HoshPointOh Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Worilds is very streaky. Too inconsistent for my liking. If you watch his game against Houston this year, he looks like an all-world OLB. Then you watch the week 9 Baltimore game, or even the week 14 Cincinnati game, and he not only disappears but looks like a liability in every way imaginable. He'd probably still be my 5th choice after Hughes because I still like him better than a guy like Jabaal Sheard, but I'd really prefer to just get Graham and McPhee, even if we have to pay them more than other teams would be willing to, than have to settle for a guy like Worilds.Ok that makes sense. I believe the Eagles have said Graham is a priority and rightfully so, so I doubt he is available. I am surprised I haven't once heard Sam Acho's name mentioned in these forums. If we end up with Bowles I think there is a good chance he brings over a trusted pass rusher and Acho seems to me to be great to a guy who can fight for snaps against and push our drafted EDGE pressence assuming we get a McPhee or such on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigerfan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Very hard to say, maybe a combination of him playing up to his abilities and playing alongside 3 strong players. Also don't forget it's was a contract year for him. Definitley a buy or beware.He actually played well last year also. I would be hesitant to pay him though due to the talent around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Its possible which is why you get two guys in FA and draft one.Please let this be how the FO is thinking.I've never heard anyone complain about too many passrushers. Edited January 9, 2015 by Jpowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Ok that makes sense. I believe the Eagles have said Graham is a priority and rightfully so, so I doubt he is available. I am surprised I haven't once heard Sam Acho's name mentioned in these forums. If we end up with Bowles I think there is a good chance he brings over a trusted pass rusher and Acho seems to me to be great to a guy who can fight for snaps against and push our drafted EDGE pressence assuming we get a McPhee or such on the other side.I don't think that the Eagles would be willing to spend too much to keep Graham.They still have Connor Barwin(14.5 sacks), Vinny Curry(9 sacks), and their 2014 1st round pick Marcus Smith. Still plenty of horses in the stable.Graham would be wise to test the market, the Eagles will probably not be willing to franchise tag him if they can't come to terms on a deal by FA time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoshPointOh Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I don't think that the Eagles would be willing to spend too much to keep Graham.They still have Connor Barwin(14.5 sacks), Vinny Curry(9 sacks), and their 2014 1st round pick Marcus Smith. Still plenty of horses in the stable.Graham would be wise to test the market, the Eagles will probably not be willing to franchise tag him if they can't come to terms on a deal by FA time.That is true, the franchise tag is very doubtful and if he tests the market we can get him. By the way I attempted to look up some facts about what I said the Eagles said and it wasn't there. I must've just read their reporter saying he should be a priority with no word from the FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Ok that makes sense. I believe the Eagles have said Graham is a priority and rightfully so, so I doubt he is available. I am surprised I haven't once heard Sam Acho's name mentioned in these forums. If we end up with Bowles I think there is a good chance he brings over a trusted pass rusher and Acho seems to me to be great to a guy who can fight for snaps against and push our drafted EDGE pressence assuming we get a McPhee or such on the other side. Acho is a scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm for McPhee and Sheard, but tempted to dig into Derrick Morgan. Steady. 6 sacks a year. Good all around edge rusher. I think it's obvious #8 is going to be a speed rusher between Gregory, Ray and Beasley. Mass has some speed too. McPhee would be more power, I liken him to Michael Bennett, and Morgan would be the all around rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoshPointOh Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Acho is a scrub.Yeah, I am sorry I had some weird misconception in my mind that was not the truth, don't know how it got there. I hope no one reads that and stops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoshPointOh Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm for McPhee and Sheard, but tempted to dig into Derrick Morgan. Steady. 6 sacks a year. Good all around edge rusher. I think it's obvious #8 is going to be a speed rusher between Gregory, Ray and Beasley. Mass has some speed too. McPhee would be more power, I liken him to Michael Bennett, and Morgan would be the all around rusher.I like your idea of having a speed, power, and consistent balanced guy for the coach to play with. It kinda makes me think of a basic RB trio haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Naw not really. I thought so initially but he's turned into a legitimately talented pass rusher. Not a complete player by any stretch (and kind of a stupid player in terms of decision making) but consistently beats 1 on 1 even against quality LTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'm for McPhee and Sheard, but tempted to dig into Derrick Morgan. Steady. 6 sacks a year. Good all around edge rusher. I think it's obvious #8 is going to be a speed rusher between Gregory, Ray and Beasley. Mass has some speed too. McPhee would be more power, I liken him to Michael Bennett, and Morgan would be the all around rusher.I like this strategy if we can't get Houston (which is unlikely). I'm not sold on Mass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hughes is a speed rusher and Ray was a run D DE. Not even similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Worilds is very streaky. Too inconsistent for my liking. If you watch his game against Houston this year, he looks like an all-world OLB. Then you watch the week 9 Baltimore game, or even the week 14 Cincinnati game, and he not only disappears but looks like a liability in every way imaginable. He'd probably still be my 5th choice after Hughes because I still like him better than a guy like Jabaal Sheard, but I'd really prefer to just get Graham and McPhee, even if we have to pay them more than other teams would be willing to, than have to settle for a guy like Worilds.Yeah that's exactly how I feel. He shows flashes of dominance sometimes and will really make you think, "oh this guy is turning into a beast." Then out of nowhere he kind of disappears. Good player but way too inconsistent. I feel like Mass could be better than him if given the snaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 This is my case against Suh. You could arguably get mcphee and Graham for what he will cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GleasonForever! Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Kayoh do you think McPhee and Graham will fit into a scheme like Quinns if he is out head coach? Are there any pass rushers in FA that would fit his scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Kayoh do you think McPhee and Graham will fit into a scheme like Quinns if he is out head coach? Are there any pass rushers in FA that would fit his scheme? Yeah, McPhee is perfect for the Michael Bennett role and Graham would be a solid LEO/Sam LB in his scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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