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Matt Ryan is a great QB -

who would be elite if----IF

He had just an average defense and

he had a average running game, and

an average oline

Unfortunately he has the worst defense in the league

And sub-par oline and running game

Even if Aaron Rodgers was on this Falcons team instead of Matt Ryan we would still be a sub .500 team

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Matt Ryan is a great QB -

who would be elite if----IF

He had just an average defense and

he had a average running game, and

an average oline

Unfortunately he has the worst defense in the league

And sub-par oline and running game

Even if Aaron Rodgers was on this Falcons team instead of Matt Ryan we would still be a sub .500 team

The worst argument people make is saying "If _____ was on this team we'd still be this bad". No we wouldn't. The better QB's chew up the clock, makes better plays, and give the defense a break. Our defense is 24th in the league in points allowed which is actually not bad for as often as the 3 and out offense sends them back on the field

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The worst argument people make is saying "If _____ was on this team we'd still be this bad". No we wouldn't. The better QB's chew up the clock, makes better plays, and give the defense a break. Our defense is 24th in the league in points allowed which is actually not bad for as often as the 3 and out offense sends them back on the field

You are normally one of the most rational guys on this forum.A suk asz defense and a horrible Oline.

Lemme put it another way.

If Brady was on this team he would suk too.

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You are normally one of the most rational guys on this forum.A suk asz defense and a horrible Oline.

Lemme put it another way.

If Brady was on this team he would suk too.

But he wouldn't. The defense would be practicing against Brady each week. He doesn't accept failure at positions around him. Their o-line had all sorts of criticism early in this season and if Brady got sacked he chewed out that lineman. Suddenly their line became good again.

Good players make better players of those around them. Look how many RB's and WR's Brady has gone through over the years. They go elsewhere and suck. Brady elevates everyone.

Ryan's biggest issue is shrugging and have the "oh well get em next time" personality

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But he wouldn't. The defense would be practicing against Brady each week. He doesn't accept failure at positions around him. Their o-line had all sorts of criticism early in this season and if Brady got sacked he chewed out that lineman. Suddenly their line became good again.

Good players make better players of those around them. Look how many RB's and WR's Brady has gone through over the years. They go elsewhere and suck. Brady elevates everyone.

Ryan's biggest issue is shrugging and have the "oh well get em next time" personality

This is an advanced Leadership that is hard for some to understand. It's a Mentality that drives performance with full acceptance of responsibility for the team and a desire for greatness. Brady stayed winning when Gronk was hurt, Hernandez on Trial, Amendola hurt, Lagarette Blunt going to another team and coming back to them (and he's balling again - surprise!), Wes leaving to Denver, etc..

I've said over and over Brady is like the Kobe Bryant of the NFL, he is extremely competitive and really hates losing...Ryan is content with losing, because he knows he'll "get another shot". Maybe Ryan doesn't show Passion (he used to) because of his expectation to Protect The Brand, but it seems like he's traded money for that passion for winning, when it's really ok for him to have both.

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This is an advanced Leadership that is hard for some to understand. It's a Mentality that drives performance with full acceptance of responsibility for the team and a desire for greatness. Brady stayed winning when Gronk was hurt, Hernandez on Trial, Amendola hurt, Lagarette Blunt going to another team and coming back to them (and he's balling again - surprise!), Wes leaving to Denver, etc..

I've said over and over Brady is like the Kobe Bryant of the NFL, he is extremely competitive and really hates losing...Ryan is content with losing, because he knows he'll "get another shot". Maybe Ryan doesn't show Passion (he used to) because of his expectation to Protect The Brand, but it seems like he's traded money for that passion for winning, when it's really ok for him to have both.

Like Kobe and Jordan, the other Patriots both fear and respect Brady so much, they do what they have to do to improve. They do not want to let the QB down.

It's the reason a TE like Julius Thomas becomes really good. I don't think if we drafted him, he'd be anything special.

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This is an advanced Leadership that is hard for some to understand. It's a Mentality that drives performance with full acceptance of responsibility for the team and a desire for greatness. Brady stayed winning when Gronk was hurt, Hernandez on Trial, Amendola hurt, Lagarette Blunt going to another team and coming back to them (and he's balling again - surprise!), Wes leaving to Denver, etc..

I've said over and over Brady is like the Kobe Bryant of the NFL, he is extremely competitive and really hates losing...Ryan is content with losing, because he knows he'll "get another shot". Maybe Ryan doesn't show Passion (he used to) because of his expectation to Protect The Brand, but it seems like he's traded money for that passion for winning, when it's really ok for him to have both.

You keep comparing ryan to green bay and new england who have infinitely better front offices. Ryan is going out there and doing pretty well with foolish, predictable coaches.

The Ryan trolls are just stupid. There are so much bigger problems, but the witless TATF lemurs diarrhea on because Ryan isn't Brady or Rodgers. You stick either of these qbs with this dumbazz coaching staff and hare brained GM with the worst defense in the league and you think we win 4 straight super bowls?

You mongoloids should be playing checkers with Swift in his mothers basement.

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Like Kobe and Jordan, the other Patriots both fear and respect Brady so much, they do what they have to do to improve. They do not want to let the QB down.

It's the reason a TE like Julius Thomas becomes really good. I don't think if we drafted him, he'd be anything special.

And you know this how? How did you teach your anus to type, because u are posting out of your azz.

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And you know this how? How did you teach your anus to type, because u are posting out of your azz.

Because outside of Randy Moss, there hasn't been a skill position player that left New England and became anything, despite how good they looked there

Heck, even Randy was nothing when he left, he was crap in Oakland before. Brady elevates everyone

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Matt Ryan is a great QB -

who would be elite if----IF

He had just an average defense and

he had a average running game, and

an average oline

Unfortunately he has the worst defense in the league

And sub-par oline and running game

Even if Aaron Rodgers was on this Falcons team instead of Matt Ryan we would still be a sub .500 team

lol ryan makes a ton of rookie mistakes pocket presence is a joke to start

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It's hard to be a leader when you know week in and week out you're playing for coach's who are on their way out the door and your gonna have to start over again.

Agreed. Compound that with the absolute beating he has taken these past two seasons, and no real breakthrough on how to remedy the issues with the team. As fans we are frustrated as h*ll, can you imagine how it must feel as a player.

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