LookAboutFalcon Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Why half *** it, if this is going to be a complete rebuild? Lets get a huge haul for them while they are in their primes. I wouldn't be surprised if they are traded in season, or during the next off season. I would absolutely hate to lose them, seeing as they are the only good players on the team. But to start a new, we need to trade the remaining good players from the old regime.And fire Fredi Gonzales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy84 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 They are both young enought that they will just be coming into their prime when the new stadium is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkey9 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I would be extremely upset if either was traded also. Maybe they should also trade Teheran because he was part of the old regime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yep, get rid of anyone Wren ever brought in since we seem to hate his every move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Trade em, might as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yep, get rid of anyone Wren ever brought in since we seem to hate his every moveFreeman was part of Schuerholtz's last draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 ......Freeman and Simmons are signed to team friendly deals. What do people not understand about these trades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 ......Freeman and Simmons are signed to team friendly deals. What do people not understand about these trades?So were Kimbrel and Gattis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Gattis is a DH type player and already baseball old for catching. We didn't have a position for him. We did him a favor trading him to an AL team. That probably added 3 years to his career. His body was already showing strain last year from catching and he was a horrible left fielder. Did everyone forget his dl stints last year?Kimbrel was a luxury. Now he can be on a contender and his pitching mean something. Great closers are wasted on anything but playoff teams. We did him a favor also.Why is this so hard to grasp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Gattis is a DH type player and already baseball old for catching. We didn't have a position for him. We did him a favor trading him to an AL team. That probably added 3 years to his career. His body was already showing strain last year from catching and he was a horrible left fielder. Did everyone forget his dl stints last year?Kimbrel was a luxury. Now he can be on a contender and his pitching mean something. Great closers are wasted on anything but playoff teams. We did him a favor also.Why is this so hard to grasp?We had the second fewest runs in the NL last year and Kimbrel still led the league in saves. Acting like we will be out of 90 games this year is ludicrous.Gattis platooning with Bethancourt would have been just fine, and have given us a great bench bat to pinch hit when we needed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Freeman, face of the franchise. Simmons, 25 year old defensive ace under team friendly contract until he's 32. Did you not see Bethancourt call a gem and gun down the league leader in stolen bases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'd also like to point out that they've said from the start that this was going to be a partial rebuild. Hart said something to the effect that he could do a complete tear down rebuild in Cleveland since the fans wouldn't care up there but if he did the same here (ie. get rid of literally everyone) then the fans would riot. They moved players in contract years (eg. Justin, Heyward), were in limbo in terms of starting roles (eg. Gattis), moved some non-essential players to get some extra prospects and free up roster spots (eg. Hale, La Stella), and made a sacrifice to get rid of Melvin (eg. Kimbrel), all to rebuild a farm system which they said from the start was their focus to rebuild and to create better financial flexibility in terms of signing players. They have left a young corps of players (Freeman, Simmons, Teheran, Wood, etc.) to build around, signed Markakis because he can be useful on and off the field during this transition, and signed players who can be placeholders until the prospects develop and/or who fill roles that can become valuable in trade towards the deadline (ie. Grilli, Johnson).We have gone from arguably the worst farm system in MLB to one of the healthiest in one offseason, we are loaded in terms of top 50 draft picks and international spending cap, our front office is now loaded with highly regarded scouts and talent developers, we can more easily spend money in free agency and extensions after this season, and we still have plenty of top notch young veterans to build around. It's just a matter of being patient now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I can't wait for the draft. The Braves have like 6 or 7 picks in the top 83 and it's going to be fun to see who we land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Freeman, face of the franchise. Simmons, 25 year old defensive ace under team friendly contract until he's 32. Did you not see Bethancourt call a gem and gun down the league leader in stolen bases?That's why Gattis and Betancourt is a good platoon. If it's the 9th inning and you need someone at the plate, you could've pinched Gattis. And Gattis is serviceable for Bethancourts off days, because believe either or not, he won't play every game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 So were Kimbrel and GattisI honestly hope you are trying to just rustle feathers and are not really this baseball illiterate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 That's why Gattis and Betancourt is a good platoon. If it's the 9th inning and you need someone at the plate, you could've pinched Gattis. And Gattis is serviceable for Bethancourts off days, because believe either or not, he won't play every gameYou do not pinch hit for your catcher if you only have 1 other on the roster, every manager lives by this mantra. It's common sense, try to exercise a bit of it instead of just complaining and crying in every post you make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I can't wait for the draft. The Braves have like 6 or 7 picks in the top 83 and it's going to be fun to see who we land.Our farm system is going to be beyond stocked. Considering it jumped from around 30th to top 10 in 1 offseason is pretty impressive. I get what Hart is doing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) You do not pinch hit for your catcher if you only have 1 other on the roster, every manager lives by this mantra. It's common sense, try to exercise a bit of it instead of just complaining and crying in every post you make.if Gattis was on the team we'd have a third catcher, crazy right? Edited April 7, 2015 by McNulty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Dude, most of the pundits are universally praising the move. Let it go...it's done and the Braves did real well to get what they got. If you don't like it so much, stop watching: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Our farm system is going to be beyond stocked. Considering it jumped from around 30th to top 10 in 1 offseason is pretty impressive. I get what Hart is doing...Other teams notice as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 if Gattis was on the team we'd have a third catcher, crazy right?If you're saying they would still have AJ then I'd say you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Dude, most of the pundits are universally praising the move. Let it go...it's done and the Braves did real well to get what they got. If you don't like it so much, stop watching:Because I don't like it I'm supposed to stop watching? Sorry man, get over it, I'm not praising Hart like everyone else here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNulty Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If you're saying they would still have AJ then I'd say you're wrong.Last year we carried Laird, Gattis and Doumit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Because Gattis could be used in the field according to Fredi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Last year we carried Laird, Gattis and DoumitAnd 2 of those 3 could play multiple positions.There's a difference between carrying 2 catchers and 1 utility (emergency catcher). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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