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So as to avoid spamming other threads, I am starting The BUD TRAIN!!! right here. This is for all the posters who realize Bud Dupree has the highest upside, the most athleticism, the highest ceiling of any defensive player in this draft. More than the overrated Leonard Williams, the even more overrated Dante Fowler, and more than Little Men In Big Worlders Beasley and Gregory.

He has weaknesses. He has flaws. Fortunately for us those are mostly just technique, and can be quickly taught/learned, and this coaching-up is precisely what Quinn is known to do exceedingly well.

So sign on and hop aboard The BUD TRAIN!!!

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The previous coaching staff under Joker Phillips was god-awful. When Mark Stoops took over he was left with a dumpster fire so they spent most of their efforts in recruiting and turning the program around rather than player development, especially the upperclassmen who wouldn't be around much longer... Dupree was a guy who was obviously hurt by this but the new staff basically decided that building for the future was more important than working on the present...

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The previous coaching staff under Joker Phillips was god-awful. When Mark Stoops took over he was left with a dumpster fire so they spent most of their efforts in recruiting and turning the program around rather than player development, especially the upperclassmen who wouldn't be around much longer... Dupree was a guy who was obviously hurt by this but the new staff basically decided that building for the future was more important than working on the present...

Thanks for the explanation. That makes me shake my head, though. Why not do both? Nothing makes tomorrow's recruiting easier than winning today.

However, I do apologize if my previous post seemed more harsh than intended. I didn't mean to sound like a butthead.

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Nah it's all good... And I'm sure they did their best to do both, but you gotta understand just how bad it was under the previous regime. They were essentially starting from scratch to attempt to build an SEC caliber program.

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I had Bud in my first mock because I believed Fowler, Beasley, Ray and Gregory would be gone. I'm starting to think Gregory or Ray will be available at eight so my current mock has Gregory at eight because I like him more than Ray or Bud. My last mock might have Gurley at eight because I'm of the BPA ilk and Gurley is arguably the BPA between Ray, Gregory, Bud, Scherff, Collins, Waynes, Cooper and White. Waiting to get more of an update on his injury status. Last word I heard is that he's running, jumping and back pedaling.

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I had Bud in my first mock because I believed Fowler, Beasley, Ray and Gregory would be gone. I'm starting to think Gregory or Ray will be available at eight so my current mock has Gregory at eight because I like him more than Ray or Bud. My last mock might have Gurley at eight because I'm of the BPA ilk and Gurley is arguably the BPA between Ray, Gregory, Bud, Scherff, Collins, Waynes, Cooper and White. Waiting to get more of an update on his injury status. Last word I heard is that he's running, jumping and back pedaling.

Can you explain why you like less athletic 230-240 pound guys over a more athletic 270 pound guy who can rush the passer AND drop into coverage AND hold the edge against the run?

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I understand that he has the skills to be a good SAM, but that doesnt mean he cant be a **** of a LEO. The thing keeping him from fully breaking out is hand usage and playing multiple spots w/o focusing on one.

He has the physical and athletic traits Of J. Houston. With a little refining, he fits in that mold w/better coverage ability.

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Can you explain why you like less athletic 230-240 pound guys over a more athletic 270 pound guy who can rush the passer AND drop into coverage AND hold the edge against the run?

Dupree's best fit for us would be at SAM, which is where we just signed Brooks Reed to a 5 year contract and have Shembo backing him up.
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I'd rather you explain why just about every draft board on the planet has Bud ranked as the fifth best edge rusher.

Because of his horrible lack of technique. But technique can be taught.

Look at his actual tape.

Look how deep he CONSISTENTLY gets into the backfield before the qb has even gotten out from under center, or has received the ball in the shotgun.

Look at how smooth and fluid he is in zone coverage. Look how he flips his hipa and turns.

His weaknesses are coachable. He brings measurables that speak of generational-level athletic ability. His character and other intangibles are icing on the cake.

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I would rather want Eli Harold.

I like Harold as well, but Dupree has so much more upside.

My dream is to get Dupree in the first and Orchard in the second. Have Orchard at DE and Dupree at OLB on the same side. Hopefully with Hageman wreaking consistent havoc on the inside! If that dream comes true, then we have the chance to develop a nasty defense.

It won't happen immediately, but when they all gel? That is a heckuva potential pressure defense.

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