MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25141214/nfl-draft-miami-dolphins-considering-trading-into-the-top-10Dolphins thinking trade into top ten. A few questions:1) would you trade down to 14?2) who would be your draft choice for Falcons at 14?3) what compensation package would you seek from the phone to move down?OPTIONAL:1a) post your quick mock reflecting this trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 My reply is this:1) yes I'd take the trade2) Landon Collins3) we trade 8 overall for pick 14 and their 2nd and 4th rounders this yearOPTIONAL:RD1: Landon Collins S BamaRD 2: Jay Ajayi, RB Boise State 6'0" 220 lbs.RD2: (from phins): Danielle Hunter, LSU EDGE RD 3: Anthony Harris, S UVA 6'1" 183 lbsRD4: Mitch Morse, OG MizzouRD 4: (from phins)Ty Montgomery WR, Stanford 6'0 216 lbsRD 5: Jake Ryan, OLB Michigan , 6'2" 240. RD 6: Shaquille Mason G/C GA Tech, 6'2" 310RD 7: Zach Zenner HB/FB SDSU 5'11" 220 RD 7: Max Valles OLB/DE UVA 6'5" 251: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Already know what the overwhelming answer will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Already know what the overwhelming answer will be.Yes or no from you? It wasn't a slam dunk yes for me tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 My reply is this:1) yes I'd take the trade2) Landon Collins3) we trade 8 overall for pick 14 and their 2nd and 4th rounders this yearOPTIONAL:RD1: Landon Collins S BamaRD 2: Jay Ajayi, RB Boise State 6'0" 220 lbs.RD2: (from phins): Danielle Hunter, LSU EDGE RD 3: Anthony Harris, S UVA 6'1" 183 lbsRD4: Mitch Morse, OG MizzouRD 4: (from phins)Ty Montgomery WR, Stanford 6'0 216 lbsRD 5: Jake Ryan, OLB Michigan , 6'2" 240. RD 6: Shaquille Mason G/C GA Tech, 6'2" 310RD 7: Zach Zenner HB/FB SDSU 5'11" 220 RD 7: Max Valles OLB/DE UVA 6'5" 251:Why on earth would you draft two safeties that early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Why on earth would you draft two safeties that early.No commentary--my bad...in my situation you're moving Dez to cb...in mock you see that sorry. And moore is 1 jun cutBut note Harris can and has played cb as well. He's a long armed ballhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Fins have up their third round pick to the Stains when they traded for Stills. We are not from a second and fourth from them. The only trade I'd take from them would be Dion Jordan and a third next year and I'd take the straight up BPA on our draft board, even if it was another edge rusher. If prefer a safety or receiver at 14, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If Beasly, Fowler, and Ray are gone then yeah I think it's a smart plan. If one of these three are there we should draft them and not move down. I don't have the want for making a 7 round mock (that's what I have you mocker fockers for) but if we did trade down we should get this years first and next years first (maybe throw in a 4-5 round this year too). Draft a great Safety or WR with the Dolphins 1st this year. Use next years first acquired from Dolphins to get Justin Houston from KC. Draft Gurley in the 2nd if he's there, if he's taken wait and get one of the other good RBs in a later round and draft a good Olinemen in the 2nd.That's as far as I'll go with my mock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Fins have up their third round pick to the Stains when they traded for Stills. We are not from a second and fourth from them. The only trade I'd take from them would be Dion Jordan and a third next year and I'd take the straight up BPA on our draft board, even if it was another edge rusher. If prefer a safety or receiver at 14, though.Barring us just loving Jordan, I see zero motivation for us to drop from the 8 pick to 14 for a third. That's a weak trade on our part. Dion, if we liked him and a third next year is a good trade. Just a third? I'd stay at 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 If Beasly, Fowler, and Ray are gone then yeah I think it's a smart plan. If one of these three are there we should draft them and not move down. I don't have the want for making a 7 round mock (that's what I have you mocker fockers for) but if we did trade down we should get this years first and next years first (maybe throw in a 4-5 round this year too). Draft a great Safety or WR with the Dolphins 1st this year. Use next years first acquired from Dolphins to get Justin Houston from KC. Draft Gurley in the 2nd if he's there, if he's taken wait and get one of the other good RBs in a later round and draft a good Olinemen in the 2nd.That's as far as I'll go with my mock.Interesting idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 1. if ray is gone i'd trade back. 2.Brandon Scherff / Lael Collins3. don't think we would get more than a second from them just going by the trade value chart1(14). Scherff OG/OT1(32) Nate Orchard**trade**We send the dolphins 2nd and our 4th round pick to the Patriots for the 32nd pick. 2(42) Ali Marpet OC/OG3. Markus Golden5. Hayes Pullard6. Matt Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) If Cooper/White is there and Quinn doesnt like a PR On the board, Id call them and offer our 1st and 4th for their 1st and Dion Jordan. Edited April 9, 2015 by RubberDucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Jigsaw Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If I have to trade back to 14, I'm going to want more than fair compensation because I don't want to let the Saints pick right ahead of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If Cooper/White is there and Quinn doesnt like a PR On the board, Id call them and offer our 1st and 4th for their 1st and Dion Jordan.We could definitely get their first and DJ for our first IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 If Cooper/White is there and Quinn doesnt like a PR On the board, Id call them and offer our 1st and 4th for their 1st and Dion Jordan. Thinking we'd come out pretty lopsided on the short end of that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 We could definitely get their first and DJ for our first IMO Dion Jordan has been a disappointment. He sustained a shoulder injury, as a rookie, returned to play, only to get suspended for PED use. As a Dolphin, he has put on a lot of weight (PED's?). He has stated repeatedly that he is a DE, not a LB. Unfortunately, he has not been able to earn the starting role at DE. So, I can not tell whether DJ can play. He is the definition of Enigma. Here is the question: Can Quinn turn DJ into a pass rushing terror? If the answer is NO, then let's not make this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBridgez Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The only person I would trade down for would be Bud Dupree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpiper Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Falcons could trade back and still get Dupree at 14. This is who they want anyway. Miami wants a WR. They are trading up for Cooper or White whoever Oakland does not take. They want our spot to get a WR before St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbrough Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yes I would. Then I'd take Gregory. My draft would look like this (I used CBS's big board):1. Gregory2. Kendricks/ Anthony2. Prewitt3. Marpet (G/T)4. David Johnson/ Mike Davis4. Chris Conely5. Darren Waller (flex TE)6. Gunter7. Poutasi (G)7. Rannell Hall/ DeAndre Smelter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMERICAN NIGHTMARE Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Falcons could trade back and still get Dupree at 14. This is who they want anyway. Miami wants a WR. They are trading up for Cooper or White whoever Oakland does not take. They want our spot to get a WR before St. Louis.saints will take dupree at 12 just to make us mad. im in favor of staying put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbrough Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Just did this on first pick in a trade with MIA. I don't like their big board, but it could happen. Gregory was gone @ 6 on their board.Round 1 Pick 14 (MIA): Alvin Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky (A)Round 2 Pick 10: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-)Round 2 Pick 15 (MIA): Cody Prewitt, FS, Ole Miss (B+)Round 3 Pick 9: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (Round 4 Pick 8: Josue Matias, OG, Florida State (Round 4 Pick 15 (MIA): Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B+)Round 5 Pick 10: Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (A-)Round 6 Pick 9: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A-)Round 7 Pick 8: Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA (Round 7 Pick 32: Rannell Hall, WR, UCF (A+)Your Future Picks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Hitter Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Some are being too generous. Throw away that trade value chart as it doesn't apply anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasfalconfan Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Landon could be had later in the first we should trade back some more for an extra third. We need players remember our whole oline is coming back from season ending injuries. Our edge rushers are fa's there respective teams just let go. We lost our slot receiver. Our rb corp needs some beef. Our mlb's are weak and so is our fs position. I'd trade back often for extra picks then trade up using our late round gamble picks to try to get 5 starters in the first 4 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasfalconfan Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Just did this on first pick in a trade with MIA. I don't like their big board, but it could happen. Gregory was gone @ 6 on their board.Round 1 Pick 14 (MIA): Alvin Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky (A)Round 2 Pick 10: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-)Round 2 Pick 15 (MIA): Cody Prewitt, FS, Ole Miss (B+)Round 3 Pick 9: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (Round 4 Pick 8: Josue Matias, OG, Florida State (Round 4 Pick 15 (MIA): Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B+)Round 5 Pick 10: Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (A-)Round 6 Pick 9: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (A-)Round 7 Pick 8: Ellis McCarthy, DT, UCLA (Round 7 Pick 32: Rannell Hall, WR, UCF (A+)Your Future Picks:Alvin Dupree is a great pick at 14 but Eli Harold won't be there in the 2nd round Cody prewitt is an interesting pick I'm good with but I think that spot in the draft should me be focused on a mlbI'd go Ali marpet guard instead of the tackle we have Mathews, shraeder, Holmes, and yes baker for tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasfalconfan Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I was looking at miamis pick and the trade chart. First there 2nd round pick is worth 140 more points Han the differences between 8 and 14. The truer value is their 3rd and 4th rounder but they already traded their third to New Orleans so we either get a really great deal picking up their 2nd or we have to trade for future picks like next years 2nd. This would be alright with me since we are most likely 2 years out from real contention again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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