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Well, it's safe to say if she can make weight with only 4 months notice, she definitely ducked Rousey when she claimed incapable of making weight all those times she was offered a year to get ready for the fight.

and once again it makes no sense for Cyborg to duck a fight worth millions. I don't think you understand how difficult weight cutting is. Once again the current 205 champion Daniel Cromier almost died a couple years ago trying to cut to 205.
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Say what you want about Ronda, but she will beat Cyborg @ 135. I think even at 145 it would be a great possibility.

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Look at this *****. She's clearly juicing. She's bigger than Frankie, ****, her head is bigger than Frankie. She's got a friggin waterhead. Clearly juicing.

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and once again it makes no sense for Cyborg to duck a fight worth millions. I don't think you understand how difficult weight cutting is. Once again the current 205 champion Daniel Cromier almost died a couple years ago trying to cut to 205.

By that logic, it's safe to say that Ortiz was pying and Dana was telling the truth? For one, I had doubts of Cyborg agreeing to get down to 135 in only 4 months. For two, Cyborg already stated she wanted to make weight and fight at 135 before fighting Rousey. Last but not least, if it was true, Tito stealing Dana's thunder by announcing it publicly before the UFC would've all but sealed it getting cancelled.

Dana hates Tito, and Tito is part of the reason this fight hasn't happened. Cyborg needs to distance herself from him or get his mouth under wraps, otherwise I don't think Dana will give Cyborg the chance again.

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doubt that. Her toughest opponent since she came to the UFC was Miesha Tate. Took her 3 rounds to beat her.

Rousey's last 2 opponents were 18-0 collectively. Come on man, look at the opponents that took Cyborg past the first round. One chick has an 0-8 career record, went 2 rounds with Cyborg. Part of fighting is the matchup of styles. I've seen lesser opponents go alot longer than I'd expect against great fighters. And Tate is no slouch anyway.

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By that logic, it's safe to say that Ortiz was pying and Dana was telling the truth? For one, I had doubts of Cyborg agreeing to get down to 135 in only 4 months. For two, Cyborg already stated she wanted to make weight and fight at 135 before fighting Rousey. Last but not least, if it was true, Tito stealing Dana's thunder by announcing it publicly before the UFC would've all but sealed it getting cancelled.

Dana hates Tito, and Tito is part of the reason this fight hasn't happened. Cyborg needs to distance herself from him or get his mouth under wraps, otherwise I don't think Dana will give Cyborg the chance again.

I don't think they offered the fight. I do think they had discussions of it. Makes no sense for Cyborg's manager to lie. The money Dana will make off this fight will offset any disagreements that he and Tito has
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Rousey's last 2 opponents were 18-0 collectively. Come on man, look at the opponents that took Cyborg past the first round. One chick has an 0-8 career record, went 2 rounds with Cyborg. Part of fighting is the matchup of styles. I've seen lesser opponents go alot longer than I'd expect against great fighters. And Tate is no slouch anyway.

what does any of that have to do anything I said? So what her last two opponents had a 18-0 record. Who did they fight to get that record? Cyborg at 145 is too much for Ronda. Period point blank. Ronda refuses to fight her at that weight cause she knows what will happen. Cyborg can still take steroids and come in at 135. Ronda knows at 135 she has the advantage. Cyborg has the advantage at 145. Makes no sense for the champion to give the challenger an advantage. Tate is no Cyborg.
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I'd rather support a fighter that's been clean for the last 4 years and respects the sport and her opponents over a disrespectful smug b****.

She respects the sport and her opponents so much that she took steroids to gain an unfair advantage and put her opponent's at further risk of injury?

Seriously, do even read the excrement that you type?

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what does any of that have to do anything I said? So what her last two opponents had a 18-0 record. Who did they fight to get that record? Cyborg at 145 is too much for Ronda. Period point blank. Ronda refuses to fight her at that weight cause she knows what will happen. Cyborg can still take steroids and come in at 135. Ronda knows at 135 she has the advantage. Cyborg has the advantage at 145. Makes no sense for the champion to give the challenger an advantage. Tate is no Cyborg.

I do think Cyborg would overwhelm Rousey with power at 145. But I also think Cyborg is a one trick pony and style matchups make a fight. She's a striker, and a great one at that, but it's the only weapon her opponents have to defend against. Rousey has more weapons in her arsenal. Even at 145, Cyborg could get over-aggressive and leave herself open for Rousey to lock in a submission.

Kimbo Slice was a great puncher and if he landed, you would get knocked into next week. Since that was his only weapon, he got exposed even by mediocre MMA fighters. I'm not saying Cyborg is equivalent to Kimbo, as Cyborg is better technically and she also has kicks in her arsenal. But I am saying it's tough to count Rousey out at any weight because Cyborg will be going for the KO while Rousey would be looking to defend and find an opening to lock in an armbar.

P.S. Cyborg makes very quick work of strikers. Generally, the fighters that take longer for her to KO are the one's that have good defensive skills, good grappling skills, and they know better than trying to beat Cyborg standing up. Rousey is far more the 2nd type of fighter, which has a chance against Cyborg.

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Kimbo has heavy hands but was not a technical striker and couldn't grapple. Cyborg is a very well rounded fighter with good striking and grappling skills. Comparing her to Kimbo is way off. She's more like a cross between Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort. Silva has excellent Muay Thai skills. Belfort has great BJJ skills but often relied more on his overwhelming striking for quick finishes.

"I'm not saying Cyborg is equivalent to Kimbo, as Cyborg is better technically and she also has kicks in her arsenal."

I was pointing to the fact that Cyborg only wins with striking, which makes her less well-rounded than someone like Rousey. She is a far better MMA fighter than Kimbo, their skills do not compare, but he was the perfect example of how a powerful striker can be defeated by a mediocre fighter with more ways to win. Kimbo destroyed other strikers. Tank Abbott was a very experienced MMA striker, and Kimbo destroyed him. Kimbo then got destroyed by mediocre grapplers because he relied too much on striking.

Again, Cyborg is not Kimbo, but she relies on striking a ton and Rousey is a great submission artist, which gives her a great shot based on their style matchup. That's not to say Cyborg can't wrestle or can't grapple, it's just saying that she focuses too much on striking which makes her more vulnerable against submission artists. For comparison's sake, if Rousey was primarily focused on striking, I wouldn't give her a shot in **** against Cyborg at any weight.

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There is zero evidence that Cyborg has juiced in the last 4 years. Every test has come back clean and she's offered to do whatever testing necessary to fight Rousey.

All of Barry Bonds' and Lance Armstrong's tests came back clean too. And the testing isn't necessary if she would simply get down to 135. But she doesn't want to do that. She likes the advantage of being the bigger girl. It's a security blanket for her.

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I do think Cyborg would overwhelm Rousey with power at 145. But I also think Cyborg is a one trick pony and style matchups make a fight. She's a striker, and a great one at that, but it's the only weapon her opponents have to defend against. Rousey has more weapons in her arsenal. Even at 145, Cyborg could get over-aggressive and leave herself open for Rousey to lock in a submission.

Kimbo Slice was a great puncher and if he landed, you would get knocked into next week. Since that was his only weapon, he got exposed even by mediocre MMA fighters. I'm not saying Cyborg is equivalent to Kimbo, as Cyborg is better technically and she also has kicks in her arsenal. But I am saying it's tough to count Rousey out at any weight because Cyborg will be going for the KO while Rousey would be looking to defend and find an opening to lock in an armbar.

P.S. Cyborg makes very quick work of strikers. Generally, the fighters that take longer for her to KO are the one's that have good defensive skills, good grappling skills, and they know better than trying to beat Cyborg standing up. Rousey is far more the 2nd type of fighter, which has a chance against Cyborg.

chuck Lindell was a one trick pony and he knocked out some of the greatest MMA fighters. And he was the Light Heavyweight champion. That's a better comparison. And Cyborg trains in BJJ. So she has muliple weapons in her arsenal. She is a black belt in Muay Thai. The woman is destructive to her opponents
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All of Barry Bonds' and Lance Armstrong's tests came back clean too. And the testing isn't necessary if she would simply get down to 135. But she doesn't want to do that. She likes the advantage of being the bigger girl. It's a security blanket for her.

so since she cheated we should assume she is cheating still even though all her tests comes back clean? She can still take roids and come in at 135. There is no scientific evidence that suggest she can't.
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Dana is denying now even though both Tito and Cyborg's manager and Cyborg herself said UFC had offered the Dallas fight:

Dana: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/dana-white--the-ufc-did-not-offer--cyborg--a-fight-against-ronda-rousey-210736760.html

George Prajin (Cyborg's manager): http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13402162/cris-cyborg-justino-willing-fight-ronda-rousey-135-pounds-december

Cyborg: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2543043-ufc-has-offered-cris-cyborg-justino-fight-with-ronda-rousey-says-tito-ortiz

Tito: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/8/8/9120921/oritz-claims-cyborg-offered-fight-with-rousey-at-cowboys-stadium

I think Dana's lying again (no surprise). Sounds like some part of the deal fell through (money? weight? Rousey's camp?) and now Dana wants to pretend that he didn't reach out to Cyborg's camp for a fight deal for Dec 5th.

Assuming for a moment that Tito is telling the truth, he has to be the dumbest SOB alive to leak that before the UFC gets a chance to announce it. Why on earth would he sabotage his own fighter like that?

That's the main reason I don't believe Tito because I don't believe that even he is that stupid. And if he is, then Cyborg needs to drop him with the quickness.

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so since she cheated we should assume she is cheating still even though all her tests comes back clean? She can still take roids and come in at 135. There is no scientific evidence that suggest she can't.

She's walking around at nearly 180. By all reports, she has to practically kill herself to get to 145. I don't see her juicing and getting to 135.

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chuck Lindell was a one trick pony and he knocked out some of the greatest MMA fighters. And he was the Light Heavyweight champion. That's a better comparison. And Cyborg trains in BJJ. So she has muliple weapons in her arsenal. She is a black belt in Muay Thai. The woman is destructive to her opponents

Chuck is a better comparison to Cyborg. I agree. My overall point is the same though. Great strikers can walk through other strikers looking like they are invincible. The style that poses the biggest challenge for great strikers are great submission artists. Neither side is ever guaranteed victory. The first time Liddell ran into Couture, Couture submitted him. The next time around, Chuck knocked him out.

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Chuck is a better comparison to Cyborg. I agree. My overall point is the same though. Great strikers can walk through other strikers looking like they are invincible. The style that poses the biggest challenge for great strikers are great submission artists. Neither side is ever guaranteed victory. The first time Liddell ran into Couture, Couture submitted him. The next time around, Chuck knocked him out.

Chuck learned from his mistake. Ronda has a huge ego. I totally expect her to stand and trade punches with Cyborg if they ever fought. The reason is because everyone will expect Cyborg to have the advantage in standing up. Remember how Cromier told Jon Jones he would out wrestle him and put him on his back anytime he wanted? Cromier was outwrestled by Jones. Both Ronda and Jones egos won't let them be challenged in such a way
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Chuck learned from his mistake. Ronda has a huge ego. I totally expect her to stand and trade punches with Cyborg if they ever fought. The reason is because everyone will expect Cyborg to have the advantage in standing up. Remember how Cromier told Jon Jones he would out wrestle him and put him on his back anytime he wanted? Cromier was outwrestled by Jones. Both Ronda and Jones egos won't let them be challenged in such a way

Rousey has a big ego, but I don't agree with this at all. If she allowed her ego to get in the way like that, her ego would've fought her at 145. Nobody in her camp would be ok with training her for a standup battle.

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Rousey has a big ego, but I don't agree with this at all. If she allowed her ego to get in the way like that, her ego would've fought her at 145. Nobody in her camp would be ok with training her for a standup battle.

She knows what will happen at 145. Cyborg is too big and strong for her at 145. Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" I fully expect Ronda to stand up with Cyborg. She stopped going for her armbar cause people said that's all she can do.
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She knows what will happen at 145. Cyborg is too big and strong for her at 145. Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" I fully expect Ronda to stand up with Cyborg. She stopped going for her armbar cause people said that's all she can do.

If she does that, I agree she would get KO'd. I don't think Ronda is as dumb as you think she is. She didn't abandon her armbar cause people said that was all she can do. She picked which fighters she wanted to go toe to toe striking with. If she had tried to stand up with Zingano, I would agree her ego was forcing her away from her armbar, because Zingano is a heavy puncher and that wouldn't be a good strategy for Ronda in that fight. She is not in the same league as Cyborg when it comes to striking, and Ronda knows that. If she has any sense what so ever, she knows that she's not going to out-condition Cyborg, so wearing her down with strikes is not a winnable approach to the fight. The only standup we'll see from Ronda in that fight is trying to create an opening for a submission and trying to evade Cyborg's power.

Correia had 1 KO in her last 5 fights. She's had 2 in 10 career fights, neither of which were in the 1st round. Rousey went for the KO because she wasn't worried about getting KO'd. 7 of her 9 wins were by decision. That's not to minimize Correia because she was 9-0 before facing Rousey, it is to say that she is not a heavy striker.

Zingano was her fight just before this last one, and she won it with an armbar 14 seconds into the fight. Zingano had 5 KO's in her last 6 fights before Rousey, and Rousey went straight to submission. Zingano is a heavy striker and Ronda didn't bother trying to out-strike her.

Alexis Davis was the fight before Zingano and she had 3 KO's in 23 professional fights. Davis is not a heavy striker, she is a submission specialist. Rousey went after her with striking, attacking her weakness, and not competing with her on her strength of submitting opponents.

McMann is the same story as Davis, better at submissions, not known as a heavy striker. So Ronda went with a striking plan.

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