Guest Gritz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I didn't want Rex Ryan but I didn't insult him or the people who wanted him. Been clear since late October-early November that I thought Quinn was the best candidate for what I felt sure was going to be the vacant Falcons HC job.Most people on here somehow find it necessary to run down other candidates to prop up their own guy.You don't like Quinn? that's cool...but post valid reasons instead of "I could coach that Seattle defense." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Quinn puts the players in the positions where they have the best chance to recognize what's happening on the field and utilize their individual talents....something Smith and Nolan NEVER DID.You make it sound like Kam Chancellor is going up to Quinn saying "I want to play nose tackle this Sunday."lol.According to Larry Fitzgerald, the Seattle defensive scheme is very vanilla, and its the great talent of the players who make the D really work, and the scheme is nothing special. He mentioned that they run the same plays over and over again.Sounds to me that Seattle's success was built on great player acquisition rather than coaching. Maybe it's Seattle's GM the Falcons really need to hire rather than one of their coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROMERO Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 According to Larry Fitzgerald, the Seattle defensive scheme is very vanilla, and its the great talent of the players who make the D really work, and the scheme is nothing special. He mentioned that they run the same plays over and over again.Sounds to me that Seattle's success was built on great player acquisition rather than coaching. Maybe it's Seattle's GM the Falcons really need to hire rather than one of their coaches.ding ding ding. their defense is full of great talent. thats why im on the fence about Quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Sounds to me that Seattle's success was built on great player acquisition rather than coaching. Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yeah, I'm sure that's it.The fact that Gus Bradley has failed miserably in Jacksonville is relevant to Dan Quinn. I know you don't want that to be true, but it is. Seattle has breathtaking secondary talent, and it allows them to do things that Atlanta simply won't be able to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allknowing Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Some posters already mentioned that Dan Quinn doesn't really scheme much and that it is the players doing the same defense over and over. I took it with a grain of salt when I heard this.However, NFL network was interviewing Larry Fitz about what he will do next season and how he felt about the Seattle D. Basically Larry confirmed what was mentioned about Quinn - that the same defense is run over and over, nothing exotic, and that it's their players who find nuances in the opposing offenses that make things happen.The idea that Dan Quinn is really fools gold is becoming more and more apparent. If Quinn is hired and he expects to do with the Atlanta D that he did with Seattle's, it will be a rude awakening for all.this is why i wanted rex. he actually has a resume and wanted to come here. but i do want quinn now because who else is left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intellectually Honest Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 He did coach prior to the Seahawks you know...Yeah I know. How is that a refutation to what I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I didn't want Rex Ryan but I didn't insult him or the people who wanted him. Been clear since late October-early November that I thought Quinn was the best candidate for what I felt sure was going to be the vacant Falcons HC job.Most people on here somehow find it necessary to run down other candidates to prop up their own guy.You don't like Quinn? that's cool...but post valid reasons instead of "I could coach that Seattle defense."That first post on this page wasn't for you gritz. As far as quinn I just wonder how he'll do when he's taking over a 32nd ranked unit as opposed to a #1 ranked unit or an already solid unit (florida). He may be able to, he may not, no one knows yet, buti would feel better about him if there were something on his track record we could point to where hes taken a terrible unit (like we have here) and made them top 10 or better.I hope he comes in and turns it around if he gets the job. Just dont feel these candidates are proven enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Tom Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) According to Larry Fitzgerald, the Seattle defensive scheme is very vanilla, and its the great talent of the players who make the D really work, and the scheme is nothing special. He mentioned that they run the same plays over and over again.Sounds to me that Seattle's success was built on great player acquisition rather than coaching. Maybe it's Seattle's GM the Falcons really need to hire rather than one of their coaches.I don't understand why this is used as a knock against Quinn. Two of the best players on the defense (Sherman and Chancellor) were 5th rounders. Two significant pieces of the front seven (Avril and Bennett) were recent FA acquisitions that have had more of an impact than maybe any free agent signed by the Falcons on the defensive side of the ball. It's not like Quinn woke up one day with a roster full of all-pros that didn't need to be developed and put in a position to be successful.Seems to me we have been running a very complex system with little talent for several years and the defense is garbage. Simplifying and actually having someone to locate and develop talent seems like exactly what I would want. Edited January 14, 2015 by Lucky_Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDFalcon Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The fact that Gus Bradley has failed miserably in Jacksonville is relevant to Dan Quinn. I know you don't want that to be true, but it is. Seattle has breathtaking secondary talent, and it allows them to do things that Atlanta simply won't be able to do.Never know Quinn may fail like Bradley. So as we are at it, let us bring Carroll himself. I think that will settle who did what. Bring Pete Carroll home TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDIRTYcode Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I must be in the minority on this but after 2 years of seeing Nolan "out scheme" teams, I am ready for SIMPLE. Line up and play dam good defense. I don't need a DE playing Safety or vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirds808 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I really want Quinn, but my only concern is that it appears that Denver loves Quinn. Say we both wait it out. Where will Quinn go? The advantage that we do have, is that Denver would have to wait till after the superbowl to have their first interview (assuming the seahawks beat the packers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I must be in the minority on this but after 2 years of seeing Nolan "out scheme" teams, I am ready for SIMPLE. Line up and play dam good defense. I don't need a DE playing Safety or vice versa. I have seen many diverse/complex defensive schemes, I have no idea what the heII the Falcons 2014 defense was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I have seen many diverse/complex defensive schemes, I have no idea what the heII the Falcons 2014 defense was.The Falcons 2014 defense was too complex, that's why all those young guys were out of place so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The fact that Gus Bradley has failed miserably in Jacksonville is relevant to Dan QuinnThe anti-Quinn people want it both ways apparently. It's hilarious.With some of you Quinn can't win. You'll skew it however you can.One minute it's:"Well, those weren't Quinn's players or defense. That defense was built by Gus Bradley. He should get all the credit."Next minute it's:"The fact that Gus Bradley has failed miserably in Jacksonville is relevant to Dan Quinn."Shifting logic to make some type of obscure point.I can't think of a single advocate of Dan Quinn on this board or anywhere else for that matter who would put forth the supposition that Seattle doesn't have excellent talent on that defensive unit. But many of you act like that defense is somehow on autopilot and Quinn is on the sidelines doing crossword puzzles and having internet chats while the game is going on.It shows a real lack of understanding about how important coordinators are in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthursMoustache Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm staking my claim..I've wanted Quinn yesterday, today and tomorrow. It is a scary wait though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The Falcons 2014 defense was too complex, that's why all those young guys were out of place so much.It was like and awfully knitted sweater that your aunt made for you, but you have no choice but to wear it because you don't want to hurt the nice old lady's feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yeah, I'm sure that's it.I've seen a lot of sarcasm and putting it on other posters. But I'd like to see your opinion. It's a valid concern whether you want to blow it off or not. We don't have the talent to run super simple over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanat0s Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 tDc, I think you hit the heart of my take on 'great' teams. The ones that go up one year and down the next tend to have had a ton of turnovers and unique things break their way. The ones that are consistently on top just line up and win the line of scrimmage and physically beat the other team. No gimmicks. No lucky breaks. They just beat you all day. That's what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I see a lot of "No Patriots!! It's all bill and Brady!!!" But for some reason that argument isn't allowed with the Seahawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The anti-Quinn people want it both ways apparently. It's hilarious.With some of you Quinn can't win. You'll skew it however you can.One minute it's:"Well, those weren't Quinn's players or defense. That defense was built by Gus Bradley. He should get all the credit."Next minute it's:"The fact that Gus Bradley has failed miserably in Jacksonville is relevant to Dan Quinn."Shifting logic to make some type of obscure point.I can't think of a single advocate of Dan Quinn on this board or anywhere else for that matter who would put forth the supposition that Seattle doesn't have excellent talent on that defensive unit. But many of you act like that defense is somehow on autopilot and Quinn is on the sidelines doing crossword puzzles and having internet chats while the game is going on.It shows a real lack of understanding about how important coordinators are in the NFL.Not even that. Just think when you have all star players its easier to look good as opposed to taking average to below average guys and putting them into position to make plays and look like all stars.We dont even have 1 all star on defense so his work would be cut out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcongl Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I see a lot of "No Patriots!! It's all bill and Brady!!!"But for some reason that argument isn't allowed with the Seahawks.I think it is the same excuse for Quinn and McDaniels. Created in the beginning of times by proRex fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've seen a lot of sarcasm and putting it on other posters.But I'd like to see your opinion. It's a valid concern whether you want to blow it off or not. We don't have the talent to run super simple over and over again.I've given my opinion on Quinn continuously and repeatedly since late October...I have posted his resume....I have posted quotes from current Seahawks players about how Quinn listens to their input about what they see on the field and then puts them in the best situations to succeed....how he still teaches technique to the D-linemen on occasion (D-lineman coach for several teams before initial stint with Seahawks in '09-10) when they have a problem or question, whether it's about body positioning and gap assignment even though he's a coordinator.Smart, approachable by players, adjusts....not a screamer or a milquetoast.I don't know what else to say. I think and have thought all along that Dan Quinn is the best choice to be the next Falcons head coach based upon everything I have read or heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Great to hear. I'll believe it when the dude is being introduced at the podium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 We dont even have 1 all star on defense so his work would be cut out for him.The work is going to be "cut out" for ANYONE who comes to Atlanta to get this defense respectable again.It would have been cut out for Rex Ryan, Bowles, Quinn, Austin, John Fox, or McDaniels.If zombie Tom Landry took over as HC he'd have a hard time getting this defense to the middle of the pack in less than 2 years.I've never said that Dan Quinn is a miracle worker and than he's going to have the Falcons as a top 5 D next year. NO ONE could do that. Talent acquisition takes time, and if Quinn is the choice it's going to take him time also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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