rbad8717 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You have a semi successful company that has recently fallen on hard times. Luckily you have one solid but expensive product that is doing well despite the rest of the company is doing poo . Are you going to get rid tbat product for cheaper alternatives and risk destroying the only successful thing about your company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It's funny mentioning San Fran when they're going to be garbage this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/Redskins are one of few really bad teams with a lot of money tied up at WR. Aside from us.Guess that question should have been clarified because all those teams have at least 1 wr making 15+ already except green bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Just because they don't have one doesn't mean they wouldn't want one. That's the thing people miss. isn't. That my same argument against RBBC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 isn't. That my same argument against RBBC?Yes I do believe it is. It's a good argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Funny how nobody remembers Seattle give g huge contracts to Sidney rice and zack Miller. Guess they contributed so little that people just forgot about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Causation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxatlanta Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You need bargain players, either thru draft or savvy FA signings to win a SB. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pay to keep your own. How can so many not recognize that JULIO AFFECTS THE SCOREBOARD. We aren't cap strapped, we can keep him and still draft and sign more good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Are we not already paying Jones 10 mil this year? It's not like an extra 5 mil is gonna be a huge difference to our cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 So, you going to make this thread once a week? You might want to read the spam rules in the COC.Hey Peterpiper, guess who disagrees completely with you? Dan Quinn. He loves Jones and wants him re-signed. You know, the guy who has final say on the roster? With quotes like :“The things I’ve heard about him just in terms of the leader he’s become on and off the field, can’t wait to connect with him,” Quinn said, via ESPN.com. “For me, just to have the chance to start the process with him, I can’t wait. … We love great players, and we want to celebrate all the good guys that we have. We’re trying to collect more great players, not the other way around.” linky thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 No, these teams consistently go to SuperBowls and make play-offs without overpaying WRs. So why would we? Trade Julio to Tennesse and get Leonard Williams out of USC. We need an identity of toughness as a franchise and this guy brings it. Then use #8 pick to get OL out of Iowa or Perryman LB out Miami. We still have Hester, Roddy, and now Hankerson. All serviceable receivers. We don't need Julio. Julio will be constantly hurt throughout his career. Bank on it. And for all you people saying that we need Julio to sell tickets that is incorrect. Winning sells tickets. If Julio caught 14 TDs a year on a 5 to 7 win team no one cares. When we went to the SuperBowl we had Tony Martin and Terrance Mathis. But we played good defense and RAN the football. Back to basics.No, these teams don't have a max dollar receiver, but they do pay their best players the max dollars. Julio is one of the best players on the team, so to keep him you pay an above average salary. You can not rely on an aging Roddy...You can not put the pressure on Hester to be a number 2 (his crucial drops proved that last year), and Hankerson is not legit at all, he just looks the part. Not to mention, as of now the Falcons still have not proven that they can get by with a running game, which they can't. Also, the defense is still garbage until proven otherwise. So why would you trade away a legit scoring threat in the hopes that who you trade him for will actually match the same effort that Julio brings? Why would you do this in hopes that some rookies would come in and play lights out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You don't *need* an elite anything to win a SB, that's the only thing that's been proven as far as SB's go; no two teams win the same exact way.You talk about no two teams winning the same way but refuse to point out that there is a constant with Superbowl winners. A defense that doesn't blow it in the playoffs and decent quarterback play. Having those two gives you the best opportunities. If this front office showed they could build through the draft and craft a tough defense that way, I'd be all for paying Jones big money. I simply don't trust them to execute in such a way that makes the Falcons an exception to documented history. I'd love to be wrong but this front office has left a lot to be desired regarding team building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You need bargain players, either thru draft or savvy FA signings to win a SB. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pay to keep your own. How can so many not recognize that JULIO AFFECTS THE SCOREBOARD.We aren't cap strapped, we can keep him and still draft and sign more good players.Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You talk about no two teams winning the same way but refuse to point out that there is a constant with Superbowl winners. A defense that doesn't blow it in the playoffs and decent quarterback play. Having those two gives you the best opportunities.And you can have those things while still having a highly paid WR on the team. We were talking Elite players, yes? You don't absolutely need any single position on the team to be elite to win a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm disappointed the OP's trolling is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 First of all, giving up almost an entire Draft to aquire Jones was pure insanity. A WR will never be on the field enough to warrant that kind of outrageous cost.Next, to pay him a fortune to keep him around just continues the lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Seattle has GrahamDenver will pay Bey BeyGreen Bay has Jordy and Cobb which is more than what Julio would cost.I've no problem with Atlanta entertaining offers for Julio but if they accept one it better exceed what we gave up to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 hyperbole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It is because these franchises don't over spend at the WR and invest their money in their Lines, LBs, and TEs. That they are successful. If you do what you always do you get what you always get. I know it is cliché but success in football is built from inside out. O-line, D-line, TE's, LBs. This is where you spend your money. There are 1000s of serviceable receivers and RBs available. WR and RB is where you should spend least amount of money. Who is Green Bays RB? , New Englands? Denver? See a pattern? Money should be in o and d lines. First and foremost. Tight End?? So that's the secret formula!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkOffFalcohol Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Lol they all have compitent defenses too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 peter are you going to make this thread once a weekhttp://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4025289-falcons-do-not-need-to-re-sign-julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneOne01 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 And you can have those things while still having a highly paid WR on the team. We were talking Elite players, yes? You don't absolutely need any single position on the team to be elite to win a SB. All that I'm getting from your constant word playing is that you are a gambler. Your willing to gamble on this front office being able to build a great team while spending 20 mil on two people on the offensive side of the ball. Obviously, there is always an exception to the rule but we're talking about this front office being able to do something that doesn't happen often in this league.I think I get it now. The difference between me and you is that you obviously see Dimitroff and co in a much brighter light than I do. We might as well stop right here because I'm not a gambling man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 All that I'm getting from your constant word playing is that you are a gambler. Your willing to gamble on this front office being able to build a great team while spending 20 mil on two people on the offensive side of the ball. Obviously, there is always an exception to the rule but we're talking about this front office being able to do something that doesn't happen often in this league.I think I get it now. The difference between me and you is that you obviously see Dimitroff and co in a much brighter light than I do. We might as well stop right here because I'm not a gambling man.I see it as more of a gamble to let arguably your best player walk instead of signing him just because you don't want to spend money. You have to spend money on great players to win, what position those players are isn't as important as people make it out to be. You don't let players as good as JJ walk if you can stop it, that's as simple as it gets for me mate, nothing to do with TD. Though if anything, your argument is counting on TD finding other great players, I just want to keep the one we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) First of all, giving up almost an entire Draft to aquire Jones was pure insanity. A WR will never be on the field enough to warrant that kind of outrageous cost.Next, to pay him a fortune to keep him around just continues the lunacy.I respectfully disagree. If we where to fail to retain Julio, the bounty we gave up to get him would suddenly become even more expensive seemingly. I just think it would basically make an expensive deal look a whole lot worse. It's not like we would be throwing good money after bad, like we did with Baker. Edited March 25, 2015 by Atlfanstckndenver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 peter are you going to make this thread once a weekhttp://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4025289-falcons-do-not-need-to-re-sign-julioUntil the mods suspend his thread starting abilities again, or ban him, yes he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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