datchrisb1 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Okay, we all have heard our penalty will be severe. I have heard talks of it being a 2nd or 3rd round pick. D Led said last Monday it would probably be a pick in 2015 2nd rounder, Peter King said later that week can't remember which day but I heard it on 92.9 that it could be a pick in 2016. Scenario- we lose a high draft pick in 2016 draft. 1. Tampa- Jameis Winston QB 2. Tennessee- Marcus Mariota QB 3. Jacksonville- Leonard Williams DL 4. Oakland- Dante Fowler DE/OLB 5. Washington- Vic Beasley OLB 6. NY. Jets- Shane Ray DE/OLB 7. Chicago- Kevin White WR 1st- Atlanta- Arik Armstead DE (Oregon)- Best FOOTBALL player on the board at a position of need. He can do everything we need as a DE, and has the flexibility to play any position along our defensive front. Great in run support and can rush the passer better than anybody left on the board. 2nd- Preston Smith DE (Mississippi State)- I think we need way more talent up front. As far as free agency, we picked up 2 veteran 4-3 linebackers. I don't see them going with a high pick there, we also picked up some O-lineman and the great thing about zone blocking is you don't really have to invest high draft picks in the O-line to get the personnel needed for that. Smith can C-gap for us, set the edge, rush the passer and besides we need the talent at the position. Third- Cedric Ogbuehi OT (Texas A&M)- I love how fast he can get to the second level in run support, he has great feet. Ogbuehi would be a great fit in Shanahans' system if he is still on the board. Fourth- Zach Hodges DE/OLB (Harvard)- Situational guy who could develop into something more. He could be a great stand out special teams guy for us early, develop into a great DE at the LEO position, at the least a legitimate rotational guy in Quinn's system. Fifth- Karlos Williams RB (Florida St)- I see him fitting in our new scheme. Decent vision but I love the way he puts his fit in the ground when he does decide to run down hill. Sixth- Ellis McCarthy DT (UCLA)- Strong at the point of attack. He basically a man mover up front, the type of guys we need a knuckle dragging chogladyte up front. Seventh- Josh Robinson RB (Mississippi State)- Another down hill guy to add to the stable of running backs. Comp pick- Derrick Malone LB/S (Oregon)- Great at diagnosing plays early. I see him eventually being somewhat of a Kemel Ishmael for us, basically could consider him a steal at the tell end of the seventh because of what he does do for us but at the end of the day is a great standout stud on special teams. Edited March 29, 2015 by datchrisb1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I will punch a human child if we take f*cking Arik Armstead with the 8th round pick and follow it up with Preston Smith. This coming from someone who likes them both an awful lot. We'd at least better trade down if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 I will punch a human child if we take f*cking Arik Armstead with the 8th round pick and follow it up with Preston Smith. This coming from someone who likes them both an awful lot. We'd at least better trade down if that's the case. LOL!!! I was looking at the draft order and just considering the most likely scenario, I think at the end of the day at pick 8 we will be staring at Dupree, Gregory, Armstead and whoever. Armstead is a beast man, he's a better pass rusher, better player overall than Dupree so I picked him. Gregory has the whole falcon filter working against him. Didn't want to go with another position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Reading this mock gave me AIDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 LOL!!! I was looking at the draft order and just considering the most likely scenario, I think at the end of the day at pick 8 we will be staring at Dupree, Gregory, Armstead and whoever. Armstead is a beast man, he's a better pass rusher, better player overall than Dupree so I picked him. Gregory has the whole falcon filter working against him. Didn't want to go with another position.He's really good, but he's not going to be able to beat LTs on the regular, and if we draft Preston Smith on top of everyone else our LE situation is going to be pretty packed with very little at the LEO. A lot of people compare him to Calais Campbell but he's not the athlete Campbell is...he's his own monster. Just don't like having so many players fighting for one DE and only a couple decent ones at the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I could get on board with this mock, but i think its overkill. Hageman and Armstead would be fantastic to have beside each other in nickel situations, but Smith is also a better interior rusher than he is on the outside so that kinda devalues him. If you take Armstead in the 1st then you may as well go for another position in the 2nd. I actually understand the logic of targeting a possibly LEO later. I wouldn't be opposed to Hodges or Frank Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtech1 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hey datchris, you know Armstead had 4 sacks in his college career, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Oh my god. I just threw up a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 i think you forgot were not running a 3-4 anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Id be ok with it.... As long as we draft Dupree instead of Armstead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 i think you forgot were not running a 3-4 anymoreHe can play 4-3 if you are referring to Armstead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hey datchris, you know Armstead had 4 sacks in his college career, right? I like what I see in him, he can set the edge, and can do everything we need in a pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I would give someone $100, if they can flat out show me straight up that Bud Dupree is a better DE in a 4-3 than Armstead.... You guys are sleeping on this dude man, which is understandable, this whole message board is infatuated with combine numbers, flow charts, and pretty much any workout warrior you can find. http://draftbreakdown.com/players/arik-armstead/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 He can play 4-3 if you are referring to Armstead.WTF? He's projected as a 3-4 DT.....also projected late 1st, early 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 WTF? He's projected as a 3-4 DT.....also projected late 1st, early 2nd round.WTF? He's projected as a 3-4 DT.....also projected late 1st, early 2nd round. No, he's projected to be able to play both and it depends on who you go off of as far as rankings. Put on the tape and you tell me why he has no business playing DE in a 4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 No, he's projected to be able to play both and it depends on who you go off of as far as rankings. Put on the tape and you tell me why he has no business playing DE in a 4-3.The tape does not suggest in any form he should be the 8th pick in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 The tape does not suggest in any form he should be the 8th pick in the draft. That's what I don't get, I know with you saying that you didn't even look at it. Just open, general, no substance too it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconofShadows Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's what I don't get, I know with you saying that you didn't even look at it. Just open, general, no substance too it.His tape aline shows he is nothing more then a LDE who will bebetter at setting the edge in the run game then rushing the passer he is a mid to late first rounder who wont be a dominate pass rusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 His tape aline shows he is nothing more then a LDE who will bebetter at setting the edge in the run game then rushing the passer he is a mid to late first rounder who wont be a dominate pass rusherDude is a beast, you tripping... Where's the beef? Nothing but opinion, not trying to disrespect your opinion but his TAPE is what shows you that he has the capability of being a dominate pass rusher in the NFL. If you told me Alvin Dupree's tape doesn't show that you would be saying something, but his tape is what shows you that. His body type is what goes against convention. He's 6'7 292 lbs, but his tape definitely shows you that he could play in a 4-3 and give you a strong anchor in the running game and give you double digit sacks on a good year, generate that pressure needed. He dominates the man in front of him regardless of passing or running downs, he shows the agility needed to rush on the outside but because he is a complete football player he can do anything and everything you need in a DE in a 4-3. He can rush outside, inside, can play any position along the defensive front on any down really. His TAPE is what shows all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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