BuckheadFan Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Atlanta's first (#8) and 2nd ( #42). The points work out almost perfectly.Cleveland wants a stud WR and sees St. Louis and Minnesota right there - both ready to pounce. Draft works out like this:1-1 TB - Jameis Winston1-2 Ten - Marcus Mariota1-3 Jac - Dante Fowler1-4 Oak - Leonard Williams1-5 Was - Vic Beasley1-6 NYJ - La'el Collins1-7 Chi - Amari Cooper1-8 Cle - Kevin White1-9 NYG - Danny Shelton1-10 StL - Brendon Schreff1-11 Min - Trae Waynes1-12 Atl - Shane Ray1-13 NO - Bud Dupree1-14 Mia - Devonte Parker1-15 SF - Randy Gregory1-16 Hou - Landon Collins1-17 SD - Andrus Peat1-18 KC - Jaelen Strong1-19 Atl - Todd GurleyPlausible, since the only way teams move up is when they panic or have a critical need. Cleveland will panic when Cooper comes off the board, because they need a stud WR. They know that they can get a QB in the second round, and they now have two 2nd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd rather trade them Hankerson for the 12th pick and Sam Baker for the 19th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If we trade, and I would make a trade but would make it a 2nd next year instead, I would take Bud Dupree and Eli Harold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBoy87 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Jigsaw Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Stopped reading at Brendon Schreff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Why would they give up a first round pick for White when Davante Parker will fall right into their lap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that.Is the possibility high? Absolutely not but let people speculate all they want. What's the harm in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckheadFan Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 "People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that"And so it was spoken! Hey, ding dong, our first and second are worth a combined 1890 points on the chart. Plenty of ammo to get two first rounders. It's math."Why would they give up a first round pick for White when Davante Parker will fall right into their lap?"A more intelligent question. Simple: Cooper and White are elite, Parker is one/two steps back. (think Julio Jones vs. Jonathan Baldwin, the guy Bill Belichek told Dimitroff to wait for...)Plus, they are not giving up either pick, just moving up with one of them, moving down with the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 no, it doesn t8 = 1400 42 = 48012 = 1200 19 = 875not sure how that works out almost perfectly. that is a difference of almost 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Gee how did I know that this was going to be another Girlie da Gimp topic.Topic should have read,,,Atlanta trades their First to Cleveland for Girley.......[/uRL]who will start the season on the Injured Reserve list regardless of who drafts his asz!~How about we draft somebody who can start on Day One .!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 "People need to stop coming up with scenarios where we get 2 first round picks. It is simply not going to happen. Accept that"And so it was spoken! Hey, ding dong, our first and second are worth a combined 1890 points on the chart. Plenty of ammo to get two first rounders. It's math."Why would they give up a first round pick for White when Davante Parker will fall right into their lap?"A more intelligent question. Simple: Cooper and White are elite, Parker is one/two steps back. (think Julio Jones vs. Jonathan Baldwin, the guy Bill Belichek told Dimitroff to wait for...)Plus, they are not giving up either pick, just moving up with one of them, moving down with the other.Lol, keep living in your fantasy world. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingslasher Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I knew this was another draft Gurley thread the second I saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.no doubt, they could go up to 4 and still get a midround pick back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.You're right. To get both of Clevelands firsts we would have to give up our 8, 42 and 107 for it to even out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 You're right. To get both of Clevelands firsts we would have to give up our 8, 42 and 107 for it to even out.I've said it before, but you don't get that kind of bounty, unless either you have the other team by the balls, or the other GM/Owner is just really that stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I've said it before, but you don't get that kind of bounty, unless either you have the other team by the balls, or the other GM/Owner is just really that stupid.Why does that sound familier in a creepy sort of.............Wait a dammmmm M minute.Which is dumb and dumberer?A. Pioli Dimitroff.B. Jat Adaszs and Da Future staring in Dumb and Dumbererer,,,, aka Aw ChitC. Darryl Ledbetter and the Gurlie HomersZ. All of the Above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I've said it before, but you don't get that kind of bounty, unless either you have the other team by the balls, or the other GM/Owner is just really that stupid.Well, we ARE discussing Cleveland's GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Ray isnts falling to 12.. thats a pipe dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas11bravo Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Regardless on who gets drafted where . I really like the moving back in first and acquiring both Cleveland's 1st rounders however id hate giving them our second . Number 8 , 5th , 6th and 7th rounders for 12 and 19 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 the math on the trade does not work out. To move down from #8 - #12, we would be doing well to get Cleveland's 2nd round pick. Thinking we are going to get #12 and #18 for our #8 is not reality - not even a dream. If Cleveland wanted to give up that much, they would move much higher than #8 to secure their preferred prospect.Well tbh the OP actually traded our 1st and 2nd round pick, not just the 1st rounder.Whether it works out still or not idk but just wanted to clear the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Regardless on who gets drafted where . I really like the moving back in first and acquiring both Cleveland's 1st rounders however id hate giving them our second . Number 8 , 5th , 6th and 7th rounders for 12 and 19 . no where near enough. the only way would be give up 2nd and 3rd and we could maybe get back a 6th. no way do we get clevelands 2 firsts. this is a dream that needs to be put to rest, no way in **** it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GvGrizzy Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Atlanta's first (#8) and 2nd ( #42). The points work out almost perfectly.Cleveland wants a stud WR and sees St. Louis and Minnesota right there - both ready to pounce. Draft works out like this:1-1 TB - Jameis Winston1-2 Ten - Marcus Mariota1-3 Jac - Dante Fowler1-4 Oak - Leonard Williams1-5 Was - Vic Beasley1-6 NYJ - La'el Collins1-7 Chi - Amari Cooper1-8 Cle - Kevin White1-9 NYG - Danny Shelton1-10 StL - Brendon Schreff1-11 Min - Trae Waynes1-12 Atl - Shane Ray1-13 NO - Bud Dupree1-14 Mia - Devonte Parker1-15 SF - Randy Gregory1-16 Hou - Landon Collins1-17 SD - Andrus Peat1-18 KC - Jaelen Strong1-19 Atl - Todd GurleyPlausible, since the only way teams move up is when they panic or have a critical need. Cleveland will panic when Cooper comes off the board, because they need a stud WR. They know that they can get a QB in the second round, and they now have two 2nd round picks. Now at this point I wouldn't have a problem with gurley this was a dope idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckheadFan Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 3 pushbacks:1) The trade is 185 pts off ( Atl 1+2= 1890 puts, Cle's two 1's are 2075)Valid criticism: I thought about that. But a) the chart is a bit off. Top picks are worth more, since the change in the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFLPA limited contract values. evidence: In 2014, Buffalo traded a subsequent years' #1 pick to move up from 9 to 4 (450 pts). Let's just say I was a bit hopeful. Trade still works if we add in 100 pts or so (our 4th)2) Shaun Ray does not fallPartially valid: Again, I can be hopeful, but Dupree would be a good alternative.3) The criticism of taking Gurley (although I would be just fine with Gordon)Invalid: Gurley is rising across the board. (reference: Mort on 680 Friday afternoon), so is Gordon. They are both studs. AND the weakest position and biggest hole on the Falcons O right now is RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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