Oldskooler Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 He is an outstanding player, and would fill a huge need for us. But drafts are not done in a vacuum.I have run roughly a half-dozen FanSpeak mock drafts taking Scherff. All have been overall disasters. The defensive options left at 42 are uninspiring when viewed as our primary defensive upgrade.The names that are consistently available at #42 are de Nate Orchard, ilb Stephone Anthony, ilb Bernardrick McKinney, and a de from UCLA whose name I cannot pronounce, and will not try to spell.All are fine players, and following a pick of a premier pass rusher, would be exciting. But none will drastically transform our defense.Further, there are quality offensive linemen consistently available in the third and fourth rounds. As good as Scherff? Probably not. But better than what we have? Highly likely.I am not opposed to taking Scherff due to the quality of the player he is, but rather due to the depth of talent available at his position vs. the true impact defensive players available later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WornOutFalconFan Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If we took this guy at #8 and he plays 10 years of excellent football I wont complain we used a number one on him...No one else will be complaining either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxatlanta Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Seems that we might need to trade back into the first if we dont get a pass rusher at 8. Gregory dropping like Moss pr Dez did is the dream scenario for that.Also, DQ may have a guy he likes already that he can get later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Diesel Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Now that we are implementing a ZBS and considering the personnel we have in place, it's hard to imagine the Falcons drafting an OT at #8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Wow, i agree, just posted a look a like thread LOL .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Taking any player at #8 might be a huge mistake. U never know how a prospect will pan out./thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Taking any player at #8 might be a huge mistake. U never know how a prospect will pan out./threadprofound.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yeah, this is actually a good point.Maximizing the draft is about knowing where the talent is deep and knowing where it is shallow. If you can get a great guard in the 3rd, take something else early.Perfect for us is if one of our top pass rushers is there in the 1st, and a 1st year starter at guard in the 3rd...but if the board drops another way, we may have to go OG, or even CB or WR in the first...but I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yeah, this is actually a good point.Maximizing the draft is about knowing where the talent is deep and knowing where it is shallow. If you can get a great guard in the 3rd, take something else early.Perfect for us is if one of our top pass rushers is there in the 1st, and a 1st year starter at guard in the 3rd...but if the board drops another way, we may have to go OG, or even CB or WR in the first...but I hope not.If Fowler and Beasley are gone, my dream scenario is for Cleveland to really want Mariota. They trade both of their firsts to us for our #8 and something appropriate next year. Then we draft Dupree at #12 and Harold at #19. Stack them on one side of the line to give a LT nightmares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Anthony in the second would be tremendous.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If Fowler and Beasley are gone, my dream scenario is for Cleveland to really want Mariota. They trade both of their firsts to us for our #8 and something appropriate next year. Then we draft Dupree at #12 and Harold at #19. Stack them on one side of the line to give a LT nightmares.I'd have no problem with that. Also no problem with taking one of them, and best OT on the board. That trade will never happen, but if it did, it would open up a world of possibilities. Could even take a skill player. But I do like the idea of 2 pass rushers somewhere in the draft, so we bulletproof ourselves a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If Fowler and Beasley are gone, my dream scenario is for Cleveland to really want Mariota. They trade both of their firsts to us for our #8 and something appropriate next year. Then we draft Dupree at #12 and Harold at #19. Stack them on one side of the line to give a LT nightmares.That actually is profound if they go for it. I'd love it to play out like that. I don't know the value of our pick @ 8 but if we can get Clev's picks @12 & 19 I would swap around some picks with them in the next few rounds (within reason) to make that happen. Time for Trader Tom to go to work & earn his pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookAboutFalcon Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Agreed, Scherff is so overrated, people are comparing him to the next Zack Martin, I can tell you this, Martin got beat a lot less than Schreff did on tape. Sorry, you just don't take Guards at 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Sorry, you just don't take Guards at 8.+1 I'll say the same about S & RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Agreed, Scherff is so overrated, people are comparing him to the next Zack Martin, I can tell you this, Martin got beat a lot less than Schreff did on tape. Sorry, you just don't take Guards at 8.Anyone that watches the Maryland tape of him would knock him down a peg or two, he was horrible....I like him as a G prospect, but I just do not see a huge difference/drop off between him and like 4-5 other G prospects we could get later..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Your first two sentences contradict the statement made in your title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@ck Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Im just praying Stephone Anthony makes it to pick # 42.. He's my "Ra'Shede Hageman" this year.. was so ecstatic when Shede dropped last year some people on here had him going high as top half of the first.. Would love Anthony this year, but i would take Kendricks as a consolation..if both of them are gone, im open for any position, be it rb or wr, or even another edge rusher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Im just praying Stephone Anthony makes it to pick # 42.. He's my "Ra'Shede Hageman" this year.. was so ecstatic when Shede dropped last year some people on here had him going high as top half of the first.. Would love Anthony this year, but i would take Kendricks as a consolation..if both of them are gone, im open for any position, be it rb or wr, or even another edge rusher! Thing about Kendricks he seems like a guy that could slide all across the second level and be a huge asset in coverage....and the guy just makes play after play....I wish he was a tad bigger though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 He is an outstanding player, and would fill a huge need for us.End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyakita Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Taking any player at #8 "could" be a mistake as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey. Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd just rather see the Falcons address a different position than guard with a top 10 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd just rather see the Falcons address a different position than guard with a top 10 pick.You could still get a rb in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halsey. Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'm happy to take a RB prospect top 10 if I think he can be great. I'm ok being less aggressive about having an elite guard. Everyone has their preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd just rather see the Falcons address a different position than guard with a top 10 pick.If our pass rush need wasn't so dire, a G of Scherff's caliber, one that can also play OT, would be a fine pick. Reading the article posted about his background, his athleticism (plays tennis, played QB, plays baseball and basketball very well) makes him a perfect fit for our new zbs.The only problem is that our pass rush need is dire. If we don't get a pass rusher in the first, our chances of finding a game-changer drop significantly. Not to zero, but lower than I like. Also, there will be quality guards available in the third and fourth rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If our pass rush need wasn't so dire, a G of Scherff's caliber, one that can also play OT, would be a fine pick. Reading the article posted about his background, his athleticism (plays tennis, played QB, plays baseball and basketball very well) makes him a perfect fit for our new zbs.The only problem is that our pass rush need is dire. If we don't get a pass rusher in the first, our chances of finding a game-changer drop significantly. Not to zero, but lower than I like. Also, there will be quality guards available in the third and fourth rounds.Hope you were not a proponent of our free agency...if pass rush is do or die.Plenty of game changers at #8...if you are not hung up on need. Just happens the talent is on the offensive side...#8 No shame in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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