Jump to content

How Confident Are You In Our *entire* Fo Draft Team?


Recommended Posts

Matthews-LT for the next 10 years

Hegeman- looks to have high potential

Southward- potential wild card

Freeman- the next Terrell Davis let some of yall tell it

Shembo- decent year, moving back to his natural position

Spruill- my personal dark horse to be a contributor this year on D/ST

That's 4 possible starters for next year and all could be +players at their positions and 2 more who could be good backups or more. I don't see much for Allen or Starr but they're still around.

TD doesn't have the best track record himself and neither does Pioli, but it seems they teamed up pretty nicely. Add in Quinn's insight and I'm feeling unseasonably hopeful for this upcoming draft.

How are y'all feeling overall right now? Does a good haul(and subsequent winning record) qualm all the fire TD sentiments "for good"?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Honestly the biggest wild card is Quinn and his staff. None of us really know if it was a draft issue or a player development issue or both. But our biggest weakness over the years is Quinn's strength, developing pass rushers. So give it a few years and we'll see what happens.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Honestly the biggest wild card is Quinn and his staff. None of us really know if it was a draft issue or a player development issue or both. But our biggest weakness over the years is Quinn's strength, developing pass rushers. So give it a few years and we'll see what happens.

Naw man after 8 yrs please stop crying player development. I'm tried of hearing scheme and player development. You can't make chicken salad out pf chicken sh!+

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Honestly, if Pioli is in charge of upping the defensive talent in the draft I think we are in good hands, combine that with Quinn being able to develop the DL and pass rushers and I think you'll see a very good draft this year.

I think this is the first draft in a long time that might turn out better than it seems at first, versus years past when we knew it was bad from the get go and were proven right.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought the question was about the current FO, which includes Quinn and Pioli. If it's about Dimi, I have no confidence in him at all. And no I don't believe the player development myth. Smitty and crew did a decent job developing Ryan, Tru, Peters, Quizz, Beer, Julio, Lofton, WillyMo, Hawley, Spoon, Vance, Jake, DeCoud, Dougle and even Hageman.

Truth be told, Smitty did a helluva job going 56-24 in his first five years, including two division titles, five back to backs, four playoff berths, two thirteen win seasons and an NFCCG appearance. Only NE won more games over that stretch. But that was when the team was stocked with McKay/Reeves players in starting and key reserve roles. As soon as he had to field teams with primarily Dimi players, he crashed and burned, to the tune of 10-22.

Dimi built one of the worst Olines in franchise history and never found a competent edge rusher. He depleted the LB corps down to UDFAs, and found only one decent corner, after several tries. His only low round gem was a punter (jury still out on Free). His claim to fame is offensive skill players and that about it. No. No confidence at all. I'm so glad he's been neutered. He should have been fired last year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm confident. Last year's offseason was pretty good. Now that he has a good coach who can spot and develop talent, it makes a GM's job easier. He also has Pioli.

A GM is just a personal grocery shopper. The HC is the chef in charge of requesting what he needs for his master recipe. TD's finally got a master chef with a recipe he knows how to cook.

tl;dr I don't think highly of GM's to begin with. I think they're only as good as their HC's.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm confident. Last year's offseason was pretty good. Now that he has a good coach who can spot and develop talent, it makes a GM's job easier. He also has Pioli.

A GM is just a personal grocery shopper. The HC is the chef in charge of requesting what he needs for his master recipe. TD's finally got a master chef with a recipe he knows how to cook.

tl;dr I don't think highly of GM's to begin with. I think they're only as good as their HC's.

How the hail did we go 56-24 with Smitty as our chef from 2008-2012?
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm completely confident that no one except the Falcon Organization has control on what they do based on what the teams ahead of them do. I am

also confident that no matter who they draft has to improve the overall performance of the team. I am also confident that no one including the Falcons Organization will know

how the FA's or Draft choices will work out until the actual season is in progress. It's kind of like jumping off the Titanic before it even reaches the Ice Berg to conclude whatever

decisions they make in the draft is a pass or fail . Quinn and his coaching staff deserves a chance to build the team they want. So even after the draft I prefer to wait until the season gets here

and see the team in action before jumping to conclusions. The final results is what counts not what's happening now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Folks don't understand Pioli and TD are joined at the hip. This is the same Scouting Dept. that rarely drafted studs between rounds 3-7, stayed away from SEC players for the most part and denied it, rarely evaluated and drafted good in state prospects etc. TD is due for a great draft, after having what some think is one of the most talent depleted rosters in the NFL. But I'm afraid TD is too arrogant and stubborn to see he has wallowed in mediocrity for years. Most think DQ can help change our Draft's. I just hope TD rises up and have a great draft 1-7 rounds and UDFA's.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

At Cornell University, they have a piece of equipment called a tunnelling electron microscope. It's so powerful it can actually see inside the atom, the infinitesimal building blocks of life. If I was using that microscope right now, I still wouldn't be able to locate my confidence in this front office.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm completely confident that no one except the Falcon Organization has control on what they do based on what the teams ahead of them do. I am

also confident that no matter who they draft has to improve the overall performance of the team. I am also confident that no one including the Falcons Organization will know

how the FA's or Draft choices will work out until the actual season is in progress. It's kind of like jumping off the Titanic before it even reaches the Ice Berg to conclude whatever

decisions they make in the draft is a pass or fail . Quinn and his coaching staff deserves a chance to build the team they want. So even after the draft I prefer to wait until the season gets here

and see the team in action before jumping to conclusions. The final results is what counts not what's happening now.

I feel your confidence and willingness to wait and see how the draft turns out and see where we are when the regular season starts. There's no doubt in my mind that 1.) Quinn will have a big say in who we pick, 2.) Quinn is a much better talent evaluator than TD, 3.) Even if the players Quinn/Pioli/TD pick get off to a slow start, Quinn and his coaching staff will improve their play and put them in the best position to win.

The one thing we have to keep in mind is that Quinn is viewing this draft as the first of at least two or three where he will be molding the roster to his style of player. He's looking at getting this team in play-off contention by the time the team goes into the new dome for its full season, not necessarily getting them to the play-offs this year. I'm sure he'd like that quick success, but I'm more sure he's looking at this draft as a start, not a draft that will provide all the missing pieces to become a top-tier team again this season.

With the problems in the NFC South and us having a potent offense, we could certainly make the play-offs this season, but it we don't it won't necessarily mean we aren't heading in the right direction as quickly as we should be. As far as confidence in our draft team, TD is the weak link, but he's been subordinated to a lesser role and I think his negative influence will be minimal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ever hear the saying too many cooks in the Kitchen?

Kinda how I feel with the front office. I'm just hoping they actually do whip up a masterpiece

What I'm hoping is that Pioli is Gordon Ramsey, and Dimi is the hapless wannabe fry-cook being yelled at for burning the risotto.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We will see what happens but i feel like we have had 2 solid drafts (including UDFA) ... Our problem is that we have had a draft year like 2012 where its just a wash , thru all these years until recently we have drafted solid guys (low ceilings) , and we havnt tken a freaking pass rusher in the first 3 rounds .... some on TD and some on the previous coaching staff approach.

.I am looking for a little different approach this year with basically Quinn telling the FO what he is looking for.... Pioli running the draft board and the rankings of the draft board (TD will have some input im sure) and TD making the pick based off Piolis rankings and Quinns approach to the team

At the end of the its about finding us impact players... We have lacked that .. I will say that guys like Alford, Hageman, and Southward has us going after guys with high ceilings if they can get coached up ... Normally we didnt do that ... Or draft a like Prince Shembo (a guy i like more now then i did when we drafted him) thats talented but had a bif incident in college.

Lets see how this draft turns out tho

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I feel your confidence and willingness to wait and see how the draft turns out and see where we are when the regular season starts. There's no doubt in my mind that 1.) Quinn will have a big say in who we pick, 2.) Quinn is a much better talent evaluator than TD, 3.) Even if the players Quinn/Pioli/TD pick get off to a slow start, Quinn and his coaching staff will improve their play and put them in the best position to win.

The one thing we have to keep in mind is that Quinn is viewing this draft as the first of at least two or three where he will be molding the roster to his style of player. He's looking at getting this team in play-off contention by the time the team goes into the new dome for its full season, not necessarily getting them to the play-offs this year. I'm sure he'd like that quick success, but I'm more sure he's looking at this draft as a start, not a draft that will provide all the missing pieces to become a top-tier team again this season.

With the problems in the NFC South and us having a potent offense, we could certainly make the play-offs this season, but it we don't it won't necessarily mean we aren't heading in the right direction as quickly as we should be. As far as confidence in our draft team, TD is the weak link, but he's been subordinated to a lesser role and I think his negative influence will be minimal.

But we have Ryan Julio and a weak schedule so we should win 10-13 games right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...