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[Falcon Man™]

Mayock is on the Mariota to Tampa train too...

What say you TB fans?

ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski was already on the record saying he wouldn’t pick Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston first overall.

Now, he’s saying he doesn’t think the Buccaneers will, either.

During an interview with CSN Philly Sports Talk, Jaworski said he thinks the Bucs are going to surprise everyone and take Oregon’s Marcus Mariota.

“The latest I’m hearing now from my sources around the league, who are pretty wired in, is that he’s going to go number one now to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,” Jaworski said, via PhillyMag.com. “Mariota’s stock, remember it was quiet for a while? And there’s a reason for that. There’s a lull every year until about 30 days before the draft. Now the coaches get involved. Prior to that, it’s the scouts, it’s the roadies that are filling out the paper work. Now the coaches get involved. Now team owners get involved. Now General Managers get involved. So you’re starting to see, in my opinion, Winston’s stock starting to slide a little bit and Mariota’s stock starting to go up a little bit.”

Perhaps that rise is on the recommendation of Eagles coach Chip Kelly, who is apparently talking up his former quarterback to others in the league.

“I’ll give you a little bit of information on how much Chip Kelly loves Marcus Mariota,” Jaworski said. “This is the time of year when everyone talks, and I talk to General Managers, I’ve talked to player personnel directors, and I’ve heard it from a couple or three people that have had conversations with Chip Kelly, and Chip Kelly said, ‘Marcus Mariota will win multiple Super Bowls in the National Football League.’

“Now, he didn’t say it was going to be in Philadelphia, but that’s how much he loves this guy, and a lot of people feel the same way, that Marcus Mariota is that good that you can win multiple Super Bowls with him as your quarterback.”

Of course, Jaworski is no stranger to taking a contrarian position, and he’s also not paid to be a reporter. But coupled with Mike Mayock’s about-face last week — and the fact the Bucs put it on their own website — it might be smoke that indicates a fire is about to be made with a bunch of mock drafts.

[End zone Jones]

Good God, plz let the Bucs pick Marcus... That will ease my mind a lot. Marcus has a lot to learn and develop. If they don't take Jaboo, they will be at the bottom AGAIN!!

[Falcon Man™]

Good God, plz let the Bucs pick Marcus... That will ease my mind a lot. Marcus has a lot to learn and develop. If they don't take Jaboo, they will be at the bottom AGAIN!!

The point is that knowledgeable members of the media are hearing rumors and have developed their own opinions that the Bucs may very well take Mariota. That says something about Mariota's abilities if you ask me. I think both will be quality QB's. The character issues are the main issues with Winston - even his lawyer has publicly said it. Manziel's off field issues (not to mention not performing on the field either) I think may have caused some hesitation in the Bucs organization. Probably not enough to sway them, I guess we won't know until the 30th...

[SaintsFanInLA]

I was honestly expecting to open this thread and talk about the horror movie about the killer shark. Was actually disappointed.

[End zone Jones]

The point is that knowledgeable members of the media are hearing rumors and have developed their own opinions that the Bucs may very well take Mariota. That says something about Mariota's abilities if you ask me. I think both will be quality QB's. The character issues are the main issues with Winston - even his lawyer has publicly said it. Manziel's off field issues (not to mention not performing on the field either) I think may have caused some hesitation in the Bucs organization. Probably not enough to sway them, I guess we won't know until the 30th...

It has everything to do with his off the field issues, not MM's abilities OVER Winston. We all know, who the more "pro ready" QB is. Winston is head and shoulders above MM as an all around QB. No denying that.

Did he have things happen off the field, that shouldn't have? Of course! Even Jameis had to recognize, that he had to mature. "I was trying to be "one of the guys".. I had to realize I couldn't be that.!"

All this **** about his past, is exactly that.... The past. This kid has grown and matured, in a huge way the past year and a half.

I'm all for the Bucs drafting Marcus, for 2 reasons.

1- I won't have to hate my dude Jaboo..

2- Guarantees the Bucs will be bottom dwellers, yet again.

If the Bucs want a true FRANCHISE QB, and a pure winner.... They draft Jameis... period.

[Falcon Man™]

It has everything to do with his off the field issues, not MM's abilities OVER Winston. We all know, who the more "pro ready" QB is. Winston is head and shoulders above MM as an all around QB. No denying that.

Did he have things happen off the field, that shouldn't have? Of course! Even Jameis had to recognize, that he had to mature. "I was trying to be "one of the guys".. I had to realize I couldn't be that.!"

All this **** about his past, is exactly that.... The past. This kid has grown and matured, in a huge way the past year and a half.

I'm all for the Bucs drafting Marcus, for 2 reasons.

1- I won't have to hate my dude Jaboo..

2- Guarantees the Bucs will be bottom dwellers, yet again.

If the Bucs want a true FRANCHISE QB, and a pure winner.... They draft Jameis... period.

I saw a QB crumble in the spotlight against a Mariota lead team. I would like to here and now claim Mariota will have a better NFL career than Winston. Bookmark if you want to. Winston staying home instead of attending the draft is a ploy. He is claiming, "This is who I am (my family)." I ain't buyin' it. Winston feels a sense of entitlement that was brought on by multiple outlets. That does not mean he should be acting as if - but that is exactly what he has done. Mariota works his tail off to have a great combine and he was leaps and bounds ahead of Winston in every category. Yes, Winston made all the throws but so did Mariota (not quite as good). Mariota is ready for the NFL. Maybe Winston is too, but as I stated Mariota will have the better career as long or short as it is...

[End zone Jones]

I saw a QB crumble in the spotlight against a Mariota lead team. I would like to here and now claim Mariota will have a better NFL career than Winston. Bookmark if you want to. Winston staying home instead of attending the draft is a ploy. He is claiming, "This is who I am (my family)." I ain't buyin' it. Winston feels a sense of entitlement that was brought on by multiple outlets. That does not mean he should be acting as if - but that is exactly what he has done. Mariota works his tail off to have a great combine and he was leaps and bounds ahead of Winston in every category. Yes, Winston made all the throws but so did Mariota (not quite as good). Mariota is ready for the NFL. Maybe Winston is too, but as I stated Mariota will have the better career as long or short as it is...

Oregons D was wayyyyyy better than the 'Noles that night, don't give Marcus all the credit. Jameis was pressing, as he was all season. He knew his defense couldn't contain the speed of Oregon. Therefore, he felt as if he had to make a play every time..

As far as the two. They really are two TOTAL different types of QB. The one that last in the NFL, is a more "pro style" QB.. Not a guy who took 2 snaps under center last year.

Marcus could have a decent career, depending on where he goes. He has the talent required, no doubt. I believe he will take a few years longer than Jameis to accomplish "major" things in the NFL.

Jameis has a football IQ, almost like no other. As far as breaking down film, and knowing what the defense is doing. He is also in a different stratosphere, as far as leadership. You can't coach that. Pocket awareness- Jameis, Pocket passing- Jameis, Accuracy- Jameis..

Come on bro, don't be senile. Just because you may not like him, don't act like he is no where close to Marcus... When he's actually head and shoulders above the other.

IF the "off the field" stuff wasn't there, who do you think the clear cut #1 would be?? I rest my case!!! No more to be typed about the 2.

I will put a Sig or Avi bet on end of season stats, if both stay healthy. No season like the first, to see where they both are at.. Right?? More passing yards, more TDs, better TD/Int ratio, accuracy?? What have you bud?

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mr. Derrty Bird

[jb 3.0]

The point is that knowledgeable members of the media are hearing rumors and have developed their own opinions that the Bucs may very well take Mariota. That says something about Mariota's abilities if you ask me. I think both will be quality QB's. The character issues are the main issues with Winston - even his lawyer has publicly said it. Manziel's off field issues (not to mention not performing on the field either) I think may have caused some hesitation in the Bucs organization. Probably not enough to sway them, I guess we won't know until the 30th...

The people that are saying it are not the ones that basically stay at One Buc Place 24/7 covering the team. The ones that do, the ones I know of still have the Bucs with a 85 to 90% chance of taking Winston. I'm sure that makes people hit the buttons to their national websites, but you go to joebucsfan.com, pewterreport.com, tampabay.com/bucs, tho.com/bucs, all local sites that are with the team constantly...are telling us Jameis is the guy they're taking.

But believe whatcha want. I'm saying we'll be picking Jameis Winston 3 weeks from this Thursday.

[jb 3.0]

I saw a QB crumble in the spotlight against a Mariota lead team. I would like to here and now claim Mariota will have a better NFL career than Winston. Bookmark if you want to. Winston staying home instead of attending the draft is a ploy. He is claiming, "This is who I am (my family)." I ain't buyin' it. Winston feels a sense of entitlement that was brought on by multiple outlets. That does not mean he should be acting as if - but that is exactly what he has done. Mariota works his tail off to have a great combine and he was leaps and bounds ahead of Winston in every category. Yes, Winston made all the throws but so did Mariota (not quite as good). Mariota is ready for the NFL. Maybe Winston is too, but as I stated Mariota will have the better career as long or short as it is...

Now I KNOW I don't want us to pick him!!!!

[jb 3.0]

Oregons D was wayyyyyy better than the 'Noles that night, don't give Marcus all the credit. Jameis was pressing, as he was all season. He knew his defense couldn't contain the speed of Oregon. Therefore, he felt as if he had to make a play every time..

As far as the two. They really are two TOTAL different types of QB. The one that last in the NFL, is a more "pro style" QB.. Not a guy who took 2 snaps under center last year.

Marcus could have a decent career, depending on where he goes. He has the talent required, no doubt. I believe he will take a few years longer than Jameis to accomplish "major" things in the NFL.

Jameis has a football IQ, almost like no other. As far as breaking down film, and knowing what the defense is doing. He is also in a different stratosphere, as far as leadership. You can't coach that. Pocket awareness- Jameis, Pocket passing- Jameis, Accuracy- Jameis..

Come on bro, don't be senile. Just because you may not like him, don't act like he is no where close to Marcus... When he's actually head and shoulders above the other.

IF the "off the field" stuff wasn't there, who do you think the clear cut #1 would be?? I rest my case!!! No more to be typed about the 2.

I will put a Sig or Avi bet on end of season stats, if both stay healthy. No season like the first, to see where they both are at.. Right?? More passing yards, more TDs, better TD/Int ratio, accuracy?? What have you bud?

Some people just don't seem to like him because he's brash and in your face. I get that, and understand it, but to say he's not a good quarterback because of it, is just plain foolish in my book.

[jb 3.0]

FYI.....

Plugged-in Peter Schrager of FOX Sports isn’t buying the rumors. He put out his updated mock draft today and, per his many top-shelf NFL sources, it is all but a lock Winston is selected by the Bucs.

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State

Winston’s Pro Day was a bit of a circus, but his draft stock left completely unscathed. Some teams aren’t as high on him as others, but the Buccaneers like the guy a lot. They’ve put more work into his off-the-field history than anyone in the media and are still comfortable with him being the face of the franchise. His meetings with Tampa Bay brass have been overwhelmingly positive and he’s left a good impression on just about everyone in that building. When it comes to an NFL quarterback who’s ready to start Day 1, he could be the most prepared for the challenge since Andrew Luck.

Tune out the Mariota talk; Winston’s the guy.

In the same BSPN podcast linked above with Jaws, Mike Greenberg claims former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, who has been staunchly in the Mariota camp, stated Winston showcasing himself in Tampa in social settings with former Buccaneers is a sure sign the Bucs are leaning Winston.

Winston has been in Tampa recently. He was at a Mike Alstott Charity function a few days ago.

[O-Ther]

Media trying to get clicks in a dry news period without a national story like Manti Te'o or Michael Sam. Next panel will discuss who will be suspended more games for marijuana between Winston, Gregory, and DGB.

[jb 3.0]

Media trying to get clicks in a dry news period without a national story like Manti Te'o or Michael Sam. Next panel will discuss who will be suspended more games for marijuana between Winston, Gregory, and DGB.

EXACTLY!! That's all it is. BTW, Winston's never tested positive for weed or any other substance.

[End zone Jones]

Some people just don't seem to like him because he's brash and in your face. I get that, and understand it, but to say he's not a good quarterback because of it, is just plain foolish in my book.

I understand that. When I first watched him and one of his interviews, I wasn't impressed. They way he has changed and grown, is a world's difference though. He said he had to realize, "I wasn't just one of the guys!"..

Now after watching him for so long, talking to him a few times along the years, I've realized something... He INST cocky or arrogant or conceded... He is simply CONFIDENT. Jaboo knows what he is capable of. It might come off wrong to some, but I believe it's not meant that way.

Once he gets between the lines, he's a machine though. Nothing is on his mind, but what he's gotta do and winning. I would go as far as saying, there is no one in this draft, with the leadership and football IQ that Jameis has... If I could build my team, I want a guy like that!!

The ones who say he can't or won't succeed, haven't watched him enough. Simple as that.

Edited April 13, 2015 by Mr. Derrty Bird

[End zone Jones]

Plus imagine how good Jameis can become, without having to split time between baseball and football. Devoting all his time to football, he still has a lot of potential left uncapped.

[jb 3.0]

I understand that. When I first watched him and one of his interviews, I wasn't impressed. They way he has changed and grown, is a world's difference though. He said he had to realize, "I wasn't just one of the guys!"..

Now after watching him for so long, talking to him a few times along the years, I've realized something... He INST cocky or arrogant or conceded... He is simply CONFIDENT. Jaboo knows what he is capable of. It might come off wrong to some, but I believe it's not meant that way.

Once he gets between the lines, he's a machine though. Nothing is on his mind, but what he's gotta do and winning. I would go as far as saying, there is no one in this draft, with the leadership and football IQ that Jameis has... If I could build my team, I want a guy like that!!

The ones who say he can't or won't succeed, haven't watched him enough. Simple as that.

He'll be the first to admit, he made some stupid choices, but being sat down that entire Clemson game woke his *** up.

He may very well end up being another wannabe NFL quarterback, but I sure as heII wouldn't bet against him!

[Big Bubba]

I hope they don't take Mariota.

I expect another woman to come forward after the Bucs draft Winston #1 overall...and accuse him of rape.

[jb 3.0]

Plus imagine how good Jameis can become, without having to split time between baseball and football. Devoting all his time to football, he still has a lot of potential left uncapped.

If he puts in the time and effort he could definitely be special. I wanna pick him, just to find out!

If he crashes and burns, the Bucs will be no worse off. We've sucked for so long now, ya can't really get any worse.

On the other hand, with his football savvy attitude, and talent, he could just be the catalyst the Bucs need to turn the team around. Why NOT take the plunge? We've got little to lose.

[jb 3.0]

I hope they don't take Mariota.

I expect another woman to come forward after the Bucs draft Winston #1 overall...and accuse him of rape.

I expect dozens to.

[End zone Jones]

He'll be the first to admit, he made some stupid choices, but being sat down that entire Clemson game woke his *** up.

He personally told me that. I think it was also on the video. Football is truly his "get away", when that was took away.. It really woke him up. He said, "years worth of work, can all be gone over night!" I truly believe he learned.

[End zone Jones]

I hope they don't take Mariota.

I expect another woman to come forward after the Bucs draft Winston #1 overall...and accuse him of rape.

$$$$$ Dollar signs

[O-Ther]

Winston might have learned that lesson about being a golden ticket a little too late

[End zone Jones]

If he puts in the time and effort he could definitely be special. I wanna pick him, just to find out!

If he crashes and burns, the Bucs will be no worse off. We've sucked for so long now, ya can't really get any worse.

On the other hand, with his football savvy attitude, and talent, he could just be the catalyst the Bucs need to turn the team around. Why NOT take the plunge? We've got little to lose.

I agree totally. Every player has a chance of "washing out" or being a "bust". I just can't see it with him, I've been wrong before though.

The Bucs desperately need a competent QB, to contend with now.. Not one who is gonna take 2-4 years to develop. Jameis' learning curve won't be as steep as the other's. He's already familiar with the "pro style" offense. Played against fairly good competition. His biggest adjustment I think, will be the speed of the players amd games..

[jb 3.0]

I agree totally. Every player has a chance of "washing out" or being a "bust". I just can't see it with him, I've been wrong before though.

The Bucs desperately need a competent QB, to contend with now.. Not one who is gonna take 2-4 years to develop. Jameis' learning curve won't be as steep as the other's. He's already familiar with the "pro style" offense. Played against fairly good competition. His biggest adjustment I think, will be the speed of the players amd games..

If he does Bust, it'll be...whadaya expect? The Bucs picked a QB and he sucked...how is that a surprise?

But if he clicks......Look the **** out!

[End zone Jones]

Maybe a change of scenery would do him some good. Playing outside Florida might be the ticket Winston needs?

I can agree with this WFW.. Get away from all the BS..

That could be a downfall, staying in Fla.