Flip Flop 2,443 Posted June 14, 2015 Or the problem is weak training.The two are intertwined. If you are currently hiring ten thousand new people a year and then boost that up to one hundred thousand, who trains the extra ninety thousand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 14, 2015 The two are intertwined. If you are currently hiring ten thousand new people a year and then boost that up to one hundred thousand, who trains the extra ninety thousand?Except that cops aren't in high supply. We've been cutting their benefits and cutting manpower. Pulling excuses out of your butt may sound good but it doesn't really prove anything when it's not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 14, 2015 The two are intertwined. If you are currently hiring ten thousand new people a year and then boost that up to one hundred thousand, who trains the extra ninety thousand?In today's atmosphere who would want to be a police officer? The vets know how bad it is out there now and they are just trying to ride this thing out until retirement. Maybe people who study criminology might want to pursue other avenues in police work like being a detective, police forensic analysts, a profiler, but a beat Officer, no way! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Flop 2,443 Posted June 14, 2015 Except that cops aren't in high supply. We've been cutting their benefits and cutting manpower. Pulling excuses out of your butt may sound good but it doesn't really prove anything when it's not true.Is that a fact? Are you saying that we have lowered the number of police officers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 14, 2015 Is that a fact? Are you saying that we have lowered the number of police officers?It's not a secret that police departments are overworked and undermanned. What country have you been living in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® 7,339 Posted June 14, 2015 In today's atmosphere who would want to be a police officer? The vets know how bad it is out there now and they are just trying to ride this thing out until retirement. Maybe people who study criminology might want to pursue other avenues in police work like being a detective, police forensic analysts, a profiler, but a beat Officer, no way! So how bad is it out there? How many officers have been gunned down by civilians? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 14, 2015 So how bad is it out there? How many officers have been gunned down by civilians?That happens but that was not the point I was trying to convey. I don't know what you do for a living but imagine every move you made at work was gone over with a fine tooth comb with people that are looking for the smallest infraction of your daily routine in order to get you fired? That is where i was going with the previous statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 14, 2015 A lot of "beat" officers aren't there by choice. They're either there because they are incapable of promotions, department politics or they're just new.It's rather foolish to think officers are typically choosing to be a patrolman as their career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® 7,339 Posted June 14, 2015 We all have pressures at work. That is a really weak excuse. In fact, I work in that exact circumstance and never once has it caused me to be sofa king stressed that I'd behave like an animal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 14, 2015 And everyone in a police department SHOULD have their work combed. They're public servants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 14, 2015 We all have pressures at work. That is a really weak excuse.In fact, I work in that exact circumstance and never once has it caused me to be sofa king stressed that I'd behave like an animal.Not saying they are perfect but most our jobs do not entail such pressure. I think you will see less and less people wanting to be police officers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 14, 2015 If they can't handle the pressures of scrutiny in the office, it's good that they aren't on the street with weapons dealing with the pressures of the street. Working as intended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 14, 2015 If they can't handle the pressures of scrutiny in the office, it's good that they aren't on the street with weapons dealing with the pressures of the street. Working as intended.Agreed, those are the ones we need to get off the street sooner rather than later! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Ocean 33,313 Posted June 14, 2015 There's not a lot of jobs anymore for people without education or marketable skills, so I don't think the labor pool for cops is gonna dry up anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® 7,339 Posted June 14, 2015 Never called for civilians to gun down police. Said it wouldn't stop until we treat them like they treat us. Shut your stupidass up. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Flop 2,443 Posted June 15, 2015 So how bad is it out there? How many officers have been gunned down by civilians?In 2014 there are 50 police officer shot to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® 7,339 Posted June 15, 2015 The way it seems to be open season on civilians I woulda thought that number would at least touch four digits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 12,420 Posted June 15, 2015 Warning: language Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheIncomparableLiamNeeson 189 Posted June 17, 2015 Total number of police killed per year has been going down for decades, basically cut in half since the 1970's, which is incredible considering our population growth since then.EDIT: link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 17, 2015 In 2014 there are 50 police officer shot to death.One officer or one civilian is too much! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 25,532 Posted June 17, 2015 Only civilian lives matter on this board.I'd like to think that is not true... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capologist 13,406 Posted June 17, 2015 I'd like to think that is not true...I was going to take it further than that but decided against it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andras 1,294 Posted June 17, 2015 I was going to take it further than that but decided against it...Shocking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Free Radical 3,459 Posted June 17, 2015 Caring about the United States being the country with by far with the highest rate of lethal force used by police on civilians != not caring about police officers dying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Free Radical 3,459 Posted June 17, 2015 This is what amazes me about those who always jump against those who speak out against police killings. They act is if caring about the fact that the United States has by far and away the highest use of deadly force against civilians in the western world takes away from caring about police officers killed in the line of duty. As if the average person just has a limited amount of sympathy to expend, and caring about this subject somehow means that they don't care about police officers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
