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Atlanta's first (#8) and 2nd ( #42). The points work out almost perfectly.

Cleveland wants a stud WR and sees St. Louis and Minnesota right there - both ready to pounce.

Draft works out like this:

1-1 TB - Jameis Winston

1-2 Ten - Marcus Mariota

1-3 Jac - Dante Fowler

1-4 Oak - Leonard Williams

1-5 Was - Vic Beasley

1-6 NYJ - La'el Collins

1-7 Chi - Amari Cooper

1-8 Cle - Kevin White

1-9 NYG - Danny Shelton

1-10 StL - Brendon Schreff

1-11 Min - Trae Waynes

1-12 Atl - Shane Ray

1-13 NO - Bud Dupree

1-14 Mia - Devonte Parker

1-15 SF - Randy Gregory

1-16 Hou - Landon Collins

1-17 SD - Andrus Peat

1-18 KC - Jaelen Strong

1-19 Atl - Todd Gurley

Plausible, since the only way teams move up is when they panic or have a critical need. Cleveland will panic when Cooper comes off the board, because they need a stud WR. They know that they can get a QB in the second round, and they now have two 2nd round picks.

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"People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that"

And so it was spoken! Hey, ding dong, our first and second are worth a combined 1890 points on the chart. Plenty of ammo to get two first rounders. It's math.

"Why would they give up a first round pick for White when Davante Parker will fall right into their lap?"

A more intelligent question. Simple: Cooper and White are elite, Parker is one/two steps back. (think Julio Jones vs. Jonathan Baldwin, the guy Bill Belichek told Dimitroff to wait for...)

Plus, they are not giving up either pick, just moving up with one of them, moving down with the other.

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"People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that"

And so it was spoken! Hey, ding dong, our first and second are worth a combined 1890 points on the chart. Plenty of ammo to get two first rounders. It's math.

"Why would they give up a first round pick for White when Davante Parker will fall right into their lap?"

A more intelligent question. Simple: Cooper and White are elite, Parker is one/two steps back. (think Julio Jones vs. Jonathan Baldwin, the guy Bill Belichek told Dimitroff to wait for...)

Plus, they are not giving up either pick, just moving up with one of them, moving down with the other.

Lol, keep living in your fantasy world. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. smile.png

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the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.

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the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.

no doubt, they could go up to 4 and still get a midround pick back.

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the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.

You're right. To get both of Clevelands firsts we would have to give up our 8, 42 and 107 for it to even out.
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You're right. To get both of Clevelands firsts we would have to give up our 8, 42 and 107 for it to even out.

I've said it before, but you don't get that kind of bounty, unless either you have the other team by the balls, or the other GM/Owner is just really that stupid.

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I've said it before, but you don't get that kind of bounty, unless either you have the other team by the balls, or the other GM/Owner is just really that stupid.

Why does that sound familier in a creepy sort of.............

Wait a dammmmm M minute.

Which is dumb and dumberer?

A. Pioli Dimitroff.

B. Jat Adaszs and Da Future staring in Dumb and Dumbererer,,,, aka Aw Chit

C. Darryl Ledbetter and the Gurlie Homers

Z. All of the Above

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the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.

Well tbh the OP actually traded our 1st and 2nd round pick, not just the 1st rounder.

Whether it works out still or not idk but just wanted to clear the air.

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Regardless on who gets drafted where . I really like the moving back in first and acquiring both Cleveland's 1st rounders however id hate giving them our second . Number 8 , 5th , 6th and 7th rounders for 12 and 19 .

no where near enough. the only way would be give up 2nd and 3rd and we could maybe get back a 6th. no way do we get clevelands 2 firsts. this is a dream that needs to be put to rest, no way in **** it happens.

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Atlanta's first (#8) and 2nd ( #42). The points work out almost perfectly.

Cleveland wants a stud WR and sees St. Louis and Minnesota right there - both ready to pounce.

Draft works out like this:

1-1 TB - Jameis Winston

1-2 Ten - Marcus Mariota

1-3 Jac - Dante Fowler

1-4 Oak - Leonard Williams

1-5 Was - Vic Beasley

1-6 NYJ - La'el Collins

1-7 Chi - Amari Cooper

1-8 Cle - Kevin White

1-9 NYG - Danny Shelton

1-10 StL - Brendon Schreff

1-11 Min - Trae Waynes

1-12 Atl - Shane Ray

1-13 NO - Bud Dupree

1-14 Mia - Devonte Parker

1-15 SF - Randy Gregory

1-16 Hou - Landon Collins

1-17 SD - Andrus Peat

1-18 KC - Jaelen Strong

1-19 Atl - Todd Gurley

Plausible, since the only way teams move up is when they panic or have a critical need. Cleveland will panic when Cooper comes off the board, because they need a stud WR. They know that they can get a QB in the second round, and they now have two 2nd round picks.

Now at this point I wouldn't have a problem with gurley this was a dope idea

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3 pushbacks:

1) The trade is 185 pts off ( Atl 1+2= 1890 puts, Cle's two 1's are 2075)

Valid criticism: I thought about that. But a) the chart is a bit off. Top picks are worth more, since the change in the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFLPA limited contract values. B) evidence: In 2014, Buffalo traded a subsequent years' #1 pick to move up from 9 to 4 (450 pts). Let's just say I was a bit hopeful. Trade still works if we add in 100 pts or so (our 4th)

2) Shaun Ray does not fall

Partially valid: Again, I can be hopeful, but Dupree would be a good alternative.

3) The criticism of taking Gurley (although I would be just fine with Gordon)

Invalid: Gurley is rising across the board. (reference: Mort on 680 Friday afternoon), so is Gordon. They are both studs. AND the weakest position and biggest hole on the Falcons O right now is RB.

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