did look good in traffic in this vid and strong but, his acceleration behind the line just looked meh. Freeman was my RB in the draft last year because of his behind the line acceleration and he didn't stop there. I have realized that bigger backs usually aren't that quick 0-60 so, there's that.

[vel]

I can't put my finger on it other than to say there was just nothing sudden about his plays. His highlight film from school showed some very good stuff. He did look good in traffic in this vid and strong but, his acceleration behind the line just looked meh. Freeman was my RB in the draft last year because of his behind the line acceleration and he didn't stop there. I have realized that bigger backs usually aren't that quick 0-60 so, there's that.

He actually reminds me of Steven Jackson in terms of running style. Not physicality, just style. They both kind of scoot and run upright. I get what you're saying though and that's part of my reservation. But he's so well rounded in terms of blocking and catching out of the backfield that even if he turns into a subpar pro runner, he's still got value in route running and blocking to play on third downs.

[The O.D.B]

He actually reminds me of Steven Jackson in terms of running style. Not physicality, just style. They both kind of scoot and run upright. I get what you're saying though and that's part of my reservation. But he's so well rounded in terms of blocking and catching out of the backfield that even if he turns into a subpar pro runner, he's still got value in route running and blocking to play on third downs.

I'd agree he has value and with the SJAX comparison (not young SJAX though, no way). I went back and watched some Buck and Karlos after this vid for direct comparison and they just appear so much faster to the line and both can be had at a better value and are around the same size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_AP6G4jlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp4z48CtCfU

[Francis York Morgan]

I mean...those are also highlights.

It's your opinion though, I respect it. Javorius Allen is a really interesting option imo. I like him.

[A-TowN.-]

Yeah David Johnson did really well at the SB. I'm starting to like him more and more. I think if he gains lower body strength, he could be really good. I'd take him in the third in a heart beat.

[Kayoh]

Yeah David Johnson did really well at the SB. I'm starting to like him more and more. I think if he gains lower body strength, he could be really good. I'd take him in the third in a heart beat.

I don't understand this mentality at all. Why would you want to draft a RB in the 3rd round when you can still get starters at more important positions like FS, ILB, or 3T? The value just isn't there. Give me a 3rd round starter at FS and a 7th round RB over a 3rd round RB and a 7th round FS any day of the week.

[Francis York Morgan]

I don't understand this mentality at all. Why would you want to draft a RB in the 3rd round when you can still get starters at more important positions like FS, ILB, or 3T? The value just isn't there. Give me a 3rd round starter at FS and a 7th round RB over a 3rd round RB and a 7th round FS any day of the week.

I don't see anyone I'd take as a starter in the third at FS or ILB, unless Rowe or Dawson or someone along those lines slips. If Xavier Cooper is there he could arguably start at DT, but doubt he would for us. Johnson's ability as a receiver (both route-running and hands) makes him more valuable than the traditional third down back, especially since he could easily start depending on the situation he got into and if he put on just a bit more lower body weight. Either way, he's capable of being an every down back. Don't think we target him at all but I definitely wouldn't mind, he's straight up dangerous.

[A-TowN.-]

I don't understand this mentality at all. Why would you want to draft a RB in the 3rd round when you can still get starters at more important positions like FS, ILB, or 3T? The value just isn't there. Give me a 3rd round starter at FS and a 7th round RB over a 3rd round RB and a 7th round FS any day of the week.

I highly doubt Jones, Rowe, Randall, or any of the other top FS candidates will be there. We may have to take one of those in the second instead. Same with ILB. We just have so many holes that really we can pick BPA after we select a passrusher in the first. We could also use a new FS, LG, RB, LB, WR, CB, and TE. We are going to have some tough decisions to make and if there happens to be a player like Tevin Coleman or David Johnson available in the third, I'd take them over the 5th best safety that's left on the board.

[Kayoh]

I highly doubt Jones, Rowe, Randall, or any of the other top FS candidates will be there. We may have to take one of those in the second instead. Same with ILB. We just have so many holes that really we can pick BPA after we select a passrusher in the first. We could also use a new FS, LG, RB, LB, WR, CB, and TE. We are going to have some tough decisions to make and if there happens to be a player like Tevin Coleman or David Johnson available in the third, I'd take them over the 5th best safety that's left on the board.

I think all three of the guys you listed have a shot at going in the 1st round. I'd put money on all three of them going in the top 50.

I'm looking at two guys: Adrian Amos and Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. I explained why I like Amos in my new mock draft thread, he should be around in the 4th. And I think IEO can be an Earl Thomas type single high FS and he should be available in the 3rd.