Trouble Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Earlier this week, the Saints shipped Ben Grubbs to Kansas City for a fifth-round pick. And the Chiefs promptly tore up the final year of the guard’s existing deal.Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Grubbs and the Chiefs agreed to terms on a four-year, $24 million contract. The deal has $8 million guaranteed at signing and another $3 million that becomes fully guaranteed if Grubbs is on the 90-man roster in March 2017.According to the source, the Saints had asked Grubbs, 31, to reduce his 2015 compensation from $6.6 million to $4.5 million, with little or no guaranteed money. Under the new deal, Grubbs will get his $6.6 million in 2015.Grubbs signed a five-year, $36 million contract with the Saints in 2012 after starting his career with the Ravens.Saints want players they even trade for to cut their price. Take money away from them from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Saint Scoop comes through with another one! ALL HAIL SAINT SCOOPS ALOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 So.The Saints asked grubbs to take a pay cut...he refused so they traded him. yea that totally sounds like a performance issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 So.The Saints asked grubbs to take a pay cut...he refused so they traded him. yea that totally sounds like a performance issueHmmm if is wasn't performance,Why trade him them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Must have been a locker room distraction or brees didn't like him that got him traded. Surely he didn't get LOOMMISED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Kc is Awesome.All hail Kc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatMan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 **** I wish we had traded him to Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints4life25 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Jesus. Obviously, KC watched no tape before this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFanInLA Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think the salient point here is that Outback Steakhouse's Outback Style Prime Rib, medium rare is the best thing they have to offer. The meat is so tender that you can cut it with a butterknife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Grubbs was like losing the anchor on the line....literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hmmm if is wasn't performance,Why trade him themLol refused to take pay cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Grubbs was like losing the anchor on the line....literally.Grubbs had one slightly down year not finishing in the top ten and they act like he is Sam baker. I wish our coaches could build an oline that creates those high expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints4life25 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Lol refused to take pay cut? You don't approach a player that's earning his pay about a pay cut. Jesus. It's ok to admit that the Saints had cap trouble and that certain players weren't earning their keep. The Saints did what they had to do for the better of the team. Grubbs had to do what he had to do for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Lol refused to take pay cut? Can we all say Lofton? Their best LB. First to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Lol refused to take pay cut? Ahhhhhhh thanks got it now Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Remember all that pressure Drew faced up the middle with uncharacteristic frequency? Grubbs was a factor in that.Heck, even the no pass rush up the middle Falcons were having some uncharacteristic success there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Brees was only sacked 29 times last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Brees was only sacked 29 times last season?29 and he avoided a ton more37 the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Compare with 16 in 2009, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 These guys aren't used to watching their qb not be able to stand still in the pocket for 8 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Lol refused to take pay cut?Dude, why waste your time. Loomis could admit these moves were due to financial reasons and the Who Dat's would still insist it's all because of performance. DN brought up a great point about Lofton being shown the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Dude, why waste your time. Loomis could admit these moves were due to financial reasons and the Who Dat's would still insist it's all because of performance. DN brought up a great point about Lofton being shown the door.I know. I just don't get it though. There's some that admit it but most are still hanging on to the idea that the 20 million over was done on purpose and a few triggers would clear the cap and then someI guess they fought it so hard it's difficult to admit they were wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Donut'd again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezy0236 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I know. I just don't get it though. There's some that admit it but most are still hanging on to the idea that the 20 million over was done on purpose and a few triggers would clear the cap and then someI guess they fought it so hard it's difficult to admit they were wrong ?Sy, Loomis himself said this, Saints fans weren't just randomly throwing this out just to debunk the "cap H3ll" argument. Some of these moves are cap related, some were performance related.http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/13383/saints-mickey-loomis-talks-salary-cap-plan-mark-ingram"Loomis reiterated that the Saints have a plan for trimming the estimated $25 million in salary-cap space that will be required over the next three weeks. Although Loomis didn’t specify that plan, a huge part will include converting roster bonuses into signing bonuses with players likeJunior Galette, Jairus Byrd, Jimmy Graham and Curtis Lofton. That simple tweak could save about $20 million right away, shifting those cap costs into future years. " again, not debating the fact that the cap isn't a mess, but these were words from the horses mouth, so why wouldn't we as Saints fans not take him at his his word, since you know, he's the one that said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sy, Loomis himself said this, Saints fans weren't just randomly throwing this out just to debunk the "cap H3ll" argument. Some of these moves are cap related, some were performance related.http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/13383/saints-mickey-loomis-talks-salary-cap-plan-mark-ingram"Loomis reiterated that the Saints have a plan for trimming the estimated $25 million in salary-cap space that will be required over the next three weeks. Although Loomis didn’t specify that plan, a huge part will include converting roster bonuses into signing bonuses with players likeJunior Galette, Jairus Byrd, Jimmy Graham and Curtis Lofton. That simple tweak could save about $20 million right away, shifting those cap costs into future years. " again, not debating the fact that the cap isn't a mess, but these were words from the horses mouth, so why wouldn't we as Saints fans not take him at his his word, since you know, he's the one that said it?Did you think he would sayI blew it guys... but it's ok....cause I'mma bout to blow this bichh to pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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