xiv_T_E_C_O_ Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/03/saints_falcons_titans_shut_out.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 no surprises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimitiveJN Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Waiting for this panic attack to hit me as I did not see this coming./purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveHomeSafelyAtlantaWins Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Dam. This means TD can't draft 3 additional players who don't pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Will we have some next year for losing Spoon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Will we have some next year for losing Spoon?We would prob get a 4th and a 6th for spoon and Corey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 We would prob get a 4th and a 6th for spoon and Coreyi doubt it. Isn't compensatory picks dependent on PT of the players? If so i dnt see us getting anything for spoon, he didnt play for the last two yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 NO team has ever gotten a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation, ie, the team has signed more qualified FAs than they lost in a given year.Right now Atlanta is in a Net Gain situation for this year. Yes the Falcons have lost Spoon and Peters, but they have signed Reed, Durant, Hankerson, and Tamme for a Net Gain of a least 2 qualified free agents. The Falcons of also signed several other FAs who probably don't make enough annual compensation to figure into the comp formula, which if they did, would make the Net Gain even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 NO team has ever gotten a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation, ie, the team has signed more qualified FAs than they lost in a given year.Right now Atlanta is in a Net Gain situation for this year. Yes the Falcons have lost Spoon and Peters, but they have signed Reed, Durant, Hankerson, and Tamme for a Net Gain of a least 2 qualified free agents. The Falcons of also signed several other FAs who probably don't make enough annual compensation to figure into the comp formula, which if they did, would make the Net Gain even more.Yes, And I love getting the proven players more than late rd Iffy's ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 NO team has ever gotten a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation, ie, the team has signed more qualified FAs than they lost in a given year.Right now Atlanta is in a Net Gain situation for this year. Yes the Falcons have lost Spoon and Peters, but they have signed Reed, Durant, Hankerson, and Tamme for a Net Gain of a least 2 qualified free agents. The Falcons of also signed several other FAs who probably don't make enough annual compensation to figure into the comp formula, which if they did, would make the Net Gain even more.But salary also comes into play. It's not completely based on the number of players. Spoon got a decent payday. But you're right, peter's might be washed away with our pickups and reed might equal out spoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 NO team has ever gotten a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation, ie, the team has signed more qualified FAs than they lost in a given year.Right now Atlanta is in a Net Gain situation for this year. Yes the Falcons have lost Spoon and Peters, but they have signed Reed, Durant, Hankerson, and Tamme for a Net Gain of a least 2 qualified free agents. The Falcons of also signed several other FAs who probably don't make enough annual compensation to figure into the comp formula, which if they did, would make the Net Gain even more.Don't forget about Robert McClain signing with New England. Plus, we've still got a handful of free agents out there...Osi UmenyioraSteven JacksonJacquizz RodgersGabe CarimiMike JohnsonJosh WilsonJavier ArenasDwight LoweryBear PascoeDrew DavisJonathan ScottBut even if the majority of those guys wind up signing with teams before training camp, I think you're right. It's highly unlikely we get any comp picks next year, as we've signed a lot of outside free agents this offseason, and probably still aren't done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 But salary also comes into play. It's not completely based on the number of players. Spoon got a decent payday. But you're right, peter's might be washed away with our pickups and reed might equal out spoonSalary can only justify additional compensation in a situation where you have an equal number of players lost and players gained but the players lost represent bigger contracts/etc than the players gained.Net FA loss = comp picks.Net FA gain = no comp picksNet FA 0 = potential for 7th round picks if the value lost exceeds the value gained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't forget about Robert McClain signing with New England. Plus, we've still got a handful of free agents out there...Osi UmenyioraSteven JacksonJacquizz RodgersGabe CarimiMike JohnsonJosh WilsonJavier ArenasDwight LoweryBear PascoeDrew DavisJonathan ScottBut even if the majority of those guys wind up signing with teams before training camp, I think you're right. It's highly unlikely we get any comp picks next year, as we've signed a lot of outside free agents this offseason, and probably still aren't done.Jackson doesnt count because he was cut. Everyone else is still out there and could sign on with other teams. But at their expected contract value, I wouldnt expect more than a 7th rounder. And thats assuming we dont sign any more players and at least three of these guys get picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 NO team has ever gotten a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation, ie, the team has signed more qualified FAs than they lost in a given year.Right now Atlanta is in a Net Gain situation for this year. Yes the Falcons have lost Spoon and Peters, but they have signed Reed, Durant, Hankerson, and Tamme for a Net Gain of a least 2 qualified free agents. The Falcons of also signed several other FAs who probably don't make enough annual compensation to figure into the comp formula, which if they did, would make the Net Gain even more.I forgot to include Robert McClain as a qualified free agent loss by Atlanta, as virginiafalcon pointed out, but I also forgot to include Clayborn and Schofield as qualified free agents signed by the Falcons thus far this year. Therefore, at the present time, Atlanta appears to have a Net Gain of 3 (Qualified FAs Signed (6): Reed, Durant, Hankerson, Tamme, Clayborn, Schofield; Qualified FAs Lost (3): Spoon, Peters, McClain) Even though the FA period for the comp formula goes until the middle of June, I would think it would be very highly unlikely that the Falcons would get to a Net Loss situation for 2015. Once again I reiterate, NO team has ever received a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation in the previous year's FA period. Thus, Atlanta will, in all likelihood, NOT get a comp pick in the 2016 draft either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 We would prob get a 4th and a 6th for spoon and CoreyWhy do people always over state the comp picks? Falcons will be lucky to get a 5th for Spoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I forgot to include Robert McClain as a qualified free agent loss by Atlanta, as virginiafalcon pointed out, but I also forgot to include Clayborn and Schofield as qualified free agents signed by the Falcons thus far this year. Therefore, at the present time, Atlanta appears to have a Net Gain of 3 (Qualified FAs Signed (6): Reed, Durant, Hankerson, Tamme, Clayborn, Schofield; Qualified FAs Lost (3): Spoon, Peters, McClain) Even though the FA period for the comp formula goes until the middle of June, I would think it would be very highly unlikely that the Falcons would get to a Net Loss situation for 2015. Once again I reiterate, NO team has ever received a comp pick if they are in a Net Gain situation in the previous year's FA period. Thus, Atlanta will, in all likelihood, NOT get a comp pick in the 2016 draft either.I was just looking over Mike Person's Falcons contract on Spotrac. Since Person's average annual salary is over $1.1 million per year, he will probably be over the minimum threshold limit to qualify for the comp formula. Therefore, Mike Person will probably count as another qualified free agent signed by Atlanta, and thus the Falcons Net Gain in Free Agency so far in 2015 probably stands at 4, rather than 3 in the above quote.http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/michael-person/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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