jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I mean the jury has been deliberating for 3 days now. I realize much of the evidence appears to be circumstantial, but that's simply because the dirtbag had his fiancé dispose of the murder weapon.This is starting too smell more and more like the O.J. Trial..God I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 did he get ray lewis' lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 No matter the outcome, he's proven to be a complete *********. He deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life. It's clear this is not the first person he's ever shot. He's enjoyed the thug life.He's the kind of person that represents total danger to others in society.I hope he gets a long prison term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't see him walking Scott free, might not be convicted of murder 1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't see him walking Scott free, might not be convicted of murder 1 though.he should get the death penalty, but the fact that the jury is taking so freaking long to figure this out, shows they're probably gonna go lenient with the murdering p.o.s. I'm just afraid they'll let him walk. They are in Boston ya know. Just because they have some of the top learning institutions in the country located there, doesn't mean Bostonians are all that bright....Just look at Red Sox, Pats, Bruins and Celtic fans.....Just kiddin' Boston, you know I love ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 he should get the death penalty, but the fact that the jury is taking so freaking long to figure this out, shows they're probably gonna go lenient with the murdering p.o.s. I'm just afraid they'll let him walk. They are in Boston ya know. Just because they have some of the top learning institutions in the country located there, doesn't mean Bostonians are all that bright....Just look at Red Sox, Pats, Bruins and Celtic fans.....Just kiddin' Boston, you know I love ya!I haven't met many libs that are pro death penalty. Kudos sir!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFanInLA Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 With the amount of evidence I read about, it would be hard for me to imagine that he walks. While possible, man...it just seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I would lose more faith in the justice system if Hernandez does walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 With the amount of evidence I read about, it would be hard for me to imagine that he walks. While possible, man...it just seems unlikely.The thing is, he could walk just from the simple fact that his lawyer doesn't have to prove 100% that he didn't do it, just create enough doubt in the mind of the jurors that he might not have done it (if that makes any sense). If the Defense attorney can prove one ounce of doubt and that jury considers it, then like DD said he will get convicted, but it may not be murder 1, like we all thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't know all the evidence in the case but from what I've heard it sounds as though he is involved in the case in some way. Innocent until proven guilty. He does have the benefit of having a good lawyer team helping him out because of money. If he gets convicted of anything because he is guilty suspect it will be a lesser charge and not murder in the 1st degree.His Lawyer already admitted he witnessed the murder, and even if he technically didn't pull the trigger, he was complicit in some way. So, I expect if he's not guilty of Murder 1, he'll get some kind of accessory, or obstruction conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 What kind of time would that carry?Depends on the state, but: An accessory is punishable for either a misdemeanor, with a maximum one year sentence, or a felony, with a maximum three year sentenceObstruction of Justice carries a fine and a misdemeanor added to their criminal record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Aren't these the things Ray Lewis basically walked away from?Yes, he pleaded down to Obstruction of Justice in exchange for his testimony against his two co-defendants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 I haven't met many libs that are pro death penalty. Kudos sir!!I believe the one objective of being a parent is loving your kids and showing them right from wrong. Not abusing them and treating them like your personal property. I believe many of the criminals are the way they are because of their upbringing. But I also believe that's NOT a reason to be able to do whatever the **** you want and get away with it.I know this isn't a popular idea with most, but I firmly believe parents need to be held accountable for the way they bring up their kids. i've known a lotta people over the years that had horrific upbringings and today are extremely well adjusted successful adults, just as I've known some from horrific upbringings that are today horrific people capable of horrific deeds. With the way todays society is, I'm all for needing a license to procreate. You need a license to drive, to fish, to fly a plane, to do much of anything that could put someone else in harms way. But any pair of dumbasses with a ***** and vagina can have a child, and treat him any ******* way they want, and teach him to hate, to abuse him verbally, sexually, and emotionally...and never, ever be called on it. Until that changes, we're gonna keep seeing the likes of Aaron Hernandez, and that little prick that blew up the bomb at the finish line at the Boston Marathon. They found him guilty...now all they have to do is slide the needle in the arm of the miserable little prick.I may be a leftist....but I know right from wrong, and you intentionally take lives like that.....you pay with your own. It's not complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Depends on the state, but: An accessory is punishable for either a misdemeanor, with a maximum one year sentence, or a felony, with a maximum three year sentenceObstruction of Justice carries a fine and a misdemeanor added to their criminal record That's the same as finding him not guilty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 That's the same as finding him not guilty!!!Yep, only way Obstruction of justice is counted as a felony, is if it's obstructing a federal case, the charge can carry jail time I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I believe the one objective of being a parent is loving your kids and showing them right from wrong. Not abusing them and treating them like your personal property. I believe many of the criminals are the way they are because of their upbringing. But I also believe that's NOT a reason to be able to do whatever the **** you want and get away with it.I know this isn't a popular idea with most, but I firmly believe parents need to be held accountable for the way they bring up their kids. i've known a lotta people over the years that had horrific upbringings and today are extremely well adjusted successful adults, just as I've known some from horrific upbringings that are today horrific people capable of horrific deeds. With the way todays society is, I'm all for needing a license to procreate. You need a license to drive, to fish, to fly a plane, to do much of anything that could put someone else in harms way. But any pair of dumbasses with a ***** and vagina can have a child, and treat him any ******* way they want, and teach him to hate, to abuse him verbally, sexually, and emotionally...and never, ever be called on it. Until that changes, we're gonna keep seeing the likes of Aaron Hernandez, and that little prick that blew up the bomb at the finish line at the Boston Marathon. They found him guilty...now all they have to do is slide the needle in the arm of the miserable little prick.I may be a leftist....but I know right from wrong, and you intentionally take lives like that.....you pay with your own. It's not complicated.Sounds very conservative.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sounds very conservative....Perhaps, but my wife and I have raised five kids, all reasonably well adjusted and all productive. We didn't do it by by being soccer Moms or softball dads. We made fun of those types. We treated them with Love and respect. Was it easy for them or us? **** No, but they always knew they were loved deeply, maybe not at any one particular moment, but they always knew who they could count on. They knew who I was was, what I was all about, and the same with my wife. Did we make mistakes? **** Yes, but true unconditional Love can make up for just about anything.It's just like the man said...All you need is Love........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherWake Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 He's the tru definition of a thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NawlinsLady Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why is it, if you are in the company of friends who rob a liquor store and kill the cashier, even if you took no part in the actual commission of the crime (sat in the car waiting, say), you can be charged & convicted of murder? Yet the same standards don't hold true for Hernandez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why is it, if you are in the company of friends who rob a liquor store and kill the cashier, even if you took no part in the actual commission of the crime (sat in the car waiting, say), you can be charged & convicted of murder? Yet the same standards don't hold true for Hernandez?While those friends were using YOUR gun to hold up the liquor store and murder the Cashier....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallychamp Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I haven't met many libs that are pro death penalty. Kudos sir!!I think you should poll some people up here what they think should happen to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.Living up here I have followed the case closely and I think he has a chance of walking. It's all circumstantial evidence and as pointed out Hernandez has quality legal counsel. The prosecution had their work cut out for them because its almost impossible to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he did it, and the burden of proof is on the prosecution. The defense has pretty much taken the approach yeah, there is a lot of evidence, but no smoking gun. How can you convict and take a mans life away without knowing all the facts. No doubt he is a menace to society, and I shudder thinking he will be walking about this city as a free man. I hope i'm wrong and he goes away for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think you should poll some people up here what they think should happen to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.Living up here I have followed the case closely and I think he has a chance of walking. It's all circumstantial evidence and as pointed out Hernandez has quality legal counsel. The prosecution had their work cut out for them because its almost impossible to prove without a shadow of a doubt that he did it, and the burden of proof is on the prosecution. The defense has pretty much taken the approach yeah, there is a lot of evidence, but no smoking gun. How can you convict and take a mans life away without knowing all the facts. No doubt he is a menace to society, and I shudder thinking he will be walking about this city as a free man. I hope i'm wrong and he goes away for a long time.He's already been convicted! It's simply a matter of determining whether or not to slide the needle in the miserable little pricks skinny arm, or have us waste tax dollars to feed and keep the scumsucking little rodent breathing the rest of his miserable, scumsucking life.Ya want me to tell ya how I REALLY feel?It's one thing to accidently kill someone in a auto accident, but to intentionally murder as many as you possibly can for ANY REASON...you deserve to FRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Your big on labels aren't you?I'm big on ideals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If this dude walks from these charges, everyone on the jury should be shot.....Execution style, bullet to the forehead with a 50 Cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysfallforward Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I believe the one objective of being a parent is loving your kids and showing them right from wrong. Not abusing them and treating them like your personal property. I believe many of the criminals are the way they are because of their upbringing. But I also believe that's NOT a reason to be able to do whatever the **** you want and get away with it.I know this isn't a popular idea with most, but I firmly believe parents need to be held accountable for the way they bring up their kids. i've known a lotta people over the years that had horrific upbringings and today are extremely well adjusted successful adults, just as I've known some from horrific upbringings that are today horrific people capable of horrific deeds. With the way todays society is, I'm all for needing a license to procreate. You need a license to drive, to fish, to fly a plane, to do much of anything that could put someone else in harms way. But any pair of dumbasses with a ***** and vagina can have a child, and treat him any ******* way they want, and teach him to hate, to abuse him verbally, sexually, and emotionally...and never, ever be called on it. Until that changes, we're gonna keep seeing the likes of Aaron Hernandez, and that little prick that blew up the bomb at the finish line at the Boston Marathon. They found him guilty...now all they have to do is slide the needle in the arm of the miserable little prick.I may be a leftist....but I know right from wrong, and you intentionally take lives like that.....you pay with your own. It's not complicated.It is true imo that upbringing likely plays a role in how people turn out, however imo as it seems like you do acknowledge, upbringing is not an excuse for killing people.This is something that I think people lose sight of sometimes, where it seems they make it sound as if it's an excuse for what they have done. I also think it should be noted that there is a strong chance that the parents who harm their children may have had rough upbringings also, and their parents(or whoever harmed them)may also have. If you blame upbringing for someone's actions, the initial source of blame could go back very far.At some point though, you should want to break the cycle. If someone goes through trauma, and the way they respond is 'I suffered, so I don't care if others suffer' or something similar, then there is probably a flaw in their character imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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