FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 New Head Coach: Rex Ryan - he finally switches us officially to a 3-4 defense with a big, physical front 7 that can get to the QB.Key ReleasedRB Steven JacksonOT Sam BakerDE/OLB Osi DE/OLB Kroy BiermanKey Re-SignedLB Sean WeatherspoonKey FADavid Harris ILB - signed in part as an upgrade at ILB and part to help Ryan implement his system. Brandon Graham or Jerry Hughes OLB/DE - assumption is that Justin Houston is not available but an upgrade at OLB is a must. TBD RT - A pro bowler is not required but we do need to sign someone to compete for the RT position. I'm open to suggestions. Mark Barron S - a first round talent that didn't cut it in Tampa and could hit the market after this yr. Would minimally be an upgrade to our depth. ***and a shocking free agent signing***Adrian Peterson RB - Arthur Blank takes a chance here to give AP a second chance and is confident that Rex Ryan can handle the national media attention and scrutiny. With the franchise at a low point, this is a reclamation project for both AP's image and the team. Draft (note - primarily used Walter Football and CBS rankings)...and admittedly very SEC:1. Shane Ray DE/OLB, Mizzou2. Denzel Perryman ILB, Miami3. Trey Flowers OLB/DE, Arkansas4. Jarvis Harrison OG, Texas A&M5. Jalston Fowler FB, Alabama6. Trey Depriest ILB, Alabama7. CJ Uzomah TE, Auburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Perryman is just a smaller, slower version of Worrilow. Can't shed blocks, can't cover. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rex Ryan: I am not seeing this happen. He is the guy that everyone is talking about, but I don't think that he is going to end up as our new HC.Shraeder is our RT, and he will be for some time.Barron is no better than Ishmael.AP: Give me a break.....it would be better to use a second round pick on a young pair of legs than to waste the money and time on a player that might be useful for another two seasons.....might. The Falcon filter will get eased, but not for a guy that beats his kids and has not garnered any grass roots support.Graham and Hughes appear to be better suited for 4-3 DE. Do they have the athleticism to play standing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I like Rex as HC, I like the draft as well. We don't need a RT tho, Schraeder is really becoming something special at RT. Peterson is a no no, we can't sign old RB's these days. Mark Barron is worse than Ishmael so there's no point in bringing him in. I'd rather you sign Jordan Cameron in this scenario rather than get Peterson and Barron. Not bad tho for your first one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 NoMoreFARBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Perryman is just a smaller, slower version of Worrilow. Can't shed blocks, can't cover. No thanks.lol really now. Wonder what the scouts think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Perryman is just a smaller, slower version of Worrilow. Can't shed blocks, can't cover. No thanks.Hmm...from what I've seen of Perryman he is bigger, faster, and sheds blocks and covers better than Worrilow. I'd take Perryman or the kid from Miss St in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rex Ryan: I am not seeing this happen. He is the guy that everyone is talking about, but I don't think that he is going to end up as our new HC.Shraeder is our RT, and he will be for some time.Barron is no better than Ishmael.AP: Give me a break.....it would be better to use a second round pick on a young pair of legs than to waste the money and time on a player that might be useful for another two seasons.....might. The Falcon filter will get eased, but not for a guy that beats his kids and has not garnered any grass roots support.Graham and Hughes appear to be better suited for 4-3 DE. Do they have the athleticism to play standing up?Odds are that you are right on Rex Ryan not becoming the Falcons coach. Just saying I think he would be a good fit. While Shraeder has filled in admirably, I wouldn't anoint him our RT of the future just yet. I'd still like to see us bring in a guy like we did with Carimi this year to compete, especially if we don't draft one (which I didn't in the mock)I think Barron is much more talented than Ishmael from a skills perspective. Our safety depth isn't great and this is a way to get a talented guy. Mostly an upside play from my perspective. I don't disagree that a second round RB would be another path to go instead of AP...certainly cheaper and possibly better over the long term. We only have one second round pick at the moment and I chose to use it on defense. Graham for sure has played some standing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 NoMoreFARBsWell we only have so many draft picks and a lot of holes on this team, especially on D. I think the proposition of AP is a longshot but from a sheer football perspective I'd take 2-3 yrs of him over any back in this draft with the exception of a healthy Gurley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hmm...from what I've seen of Perryman he is bigger, faster, and sheds blocks and covers better than Worrilow. I'd take Perryman or the kid from Miss St in a heartbeat.If you SERIOUSLY believe that Perryman is faster than Worrilow, or even as fast as, then "Here's Your Sign." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Perryman is 5'11, Worrilow is 6'1 Perryman runs a 4.7, Worrilow runs a 4.6 Literally the only thing Perryman does better than Worrilow is hit, which is something that'll likely get him in trouble in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Worrilow doesn't run a 4.6. Ain't no way in ****. Pro day numbers are bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Perryman has better instincts and he doesn't play on his heels. Worrilow looks like he is on skates at times. Slow to react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well we only have so many draft picks and a lot of holes on this team, especially on D. I think the proposition of AP is a longshot but from a sheer football perspective I'd take 2-3 yrs of him over any back in this draft with the exception of a healthy Gurley.We're paying the price right now, for this stupidity of believing in over the hill RBs. Constantly expecting one more year out of old RBs is a fools errand. Plus, we haven't drafted a starting RB since Jamal Anderson. I'm sick of it. No.More.FA.RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 So which ILB's in this draft would you prefer we select to supplant Worrilow (and Bartu) because our ILB play has been pretty bad all year long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 So which ILB's in this draft would you prefer we select to supplant Worrilow (and Bartu) because our ILB play has been pretty bad all year long.LB talent is pretty poor in this draft. Target FA, imo, if that's what you want, though I really think the lack of pass rush is making them look worse than they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 LB talent is pretty poor in this draft. Target FA, imo, if that's what you want, though I really think the lack of pass rush is making them look worse than they are.Agree that lack of pass rush hurts but our LB's are not very good at all. I would argue that they are partially responsible for the lack of pass rush. We have to upgrade the position in the offseason and I think we will in both FA and the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 We're paying the price right now, for this stupidity of believing in over the hill RBs. Constantly expecting one more year out of old RBs is a fools errand. Plus, we haven't drafted a starting RB since Jamal Anderson. I'm sick of it. No.More.FA.RBs.Turner was a really good FA running back for us. SJax?...not so much. Frankly I think there are some good RBs to be had in rds 2, 3 & 4 this year and would love to take one. But like I said we have lots of holes so if we opt for defense or oline instead then I have no problem with us picking up a FA back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Turner was a really good FA running back for us. SJax?...not so much. Frankly I think there are some good RBs to be had in rds 2, 3 & 4 this year and would love to take one. But like I said we have lots of holes so if we opt for defense or oline instead then I have no problem with us picking up a FA back.Turner is the exception. FA RBs like Turner are one in a million. Most aren't worth the money. Draft them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 peterson will want 10mil a season....no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Odds are that you are right on Rex Ryan not becoming the Falcons coach. Just saying I think he would be a good fit. While Shraeder has filled in admirably, I wouldn't anoint him our RT of the future just yet. I'd still like to see us bring in a guy like we did with Carimi this year to compete, especially if we don't draft one (which I didn't in the mock) I think Barron is much more talented than Ishmael from a skills perspective. Our safety depth isn't great and this is a way to get a talented guy. Mostly an upside play from my perspective. I don't disagree that a second round RB would be another path to go instead of AP...certainly cheaper and possibly better over the long term. We only have one second round pick at the moment and I chose to use it on defense. Graham for sure has played some standing up. Glad to hear that Graham can play OLB. With the recent re-injury of Moore, I see your point about our lack of Safety depth. The two free agents that I like are: Patrick Willis and Iupati. Both are Niners and both would fit our needs. Willis has his injury history, so a health check is a must. If he is OK, he would be a major upgrade in the front seven. With his athleticism, physical skills and motor, the defense would see an immediate improvement. Iupati would be my choice to replace Blalock. I like JB, but I'd like to see more for may money at that position. The Big I is extremely mobile and is a much better run blocker than JB. I think that he would provide the missing link to our short yardage success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Perryman is just a smaller, slower version of Worrilow. Can't shed blocks, can't cover. No thanks.So wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 So wrong. Every time I see Perryman play, he's good for a few great hits, but every one of them are unblocked. Any time he gets engaged, whether it's an OL, TE or FB, he can't get off the block. And coverage is an entirely different animal which he clearly doesn't well take to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Every time I see Perryman play, he's good for a few great hits, but every one of them are unblocked. Any time he gets engaged, whether it's an OL, TE or FB, he can't get off the block. And coverage is an entirely different animal which he clearly doesn't well take to.He is unblocked for a reason. It's not as if the offence he is playing against just decides "hey let's help Denzel's draft stock on this plays". Perryman shoots gaps quickly not allowing a block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 He is unblocked for a reason. It's not as if the offence he is playing against just decides "hey let's help Denzel's draft stock on this plays". Perryman shoots gaps quickly not allowing a block. Which is a result of him playing in an aggressive 4-3 defense the Hurricanes run. We don't do that. Our LBs need to be able to read, react, and work through traffic. Perryman can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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