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Is anyone else concerned that 7 of the 11 Free Agents signed were signed to 1 yr contracts? It makes me wonder what the long term strategy is.

While I understand the benefit of a 1 yr prove it contract, next off-season we will have re-sign or replace these 7 guys we signed this yr plus the other FAs that were already coming up next yr. This might be a fine strategy but there is only so much talent available in a given off-season. Are we so confident we will be able to draft/develop next years roster this year that we only need a 1 yr stop gap player? Just bc we have money and roster spots available doesn't mean there will be 10+ quality free agents available. Maybe I am being Chicken Little but I don't see a commitment to a long term plan.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/atlanta-falcons/

Other concern is that we brought in multiple FAs this year that decided not to play for us. Eg.... D Morgan, R. Housler, Lance Kendricks, Ron Parker, Darian Stewart.

It is just about the money or is there a crack in our long term vision?

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Simple strategy really.

Build through the draft and get those short term prove yourself guys as stop gaps.

Every year there is gonna be a guy comming off an injury or getting a second chance at redemption and those guys will be fighters. just the type Quinn likes

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Quinn already explained this. You build through the Draft and not through Free Agency.

My thoughts: We signed a bunch of one year deals as insurance, not as long term solutions. Quinn wants to see if some of our existing guys can step up, but he signed some low risk/high reward guys to one year deals in case they can't.

If our existing guys step up (Bartu, Goodman, Maponga, Shembo, Spruill, Starr, Warrilow) and prove they can fit the system, we cut some of the 1 year deal guys with minimal cap damage.

It is a good strategy.

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1 year deals

If they suck or get hurt they leave

If they stay healthy and ball out we resign them

Build through the draft, why does everyone want to go crazy in FA

  1. If they stay healthy and ball out we resign them (At a much more expensive contract, Either we believe in the player or not. Buy Low, Sell High. The health is a craps shoot Unless your talking about S Baker. Then it is a little more predictable lol.)
  2. Build through the draft, why does everyone want to go crazy in FA. (Is there a middle ground between "going crazy" and having to rebuild your team every year?) We now have 16 Free Agents next off season. You can't fill them thru the draft. Even if you exceed expectations and have 5 contributing players in draft, you still we need to find 11 quality free agents)
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1 year deals make perfect sense for a new coach in a new place trying to figure out what kind of players he has on the 53 man roster. This time next year, Quinn will know exactly what he and what he needs - sure he has a decent idea now but you cannot simulate from watching film what you can gain in knowledge after having coached these players for an entire season.

The 1 year deals motivate those players while keeping the HC/GM options flexible to remake the team more the following season.

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Is anyone else concerned that 7 of the 11 Free Agents signed were signed to 1 yr contracts? It makes me wonder what the long term strategy is.

While I understand the benefit of a 1 yr prove it contract, next off-season we will have re-sign or replace these 7 guys we signed this yr plus the other FAs that were already coming up next yr. This might be a fine strategy but there is only so much talent available in a given off-season. Are we so confident we will be able to draft/develop next years roster this year that we only need a 1 yr stop gap player? Just bc we have money and roster spots available doesn't mean there will be 10+ quality free agents available. Maybe I am being Chicken Little but I don't see a commitment to a long term plan.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/atlanta-falcons/

Other concern is that we brought in multiple FAs this year that decided not to play for us. Eg.... D Morgan, R. Housler, Lance Kendricks, Ron Parker, Darian Stewart.

It is just about the money or is there a crack in our long term vision?

The strategy: Next Off-season drama!! laugh.png

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TD is all over the place. Quinn will be a victim of TD's errant moves.

He comes out publicly claiming signing Spoon is a priority then lets him walk to AZ for peanuts.

He signs a player Godfrey to 1.5 million dollars contract who did not even contribute last year.

He cuts Mass, Blalock, Douglas and doesn't resign Corey Peters even though we are miles under the cap.

Every player he signed has a major injury history with the exception of Reed.

Kroy and Baker are still here!

They now broadcast out we need to lock up Julio even though that's not an immediate priority.

Yes, it's easy to say that this plan is not finished yet. How can you criticize TD without allowing him to finish building the team?

The last two off-seasons have shown me all I need to see. I wish I was wrong but being a long time Falcon fan tells me will find a way to screw it up.

To be fair, our talent pool was raided!

We lost allot of front office talent after 2012. There is no question that this is a big reason why things have fallen apart.

We lost Les Sneed director of player personnel to St Louis.

We lost David Caldwell #2 man under TD to Jacksonville.

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We were never going to overspend on the big names, but I am disappointed that we couldn't find at least a couple of good 2nd tier guys that we could build around. The cheap 1 year deals make sense, but I would have hoped that they would supplement a couple of bigger moves. I hate to be negative, but I also think that losing HD, Spoon and Peters was a mistake.

I suspect that we had a couple of bigger moves in mind (Morgan and Orakpo possible) but simply missed out on them and everyone else on the process - although i do wonder if it is possible that a Quinn just wants to take a year to see what we have.

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TD is all over the place. Quinn will be a victim of TD's errant moves.

He comes out publicly claiming signing Spoon is a priority then lets him walk to AZ for peanuts.

He signs a player Godfrey to 1.5 million dollars contract who did not even contribute last year.

He cuts Mass, Blalock, Douglas and doesn't resign Corey Peters even though we are miles under the cap.

Every player he signed has a major injury history with the exception of Reed.

Kroy and Baker are still here!

They now broadcast out we need to lock up Julio even though that's not an immediate priority.

Yes, it's easy to say that this plan is not finished yet. How can you criticize TD without allowing him to finish building the team?

The last two off-seasons have shown me all I need to see. I wish I was wrong but being a long time Falcon fan tells me will find a way to screw it up.

To be fair, our talent pool was raided!

We lost allot of front office talent after 2012. There is no question that this is a big reason why things have fallen apart.

We lost Les Sneed director of player personnel to St Louis.

We lost David Caldwell #2 man under TD to Jacksonville.

Yes because Dimi controls EVERYTHING and Quinn has no say, just shut up

spoon was mad

Godfrey fits what Quinn likes

STOP CRYING

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Yes because Dimi controls EVERYTHING and Quinn has no say, just shut up

spoon was mad

Godfrey fits what Quinn likes

STOP CRYING

SHUT UP, STOP CRYING, I'm in awe of your vast vocabulary!

I get tired of BLIND homers who have a temper tantrums just because someone doesn't share their viewpoint.

Did you even proof read you comments? "Spoon was mad" is the best explanation you can give for TD coming out publicly and stating Spoon was a top priority only to let him sign with AZ on a prove it deal two weeks later.

Why don't you look up how many games Godfrey played over the last 3 years? Ask yourself why Carolina would let go of Godfrey and roll with Thomas Decoud.

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If I draft a three star undersized defensive lineman from Missouri who is a ok athlete. And you draft a top tier offensive lineman who was a five star recruit from Alabama. I can coach my guy til the cows come home but you are going to whip my butt 9 times out of ten. For the last time. YOU DONT COACH UP IN THE NFL! This is failed GM talk. It is what GMs say when the people they have brought in are failing. NFL is like NBA you win with talent not coaches.

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If I draft a three star undersized defensive lineman from Missouri who is a ok athlete. And you draft a top tier offensive lineman who was a five star recruit from Alabama. I can coach my guy til the cows come home but you are going to whip my butt 9 times out of ten. For the last time. YOU DONT COACH UP IN THE NFL! This is failed GM talk. It is what GMs say when the people they have brought in are failing. NFL is like NBA you win with talent not coaches.

There are plenty of examples of guys getting to work with certain coaches and/or schemes and being totally different players. Putting guys in a position to be the best they can be IS how you win in the NFL.
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I think the Smitty regime has many of us fans stuck in a time capsule. I can't speak on Dimi this season until I see what he drafts and the differences in what smith liked and what quinn likes. If you pay attention Quinn is CLEAR about the type of pkayers he likes and I don't think I've EVER heard smith have a clear cut player tyoe for his system. THIS is where you will see the differnce. Quinn is tedious in identifying guys that fit what he likes. You always build thru the draft and NEVER thru FA. I believe you will see a difference in the players drafted this year. I just refuse to believe Dimi was forcing players on smith. I just don't. Not saying Dimi has no blame at all but the drafting is a result of what your HC wants for his system. To me smith was always a scatter brain nervous type guy. Quinn is a confident this is what it is type guy and you will see that in the draft this season.

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