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We all know that the falcons need a pass rush badly. But everyone seems to only want to address the LEO position. Which is what Bruce Irvin played mainly( correct me if im wrong).

But what about the about the other two end positions. I can see Clayborn playing the Bennet role kicking inside.

But who is our cliff Avril? Schoefield the career backup?

Why is it so cut and dry that we have to have a DE that can drop into coverage.

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Irvin was the SAM primarily, I think. And the LEO doesn't drop into coverage any more than any other DE, he rushes the passer almost without exception. The LEO is one of the DE positions, the one that is the passrush specialist, usually the fastest D-Lineman you have.

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Why can't you edit your topic? Any things possible if you put your mind to it.

yea i tried to figure it out before but can't seem find how to do it?

Irvin was the SAM primarily, I think. And the LEO doesn't drop into coverage any more than any other DE, he rushes the passer almost without exception. The LEO is one of the DE positions, the one that is the passrush specialist, usually the fastest D-Lineman you have.

That's were i get confused because when it pertains to draft prospects i see a lot of people using the ability to drop into coverage as a key characteristic of the LEO position.

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yea i tried to figure it out before but can't seem find how to do it?

That's were i get confused because when it pertains to draft prospects i see a lot of people using the ability to drop into coverage as a key characteristic of the LEO position.

Yeah, its basically just a way to use a guy who is ONLY known to rush the passer. They moved Irvin to SLB.

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The LEO is NOT an SLB. He is the RE playing in a stand up role. Sometimes in a wide formation, sometimes not. But it is simply making use of an OLB tweener as a RE.

You have any idea how often pecentage wise LEO is in a stand up position?

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Definitely often, but they use em in Wide 9 a lot too. Just depends! I'd definitely recommend looking at old Seattle games.

Some of the more recent Broncos too.

Who do you'll see on our roster filling the Cliff Avril role(RE). And which position is more impotant RE or LEO (in your mind) to a Dan Quinn run defense.

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Who do you'll see on our roster filling the Cliff Avril role(RE). And which position is more impotant RE or LEO (in your mind) to a Dan Quinn run defense.

Maponga could, so could Schofield. Not really anyone else I dig there. And yeah that's actually the LEO haha. I know the "LE" at the beginning can make it confusing, but the LEO is the right end. The way Quinn put it was "4-3 with 3-4 personnel" - so a lot of the time the LEO is a smaller guy used to rush the passer a lot, while the LE is better at stopping the run. The SAM is also used to blitz more often, and that'll probably be someone like Reed, Shembo, or Biermann.

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lol. I'm not trying to sound like a butthole . I actually have a premise to my line of questioning.

So where does Irvin play when Avril is playing the LEO role?

Strong side LB, or SAM, ie the LB on the left, better at blitzing while the weak side is used more for coverage. Usually the biggest LB. If you're looking at it from where the QB is, it's the right side LB.

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lol. I'm not trying to sound like a butthole . I actually have a premise to my line of questioning.

So where does Irvin play when Avril is playing the LEO role?

You are in no way a butthole and I never thought so. Always been a fan of yours even when we don't agree. Irvin was actually brought in with the idea of being an LEO player. When Quinn stepped in he became the SLB. Even at SLB he got 6.5 sacks. The year prior he was in rotation and was hurt. Before Quinn he got 8 sacks in rotation at LEO. He still played some at LEO with Quinn there though.

Only reason I know a little about Seattle was...I got my defensive fix watching them and the Ravens.

EDIT: This is what Brooks Reed will be doing for us. :)

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Strong side LB, or SAM, ie the LB on the left, better at blitzing while the weak side is used more for coverage. Usually the biggest LB. If you're looking at it from where the QB is, it's the right side LB.

When you say weak side you mean weak side linebacker or will correct?

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You are in no way a butthole and I never thought so. Always been a fan of yours even when we don't agree. Irvin was actually brought in with the idea of being an LEO player. When Quinn stepped in he became the SLB. Even at SLB he got 6.5 sacks. The year prior he was in rotation and was hurt. Before Quinn he got 8 sacks in rotation at LEO. He still played some at LEO with Quinn there though.

Only reason I know a little about Seattle was...I got my defensive fix watching them and the Ravens.

EDIT: This is what Brooks Reed will be doing for us. smile.png

I gotcha.Would you say that (theoretically) a DE that has the athleticism to rush standing up is a better fit for the LEO position or is an OLB a with athleticism a better fit?

And i wonder how much of Avril's arrival in 2013 attributed to Irvin seeing more snaps at SLB?

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I gotcha.Would you say that (theoretically) a DE that has the athleticism to rush standing up is a better fit for the LEO position or is an OLB a with athleticism a better fit?

And i wonder how much of Avril's arrival in 2013 attributed to Irvin seeing more snaps at SLB?

Either, or would do. You can actually do anything at all with the LEO which is why the excitement. This is why people are remarking so much on it. So a really athletic RE or an OLB would do. You could, in theory, even use a bigger guy. Bennett was lined up there some too.

It had a lot to do with that and Quinn seeing the speed and size he likes at SLB. He will rush the passer from SLB quite a bit.

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Maponga could, so could Schofield. Not really anyone else I dig there. And yeah that's actually the LEO haha. I know the "LE" at the beginning can make it confusing, but the LEO is the right end. The way Quinn put it was "4-3 with 3-4 personnel" - so a lot of the time the LEO is a smaller guy used to rush the passer a lot, while the LE is better at stopping the run. The SAM is also used to blitz more often, and that'll probably be someone like Reed, Shembo, or Biermann.

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