FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A few things that stand out:Running to the right might be bad news for offenses against this defense.Sol - 340 poundsClayborn - 280 poundsThen you have Moore and Reed there as well who are both very tough run defenders.We've smashed Worrilow inbetween a bunch of vets. If Quinn can get Wor into attack mode and moving downhill instead of waiting for the play to come to him, he will be ok.Obvious question marks @ the LEO position and FS right now.LEO will be addressed with pick 8. No doubt in my mind.FS we have a few inhouse candidates, but are unknowns. I still expect a vet brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafalcon1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) as much as i dont like the fact we didnt get a big time pass rusher in free agency, i LIKE the potential of that RUN defense............. Edited March 16, 2015 by atlbenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You can flesh it out by placing Schofield or Starr in that LEO position. Even Maponga. It is in fact "as of today". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You sure Clayborn is going to be playing left end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 You can flesh it out by placing Schofield or Starr in that LEO position. Even Maponga. It is in fact "as of today".Yea I'd assume the two guys now would be Schofield and perhaps even Shembo.It would wind up as Worrilow being on the bench, Reed being the MIKE and Shembo being the SAM too.Really just speculation right now, but yea, guess I could have did better than ? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If WOR is a starter, his best football (deleware tape) was always attacking the ball. Not wondering wtf he was supposed to do in the nolan scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You can flesh it out by placing Schofield or Starr in that LEO position. Even Maponga. It is in fact "as of today".Question for you..wouldn't Clayborn be more of a LEO in the pic with the 5 tech being TJax, zero tech being Soliali, and the 3 tech being Hageman.The SAM would be Maponga , Schoffield or Starr, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 You sure Clayborn is going to be playing left end?Whatcha got man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maorifalcon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yeah Schofield right now would have to be the LEO on 3rd down, Maponga on first and 2nd maybe. Beasley as the LEO would be a dream.I'm happy with southward at FS but I think we sign lowery or someone to start or give depth. Pretty promising defense me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Question for you..wouldn't Clayborn be more of a LEO in the pic with the 5 tech being TJax, zero tech being Soliali, and the 3 tech being Hageman.The SAM would be Maponga , Schoffield or Starr, right?Well, thye main reason for looking into him as LEO is his past sack numbers. I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHBROWN3 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 A bunch of rabid wolves flying to the ball... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Question for you..wouldn't Clayborn be more of a LEO in the pic with the 5 tech being TJax, zero tech being Soliali, and the 3 tech being Hageman.The SAM would be Maponga , Schoffield or Starr, right?Clayborn is excellent @ setting the edge. In 2013 he was a top 5 run defender in the NFL. The LEO is almost a designated pass rusher. That would be taking away Clayborn's strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Well, thye main reason for looking into him as LEO is his past sack numbers. I don't know for sure.Lol thanks. Essentially the LEO is split out wide and is your best pass rusher, right? Regardless of size, I guess I would think as of today Reed is probably the SAM unless they move him insideI love these topics..I learn a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primetime Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Southy shouldn't start at FS - he's still way to rawSchoefield/Shembo can plug in at LEO - he's most likely better suited to start the season there than the #8 pick anyway. WOR has the Mike until the drafted mlb takes his spot (if at all) - still think with pieces around him he can be a valuable contributor to the defence. Anyone who thinks this lineup doesn't trump last year is kidding themselves - I'm not a hugger I just think this is a 15-20 defence provided we draft well with the top 3 picks and the offence stays around the top 5-8 mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Doesn't Clayborn's medical issue (weaker left arm) require that he line up on the right side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Clayborn is excellent @ setting the edge. In 2013 he was a top 5 run defender in the NFL. The LEO is almost a designated pass rusher. That would be taking away Clayborn's strength.I thought of that..and there's merit to your point..but isn't the whole point of LEO being wide to get the best angle while the other side sets the edge? In the case of the 5 tech when used right, TJax is one of the best at setting the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 I thought of that..and there's merit to your point..but isn't the whole point of LEO being wide to get the best angle while the other side sets the edge? In the case of the 5 tech when used right, TJax is one of the best at setting the edgeYes, but Clayborn's strengths aren't as a pure pass rusher. The man is 280 pounds. He's nearly as big as Tjax, but with some actual pass rush ability. They'll platoon and Clayborn will even kick inside sometimes in obvious 3rd and long passing downs with Hageman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 No Corners? This is going to be a massacre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Whatcha got man?This was always my question about the Clayborn signing. That spot where he is slotted is probably where he should be, but in Iowa, and Tampa, he was forced to play as a Right End because of the Erbs Palsy in his right arm. Even the few times I've been able to find where he slid inside, it was still on the right side. As you know, in 4-3 Under, everything switches based on the strong side of the offense. Is Clayborn going to be able to do that? Is he going to be able to play on that side where he is now and hold up?Last year, he was slotted in as a Right End. I guess Lovie was just going to put him where it made the most sense and let him sink of swim. As far as I can find, he was tracked with 52 snaps and had a negative grade. It might wind up being something he can overcome, but IMO, there's no reason to think that right now, and I would slot Jackson in as the 5-tech at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Schofield would be our LEO in the lineup that you have out there. He also has the ability to play Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 If Clayborn can stay on the field and raise both his arms the same way I got no doubt he could be a pure beast for us, I just am not all that confident those two things are going to happen ...man, I loved him out of Iowa and the way he looked as a rookie, but this is a big gamble type signing. I love the player, hate his injuries and physical problems....guy has the heart of a lion that he showed as a dominant beast at Iowa,....I am praying the good lord lays his healing hands ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Doesn't Clayborn's medical issue (weaker left arm) require that he line up on the right side?Nope he played RDE and LDE at Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yes, but Clayborn's strengths aren't as a pure pass rusher. The man is 280 pounds. He's nearly as big as Tjax, but with some actual pass rush ability. They'll platoon and Clayborn will even kick inside sometimes in obvious 3rd and long passing downs with Hageman.You are correct sir, coming out of Hawkeye land he was the prototype 4-3 LDE .....except for the arm issue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 This was always my question about the Clayborn signing. That spot where he is slotted is probably where he should be, but in Iowa, and Tampa, he was forced to play as a Right End because of the Erbs Palsy in his right arm. Even the few times I've been able to find where he slid inside, it was still on the right side. As you know, in 4-3 Under, everything switches based on the strong side of the offense. Is Clayborn going to be able to do that? Is he going to be able to play on that side where he is now and hold up?Last year, he was slotted in as a Right End. I guess Lovie was just going to put him where it made the most sense and let him sink of swim. As far as I can find, he was tracked with 52 snaps and had a negative grade. It might wind up being something he can overcome, but IMO, there's no reason to think that right now, and I would slot Jackson in as the 5-tech at this point.So would he work as the RDE? Enough pass rush skills lined out wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 I just don't see how an NFL team drafts Clayborn in the 1st round if his condition is any kind of factor at all, especially being bad enough to limit him to one side of the field.I think it's very overblown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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