Keep Hearing "rah Rah" Associated W/ Quinn

[chazbykr]

I don’t get this rah rah attitude from Quinn’s views. I see an applied science of sorts, as in finding out what his guys can do and setting them up for success. The most important statement I heard from him was "no excuses". I think we’ll see much more competition ongoing. Not favorites because of where they were drafted. Also schemes to match players instead of just cause coach wants what he wants and damm the results.

[DonDaLuvMaker]

I have no problem with a "rah rah" type of HC.

Just as long as that is not the only aspect to them.

Both Carroll and Rex have some rah rah tendencies, but they are still great coaching minds based on what they do best.

[insight]

He definitely has a Jim Mora, Raheem Morris vibe to him.

Most young coaches in the league outside of Mike Tomlin have that rah rah attitude.

I have no problem with it as long as he doesn't over do it like Jim Harbaugh.

[Tuggle'2]

I have no problem with a "rah rah" type of HC.

Just as long as that is not the only aspect to them.

Both Carroll and Rex have some rah rah tendencies, but they are still great coaching minds based on what they do best.

Right, I think he is a good mix of "rah rah" and disciplinarian. Not too much of either is good, but I think a good "balance" (to use his words) is the way to go.

Which is sort of the opposite of Smitty. Who I thought was disciplined in the way of going by his rule book and the idea of going outside of his perceived way to be was a big no no.

[DonDaLuvMaker]

Right, I think he is a good mix of "rah rah" and disciplinarian. Not too much of either is good, but I think a good "balance" (to use his words) is the way to go.

Which is sort of the opposite of Smitty. Who I thought was disciplined in the way of going by his rule book and the idea of going outside of his perceived way to be was a big no no.

Agree 100%

As long as the rah rah is balanced out with good coaching philosophy and discipline instilled into the team, then everything is good to go.

Balance is the key.

[Francis York Morgan]

I wouldn't call him rah-rah at all, actually. I'd call him more...enthusiastic dad. The dad who's real fun and might make a dumb pun every now and then, but you don't want to mess with him, and you definitely never want to let him down.

Dad Quinn?

[Tuggle'2]

I wouldn't call him rah-rah at all, actually. I'd call him more...enthusiastic dad. The dad who's real fun and might make a dumb pun every now and then, but you don't want to mess with him, and you definitely never want to let him down.

Dad Quinn?

Haha!

He does and that is a very good analogy. lol

[DonDaLuvMaker]

I wouldn't call him rah-rah at all, actually. I'd call him more...enthusiastic dad. The dad who's real fun and might make a dumb pun every now and then, but you don't want to mess with him, and you definitely never want to let him down.

Dad Quinn?

I really like that analogy.

[chazbykr]

Right, I think he is a good mix of "rah rah" and disciplinarian. Not too much of either is good, but I think a good "balance" (to use his words) is the way to go.

Which is sort of the opposite of Smitty. Who I thought was disciplined in the way of going by his rule book and the idea of going outside of his perceived way to be was a big no no.

Yeah my take on Smitty was that he was a good coach; but was also coached; by TD. which he went with because he was hand picked by TD.

[Jarod_Briggs2]

Just win baby

[Tuggle'2]

Yeah my take on Smitty was that he was a good coach; but was also coached; by TD. which he went with because he was hand picked by TD.

I really like the guy. I do think it was definitely time to move on, but I did and do like him. His approach to coaching was very level headed and calm. Something that is good at times, but these guys do need more sometimes.

[JayOzOne]

I don't see him as 'rah-rah' either. I see him as a man who is 100% confident in his method and the fact that he makes players better endears them to him. I sense that the best player is the one who is going to see the field and that makes everybody practice harder with the promise that hard work pays off. I can easily see someone with a big contract being cut if a hungrier player shows that he smells what Quinn is cooking up.

[chazbykr]

I don't see him as 'rah-rah' either. I see him as a man who is 100% confident in his method and the fact that he makes players better endears them to him. I sense that the best player is the one who is going to see the field and that makes everybody practice harder with the promise that hard work pays off. I can easily see someone with a big contract being cut if a hungrier player shows that he smells what Quinn is cooking up.

Exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it so much better lol.

[HOYLE]

It was obvious we had no team chemistry on defense for what was

most of the Mike Smith era. Smitty led us out of a nasty mess

but he did it without excelling in his own area of expertise. He hired

Nolan, who should have been a good hire, and it cost him his job.

Now comes Quinn and he has brought in a few of his guys on the

cheap and hopes to improve "the atmosphere" on defense. He hopes

to instill a style of play that has been lacking. Tackling should improve,

d-linemen should use their hands better and I hope get them up in the

passing lanes. He is going to be intentional about building some of the

chemistry and desire we have seen in Seattle. It will take some rah-rah.

What we don't want to see is 11 guys playing two hand touch and just

missing deflections, interceptions, tackles and sacks. We have had that.

Edited March 31, 2015 by HOYLE

[JayOzOne]

Yeah, last year it seemed like everybody was playing defense without thinking about what everybody else was doing around him. If your job is to contain and you shoot into the backfield to make a tackle, one cut can break that containment and lead to big yards. We need a cohesive defense, not a bunch of one-on-one superstars. That's what Durant was saying about 'closeness' being what would make or break this squad.

[SyCo]

Yeah my take on Smitty was that he was a good coach; but was also coached; by TD. which he went with because he was hand picked by TD.

I didn't sense that at all. my only beef with td is he trusted smith more than he should have.

[4dabirds]

I like the Quinn hiring, but realistically the bar is very high for him when you consider how well Mike Smith did in his first year, especially when you factor in that Smith went to the playoffs with a mediocre D and a rookie QB. Quinn can be as upbeat/Rah Rah as he can, but he is inheriting a team with a very good QB, and a few legit offensive weapons, but if he can't turn the D around immediately then it will not look good for him.

[Vandy]

I like Quinn, he was my 1st choice from the start, certainly ahead of Rex 'Jerry Glanville' Ryan.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether the coach is "rah rah" or a quiet disciplinarian, if you don't have talented players, you won't win. Falcons had the least talent defensively in NFL last season.

[JayOzOne]

Smitty was a good coach. His problem was failing to realize that the league constantly evolves and you have to either evolve with it or before it in order to last. He coached his last two years like he coached the first five, basing game planning on elements that were no longer present on the team. Specifically, Michael Turner. Having lost a reliable 4+ YPC running back, the offense never accounted for the lack of balance.

Quinn strikes me as somebody who will keep his ear to the ground for changes outside his team and incorporate innovations for changes inside. I can imagine he and his former bosses trading ideas and learning what's coming down the pike before most other coaches know to be ready for it. I hope I'm right about him.

[Vandy]

Smitty was a good coach. His problem was failing to realize that the league constantly evolves and you have to either evolve with it or before it in order to last. He coached his last two years like he coached the first five, basing game planning on elements that were no longer present on the team. Specifically, Michael Turner. Having lost a reliable 4+ YPC running back, the offense never accounted for the lack of balance.

I think that same true criticism could/should also be assigned to TD as well, in ignoring the fact that Gonzo/Abe/Turner et al were getting old and not looking for suitable younger replacements until after age caught up with them...

[FentayeJones]

I dont get a rah rah vibe from DQ at all. I see a passionate coach that know how to motivate and connect with players.

[JayOzOne]

I think that same true criticism could/should also be assigned to TD as well, in ignoring the fact that Gonzo/Abe/Turner et al were getting old and not looking for suitable younger replacements until after age caught up with them...

Turner aged quickly, maybe too quick to account for. I don't think we could replace Gonzo for the way Ryan used him; I thought that Douglas would have taken his catches last season but that didn't happen. I suspect we let Abe go for non-football reasons.

But with all that being said, you are 100% correct. It's one thing to build a good team. A really good GM makes sure it stays at that level. Nobody should think otherwise.

[Moist Words]

I just see him as super enthusiastic about football in general.We've all worked with that dude who seems way too enthusiastic about the job but he is really good at it and moves up through the ranks really quickly.

I like that part if his style myself I just wouldn't want to talk to him before my first cup of coffee.

[DonDaLuvMaker]

Turner aged quickly, maybe too quick to account for. I don't think we could replace Gonzo for the way Ryan used him; I thought that Douglas would have taken his catches last season but that didn't happen. I suspect we let Abe go for non-football reasons.

But with all that being said, you are 100% correct. It's one thing to build a good team. A really good GM makes sure it stays at that level. Nobody should think otherwise.

Turner had some of the highest amount of carries by a RB in the NFL throughout his best years under the Falcons I believe.

He also became lazy in terms of conditioning, both had an impact on his production as he got to the age 30.

[JayOzOne]

Tuner had some of the highest amount of carries by a RB in the NFL throughout his best years under the Falcons I believe.

He also became lazy in terms of conditioning, both had an impact on his production as he got to the age 30.

And Smitty didn't trust Snelling enough to give him 10-14 carries out game. If Turner had fewer 100 totes for his last two seasons, he might have given us two more.