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Alvin "Bud" Dupree

6'4" 269lbs

4.56 40yd dash

42" Vert

Macon, Ga

Falcon Fan

STRENGTHS: Productive pass rusher whose success stems from his physical gifts and technique. Has long arms, a quick burst, the flexibility to turn the corner and an explosive burst to close when the ballcarrier is near. Varies his rush moves, lulling opponents with one speed and surprising with an occasional extra burst to generate big plays at critical moments.

Locates the ball quickly and is passionate in pursuit, making some big hits when he gets there.

Often asked to drop and has some instincts in coverage. Has good lateral agility to slip bigger, slower opponents and the understanding of leverage to get under their pads and to create a pile to plug-up the action. Touted as a strong leader on and off the field.

WEAKNESSES:Lacks functional football strength. Struggles to rip free once engaged. Relies on his agility and savvy to slip by would-be blockers. Rarely physically breaks the grasp of blockers once engaged. Rarely gets his hands up to cloud the vision of quarterbacks. Sometimes takes wide angles in pursuit, giving up extra yardage.

COMPARES TO: Kamerion Wimbley, Tennessee Titans -- Has a blend of length and burst to enjoy a long, productive career as an NFL edge rusher. To achieve his full potential and become an every-down player, he'll need to get stronger in run support.

http://youtu.be/TlAayCoZrR8

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alvin-dupree-1.html

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Alvin "Bud" Dupree

6'4" 269lbs

4.56 40yd dash

42" Vert

Macon, Ga

Falcon Fan

STRENGTHS: Productive pass rusher whose success stems from his physical gifts and technique. Has long arms, a quick burst, the flexibility to turn the corner and an explosive burst to close when the ballcarrier is near. Varies his rush moves, lulling opponents with one speed and surprising with an occasional extra burst to generate big plays at critical moments.

Locates the ball quickly and is passionate in pursuit, making some big hits when he gets there.

Often asked to drop and has some instincts in coverage. Has good lateral agility to slip bigger, slower opponents and the understanding of leverage to get under their pads and to create a pile to plug-up the action. Touted as a strong leader on and off the field.

WEAKNESSES:Lacks functional football strength. Struggles to rip free once engaged. Relies on his agility and savvy to slip by would-be blockers. Rarely physically breaks the grasp of blockers once engaged. Rarely gets his hands up to cloud the vision of quarterbacks. Sometimes takes wide angles in pursuit, giving up extra yardage.

COMPARES TO: Kamerion Wimbley, Tennessee Titans -- Has a blend of length and burst to enjoy a long, productive career as an NFL edge rusher. To achieve his full potential and become an every-down player, he'll need to get stronger in run support.

http://youtu.be/TlAayCoZrR8

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alvin-dupree-1.html

Like Bud better than Gregory, I'd like to see them possibly do a Kentucky double dip at DE get Dupree 1 or 2 and Za'Darius Smith 3rd or 4th could happen with a trade down.

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what???? Bud and greg are the same? Because I'm not understanding your point here

Gregory isn't as good as people here think. Just has the best celebration. You bring up Bud and boom...he's not worth an 8th rounder, but Gregory is? How? Because a talking head told you so? Even Gregory's tape is wonky. Dupree's tape isn't wonky. I can tell you every issue. With Gregory there are issues, just ??? type issues.

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Gregory isn't as good as people here think. Just has the best celebration. You bring up Bud and boom...he's not worth an 8th rounder, but Gregory is? How? Because a talking head told you so? Even Gregory's tape is wonky. Dupree's tape isn't wonky. I can tell you every issue. With Gregory there are issues, just ??? type issues.

Both are cases of extreme athletic potential, that will have to be tapped and trained. It really comes down to who you think has more upside, b/c neither is really NFL ready imo.

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There are actually pass rushers, who will probably be selected after both of them, that are possibly more NFL ready for day one, as weird as that is.

I was thinking the same thing. Thing is, its kind of an issue of what we are going to do at 8. What makes sense and what does not.

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I was thinking the same thing. Thing is, its kind of an issue of what we are going to do at 8. What makes sense and what does not.

I'm taking the same approach that I did with FA, as in, I ain't predicting jack **** lol. I have no idea what this FO will do. tongue.png

It'll be interesting to see. Veterans have to agree to come to you, but you choose rookies, so this should give us a good barometer, for what they want to do, and where they're headed. smile.png

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Hypothetically, how far could we trade down and still get Dupree? I've seen him projected as high as 16. The more I think about this the more I think trading down is the answer. Let's assume Beasley is our guy. If he falls to 8 we take him. If he goes before, why would we not trade down? We have Quinn coaching defense who has had success with mid round talent, and Shannahan, who runs a system that typical values coaching over talent. Stocking up on picks considering our coaches do more with less approach seems to be the best option. If we can somehow turn our first 2 picks into 4 picks, why would we not tryM

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Hypothetically, how far could we trade down and still get Dupree? I've seen him projected as high as 16. The more I think about this the more I think trading down is the answer. Let's assume Beasley is our guy. If he falls to 8 we take him. If he goes before, why would we not trade down? We have Quinn coaching defense who has had success with mid round talent, and Shannahan, who runs a system that typical values coaching over talent. Stocking up on picks considering our coaches do more with less approach seems to be the best option. If we can somehow turn our first 2 picks into 4 picks, why would we not tryM

simply put because trading down is not as easy as most fans on here think it is. People see it happen during the draft and think to themselves why don't we do that? The reality is teams don't trade down other teams trade up. I challenge anyone to find an instance where a team traded down. It's always another team came calling with a decent offer and they accepted it.

I guarantee that if whoever our target is is gone at 8 and a team comes calling with an respectable offer TD will trade back.

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Gregory isn't as good as people here think. Just has the best celebration. You bring up Bud and boom...he's not worth an 8th rounder, but Gregory is? How? Because a talking head told you so? Even Gregory's tape is wonky. Dupree's tape isn't wonky. I can tell you every issue. With Gregory there are issues, just ??? type issues.

I personally feel like Gregory has more potential than Dupree. Other than weight he has the proto type build for a edge rusher. Plus watching him play he looks more of an athlete than a pass rusher which shows he's lacking technique. I think with proper coaching by someone like Quinn he can turn into a beast.

With Dupree I don't see his athleticism shown out on tape. He's basically the anti Paul Dawson. He's also a 5th year senior. I just don't like what I see when I watch him play.

I feel like we'll go with Gregory. He has the length that Quinn covets.

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Gregory isn't as good as people here think. Just has the best celebration. You bring up Bud and boom...he's not worth an 8th rounder, but Gregory is? How? Because a talking head told you so? Even Gregory's tape is wonky. Dupree's tape isn't wonky. I can tell you every issue. With Gregory there are issues, just ??? type issues.

Yep still no point to your comment. Except for you just having a emotion to not liking him because others here overhype him.

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I personally feel like Gregory has more potential than Dupree. Other than weight he has the proto type build for a edge rusher. Plus watching him play he looks more of an athlete than a pass rusher which shows he's lacking technique. I think with proper coaching by someone like Quinn he can turn into a beast.

With Dupree I don't see his athleticism shown out on tape. He's basically the anti Paul Dawson. He's also a 5th year senior. I just don't like what I see when I watch him play.

I feel like we'll go with Gregory. He has the length that Quinn covets.

I'm with you on this. I actually from a NFL talent/potential standpoint like Gregory better than Beasley or Ray. But his decision making process/stupidity is concerning.

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