Opinions On Rex Ryan / His Record Vs Nfcs

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

Hey y'all - got a couple questions / thoughts on Rex Ryan as a HC (I'm 50/50 on it personally but I never paid any real attention to the Jets or him).

1. How is his record vs. the NFCS? Specifically our main rivals - Coach Vicodin and the Taints

2. Does anyone have solid reasons why his record has stunk with the Jets lately?

3. How does he maintain a locker room? Will he keep it close-knit like we had before or is he gonna be brewing controversy left and right?

4. How is he in the playoffs?

[paulitik]

People are going to blame the QB and the talent, but honestly, I don't think an outspoken guy like Rex isn't in control of the players his GM is getting him. If he wants to be the DC, I'm cool with that, but I'd rather get someone like Bowles or Quinn. I said in another thread, I'd rather get Josh McDaniels than Rex as a HC.

[paulitik]

His playoff record is much better than Smitty's. Still not sold.

[youngbloodz]

A lot of the Jets issues are because their last two gms have absolutely sucked. I prefer Rex as a DC. But I wouldn't be upset if he is hired as HC. He still needs grooming though. He would work magic for our defense. Best defensive mind in football

[etherdome]

People are going to blame the QB and the talent, but honestly, I don't think an outspoken guy like Rex isn't in control of the players his GM is getting him. If he wants to be the DC, I'm cool with that, but I'd rather get someone like Bowles or Quinn. I said in another thread, I'd rather get Josh McDaniels than Rex as a HC.

I am neither in favor nor against Rex Ryan, but it is a fact that Ryan comes from a defensive background. It can also be said that Ryan has had good defenses in NYC. Smitty also comes from a defensive background. It is interesting that he has not had a good defense in Atl.

[Peyton]

Rex Ryan has a 4-2 record in the playoffs with all 6 playoff gamess coming on the road. He beat Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, and Carson Palmer on the road with Mark Sanchez as his QB in Mark's first two seasons in the league. So his playoff coaching credentials aren't too bad.

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

I am neither in favor nor against Rex Ryan, but it is a fact that Ryan comes from a defensive background. It can also be said that Ryan has had good defenses in NYC. Smitty also comes from a defensive background. It is interesting that he has not had a good defense in Atl.

Yea the Jets defense is lights out each year, even though they lose good players. On the other hand, ATL's defenses have been trash except 2012.

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

Rex Ryan has a 4-2 record in the playoffs with all 6 playoff wins coming on the road. He beat Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, and Carson Palmer on the road with Mark Sanchez as his QB in Mark's first two seasons in the league. So his playoff coaching credentials aren't too bad.

Yea I feel like playoff record is a better judge than overall record. Look at what Smitty has won us with his great overall record. But then there are some coaches that have both. But could Ryan's losing record be placed on lack of an offense overall? I dunno.

[Guest Negatorris]

He's way better than Smith in the playoffs.

[kiwifalcon]

For me its Rex's personality he just hasn't met a camera or a microphone he doesn't like and while this can be appealing to some for me I find it obnoxious.

Can he coach yes he can.The question for me are there any other better fits out there yes there is in my eyes.

To me I've been ummimg and arghing about the guy.I don't want the guy as the falcons next HC.

[Drunken Minotaur Zebra]

For me its Rex's personality he just hasn't met a camera or a microphone he doesn't like and while this can be appealing to some for me I find it obnoxious.

Can he coach yes he can.The question for me are there any other better fits out there yes there is in my eyes.

To me I've been ummimg and arghing about the guy.I don't want the guy as the falcons next HC.

I'm on the Bowles/Quinn train but more like 60/40 now on Ryan. I do like the idea of a dominant defense with Matt Ryan leading the O.

[kiwifalcon]

I'm on the Bowles/Quinn train but more like 60/40 now on Ryan. I do like the idea of a dominant defense with Matt Ryan leading the O.

Yeah maybe so but I just hate the drama sometimes it feels like I'm watching a soap opera when listening to this guy.

I don't have any worries about him running a defense but HC as above yikes.In the end run though all AB cares about is filling the new stadium and collecting those dollar bills.

[paulitik]

I am neither in favor nor against Rex Ryan, but it is a fact that Ryan comes from a defensive background. It can also be said that Ryan has had good defenses in NYC. Smitty also comes from a defensive background. It is interesting that he has not had a good defense in Atl.

I have no doubt Ryan could improve our Defense, but I think Bowles or Quinn could too. I just worry about what i've seen with Rex in NYC. He's stubborn, and I feel like he'd meddle too much. At least with Quinn and Bowles, we don't know. With Rex, we've seen his resume, and while he had some impressive Defenses, his overall job has been lackluster.

[raysnill1]

I wouldn't hate having Rex as long as he left the offense alone. It would be cool if he became the HC & hired Wade Phillips as his DC. Have those 2 ever worked together?

[B_Lo_Touchdowns]

His team has been bad cause he knows nothing about offense. He's a tough defense/3 yards and a cloud of dust type of HC. His decision making on the offensive side of the ball is where the problems lay. He got away from "ground and pound" and concentrated to much on emulating The Patriots.

[UnrealfalcoN]

I have no doubt Ryan could improve our Defense, but I think Bowles or Quinn could too. I just worry about what i've seen with Rex in NYC. He's stubborn, and I feel like he'd meddle too much. At least with Quinn and Bowles, we don't know. With Rex, we've seen his resume, and while he had some impressive Defenses, his overall job has been lackluster.

Of course he has to meddle in when career backups are leading his team and they can't score enough to win games his defense has won for them. Then the blame comes to the HC, where he has to take responsibility for both sides. He's never had a franchise QB whom he had entrust the offense to like Matt.

[paulitik]

Of course he has to meddle in when career backups and leading his team and they can't score enough to win games his defense has won for them. Then the blame comes to the HC, where he has to take responsibility for both sides. He's never had a franchise QB whom he had entrust the offense to like Matt.

I worry because when he had Sanchez, he played him like he was Ben Reothelsberger, when he should have been in a WCO. I don't see Rex letting an OC make the best out of the talent, I see Rex wanting a Mike Mularkey style offense, and forcing the offense to fit his philosophy. I don't think an aerial attack offense with a franchise QB would thrive under him, I think it would regress.

[Cali_Falcon_1184]

I am neither in favor nor against Rex Ryan, but it is a fact that Ryan comes from a defensive background. It can also be said that Ryan has had good defenses in NYC. Smitty also comes from a defensive background. It is interesting that he has not had a good defense in Atl.

^^^this x100 I am not against or in favor of him coming here and I am not too sold on bringing in another former coordinator here because some coaches are better at being a coordinator than being a head coach. For Smth to be around that dominant Ravens defense and come here and not do anything is just baffling

[The Martyr]

I'm kinda stressin about the confusion between Matt Ryan and Rex Ryan if he gets hired. How will we know who anyone is talking about? lol

[Osiruz]

Lol they never tried that. Teams key on chris ivory and cj2k because their qbs aren't competent. They don't know how to check out of running plays, and aren't good at hitting qbs in stride. If we do get rex and keep koetter we'll be fine.

His team has been bad cause he knows nothing about offense. He's a tough defense/3 yards and a cloud of dust type of HC. His decision making on the offensive side of the ball is where the problems lay. He got away from "ground and pound" and concentrated to much on emulating The Patriots.

Lol they never tried that. Teams key on chris ivory and cj2k because their qbs aren't competent. They don't know how to check out of running plays, and aren't good at hitting wrs in stride. If we do get rex and keep koetter we'll be fine. Edited December 20, 2014 by osiruz

[Since1990]

I'm not sold on Rex, but I love this organization and I'll go with whoever or whatever they decide to do.

The one major thing that I have seen with Rex Ryan is that his players Love him and they play hard for him! But, like it or not, you have to say the same for Smitty!!

[DonDaLuvMaker]

His team has been bad cause he knows nothing about offense. He's a tough defense/3 yards and a cloud of dust type of HC. His decision making on the offensive side of the ball is where the problems lay. He got away from "ground and pound" and concentrated to much on emulating The Patriots.

His teams haven't been bad because of the simple fact that he doesn't know offense. Its normal for the side of the ball were the HC is least common with to lack.

To counter that, HCs usually have to bring in a strong minded OC/DC to mostly run that side of the ball to offset it.

His teams have been bad because he hasn't had an OC that was good enough take over the reigns of the offense.

[niels petersen]

I worry because when he had Sanchez, he played him like he was Ben Reothelsberger, when he should have been in a WCO. I don't see Rex letting an OC make the best out of the talent, I see Rex wanting a Mike Mularkey style offense, and forcing the offense to fit his philosophy. I don't think an aerial attack offense with a franchise QB would thrive under him, I think it would regress.

While I don't necessarily disagree about the decline of a franchise aerial attack QB, I do think you have a point..

Though I actually wouldn't mind Rex as a HC, I am worried about the OC that he might bring in.. I don't think his track record with the types of OCs he has dealt with is very encouraging, and it is definitely important to get an understanding for Rex's offensive preferences and philosophies if he were to come here.. Imagine if he brought Mornhinweg with him as his OC here??? Ugh..

That said, with all the beef between Rex and the GM in NY we will have to figure out how much of an input Rex has with personnel decisions and on the offensive side of the ball, if we want to shortlist him as our new HC.. He will probably bring what we need regarding a better defensive scheme and philosophy as well as fire and emotion, but if he also brings less desirable things like control over the offensive side and stuff like that, then we really have to be careful..

[niels petersen]

I'm not sold on Rex, but I love this organization and I'll go with whoever or whatever they decide to do.

The one major thing that I have seen with Rex Ryan is that his players Love him and they play hard for him! But, like it or not, you have to say the same for Smitty!!

I think both coaches are loved by their players, and I think both get their players playing pretty hard.. The thing about Rex is that he has a lot more attitude. That is something that really rubs off on his players, I think, while Smitty is seems much more grounded and emotionally. This attitude is great to have when youre a winning football team, but it can also wear thin if things aren't going right.. That said, I think we would be a good fit for Rex as we have a great veteran core to build around which should keep us on the right track while Rex coaches up everybody.. I wouldn't mind him here..

If both coaches are loved by their players although in different ways, I really do feel like Rex will be an upgrade since he has been able to win in the post-season with Mr. Sanchize as his QB..

[Since1990]

I think both coaches are loved by their players, and I think both get their players playing pretty hard.. The thing about Rex is that he has a lot more attitude. That is something that really rubs off on his players, I think, while Smitty is seems much more grounded and emotionally. This attitude is great to have when youre a winning football team, but it can also wear thin if things aren't going right.. That said, I think we would be a good fit for Rex as we have a great veteran core to build around which should keep us on the right track while Rex coaches up everybody.. I wouldn't mind him here..

If both coaches are loved by their players although in different ways, I really do feel like Rex will be an upgrade since he has been able to win in the post-season with Mr. Sanchize as his QB..

Fair enough. Good post