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if we can be in the playoffs, call me short sighted, but i wanna be there.

Remember how it felt after greenbay or the Giants playoff losses?

Then top off the drop in draft picking order. Our record says top 10 by hosting a playoff game means last teams to pick.

This might be the combination that causes these boards to explode.

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Remember how it felt after greenbay or the Giants playoff losses?

Then top off the drop in draft picking order. Our record says top 10 by hosting a playoff game means last teams to pick.

This might be the combination that causes these boards to explode.

We will just draft a DE bust if that scenario doesn't happen...WFW is just sayin'

God WFW wants a dominant pass rusher

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Remember how it felt after greenbay or the Giants playoff losses?

Then top off the drop in draft picking order. Our record says top 10 by hosting a playoff game means last teams to pick.

This might be the combination that causes these boards to explode.

remember how it felt about 5 minutes before the game started? pretty ******* awesome right? you cant win if you dont play

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I'm hoping the Saints or Falcons win the division. I want our top 10 pick. Panthers need that top 10 pick. Need an NFL quality LT and RT...need a speedy #2 WR. Need guards. Or Need to trade out of it and pick up more picks..if nothing is available that we really need at our spot.

I just know it's going to be a beyotch.....for the division winner to look below.......and see the other teams in the division with a top 10 pick...with a record only slightly worse than the division champs... while they are forced into a bottom 10 pick.

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Even if you use that top 10 pick as trade bait you cant have a solid draft full of potential replacements. And picking in the 10`s is still better than picking late in the following rounds.

not to mention if talent drops and you wanna move up to get one. Its easier to trade back up.

I remember we won that useless *** redskin game last season in the final seconds and it almost screwed us in the draft we almost lost getting Mathews.

Im not saying take the season. But our record is our record and we suck. we are who they thought we are. yes if healthy we are very good. But 2 years of injuries means its times for some changes. Our depth chart hurts.

I just cant believe the rest of the south sucks worse than us. This is farging incredible.

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I'm hoping the Saints or Falcons win the division. I want our top 10 pick. Panthers need that top 10 pick. Need an NFL quality LT and RT...need a speedy #2 WR. Need guards. Or Need to trade out of it and pick up more picks..if nothing is available that we really need at our spot.

I just know it's going to be a beyotch.....for the division winner to look below.......and see the other teams in the division with a top 10 pick...with a record only slightly worse than the division champs... while they are forced into a bottom 10 pick.

Lol I will not give a single ****.

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You may not.. I do.. Panthers have a very serious need at LT/RT.. if they can get one of those spots shored up with a top 10 pick.. I would love it.

Look at how the most sure pick of last year's draft is working out for us lol.

I'm sure he'll be fine, but ask me if I'd rather have him on my team over making a playoff run last year.

**** no. I'd rather have the possibility of post season than sit here with the best player in the nfl, dreaming if next year

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All it takes is one solid offseason for a team to turn it around. The team that can plug up the most holes can get it done.

Saints have holes at #2CB, OG (evans will be cut), C (Lelito will take over), ILB (Hawthorne will be cut), and NT/DT (Bunkley is our only good run stopper).

Drafting La'El Collins or a 2nd rounder at OG will save us. Lelito has played solid in the snaps he's given. I don't get why Goodwin is still in.

After extending Brees, restructuring/pay cuts, etc and cap being projected as high as 145mil and as low as 140mil with the new tv deal, I think Saints will be okay. We're at 159.5mil, reduce roughly 6-10mil after extending Brees, 6mil from evans, 3mil from hawthorne, and 4mil from various pay cuts (2mil from colston, 2mil from bunkley - if no pay cut, they'll just get cut and save us roughly 7mil, but holes an additional hole at WR).

So lets say 159.5mil and after all those moves i listed which will be done (colston/bunkley are the questionable ones), we'll be at 135-140mil. If the projected cap is at 140, we're right there and need to make more moves. If its at 145, we're in good shape to shore up some deficient positions.

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At the start of the 2010 season, Brady signed a 4yr/72mil extension which would average 18mil/yr. That would be straight through the 2014 season (this season). Last year, he signed an additional 3yr/27mil fully guaranteed that would take him to 40 years old and the 2017 season. The extension was for two reasons: Retaining key players and giving him fully guaranteed money so he plays with 0 risk of losing any future earnings.

What was nice was that the cap hits from 2013 and 2014 dropped from a total 43.6mil to 28.6mil, giving them 15.0million in cap relief over 2 years (2013-2014). The downfall, the money has to hit the cap somewhere, but it ended up only adding on 15mil over the span of 3 years (2015-2016-2017).

So even though the extension was 3yr/27mil, the main purpose was to redistribute his 2013 and 2014 cap situations (15.0mil) and turn his future cap hit into 13, 14, and 15mil.

The reason why I say Brees will do the same is because blatantly, fully guaranteed money is where its at. Players play with 0 risk because they're going to make the money whether they play like **** or they get injured badly. They can't be cut easily either because it would be a devastating cap loss (Brady's cap hit is 14.8mil this year, but you'd lose 32.8mil in dead money).

Brady's extension was a VERY cheap hometown discount in hindsight, and Brees knows that as well. Instead of looking at hard numbers, look for percentages to the cap hit and projected: in 2013,the cap was 123mil, projected 2014 was 125mil, 2015 was 128mil, projected 2016 was 135mil, and I couldnt't find one on 2017.

At a 9mil/yr extension, it would eat up roughly 7% of the 2015 projected cap, 6.7% of the 2016 projected cap.

Because we have a better projected graph since its closer and we see the revenue: the 9mil for Brady is closer to 6.2-6.4% (2015: 140-145mil), 5.8-6.0% (2016: 150-155), and 5.4-5.6% (2017: 160-165)

Because we have better numbers, with Brees contract ending in 2016, we can try to project his #s forward. He plays the copycat game of Brady's contract because most people view them as equal in the elite QB department.

2017 projected is: 160-165 so 7% of that is 11.2-11.55mil

2018 projected is: 170-175 so 6.7% of that is 11.39-11.725mil

2019 projected is: 180-185 so 6.5% of that is 11.7-12.025mil

2010 projected is: 190-195 so 6.3% of that is 11.97-12.285mil

So I will be confident in saying, if Brees plays the copycat PERCENTAGE game with Brady, it'll be a 4yr/46mil-47.5mil extension. It'll be a 11.5mil average over 4 years for ease.

Brees' numbers are 26.4mil (2015) and 27.4mil (2016) = 53.8mil over 2 years

So you can try to redistribute roughly 20mil of it and spread it in 2017-2020. 20mil/4yrs = +5mil yr

His cap hit for 2017-2020 would be roughly 16.5mil/yr eating up <10% of the cap and you save 10mil of cap this year and next year. Dropping our 159.5mil total in 2015 to 149.5 and 138.7 to 128.7 in 2016

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At the start of the 2010 season, Brady signed a 4yr/72mil extension which would average 18mil/yr. That would be straight through the 2014 season (this season). Last year, he signed an additional 3yr/27mil fully guaranteed that would take him to 40 years old and the 2017 season. The extension was for two reasons: Retaining key players and giving him fully guaranteed money so he plays with 0 risk of losing any future earnings.What was nice was that the cap hits from 2013 and 2014 dropped from a total 43.6mil to 28.6mil, giving them 15.0million in cap relief over 2 years (2013-2014). The downfall, the money has to hit the cap somewhere, but it ended up only adding on 15mil over the span of 3 years (2015-2016-2017).So even though the extension was 3yr/27mil, the main purpose was to redistribute his 2013 and 2014 cap situations (15.0mil) and turn his future cap hit into 13, 14, and 15mil.The reason why I say Brees will do the same is because blatantly, fully guaranteed money is where its at. Players play with 0 risk because they're going to make the money whether they play like **** or they get injured badly. They can't be cut easily either because it would be a devastating cap loss (Brady's cap hit is 14.8mil this year, but you'd lose 32.8mil in dead money).Brady's extension was a VERY cheap hometown discount in hindsight, and Brees knows that as well. Instead of looking at hard numbers, look for percentages to the cap hit and projected: in 2013,the cap was 123mil, projected 2014 was 125mil, 2015 was 128mil, projected 2016 was 135mil, and I couldnt't find one on 2017.At a 9mil/yr extension, it would eat up roughly 7% of the 2015 projected cap, 6.7% of the 2016 projected cap.Because we have a better projected graph since its closer and we see the revenue: the 9mil for Brady is closer to 6.2-6.4% (2015: 140-145mil), 5.8-6.0% (2016: 150-155), and 5.4-5.6% (2017: 160-165)Because we have better numbers, with Brees contract ending in 2016, we can try to project his #s forward. He plays the copycat game of Brady's contract because most people view them as equal in the elite QB department.2017 projected is: 160-165 so 7% of that is 11.2-11.55mil2018 projected is: 170-175 so 6.7% of that is 11.39-11.725mil2019 projected is: 180-185 so 6.5% of that is 11.7-12.025mil2010 projected is: 190-195 so 6.3% of that is 11.97-12.285milSo I will be confident in saying, if Brees plays the copycat PERCENTAGE game with Brady, it'll be a 4yr/46mil-47.5mil extension. It'll be a 11.5mil average over 4 years for ease.Brees' numbers are 26.4mil (2015) and 27.4mil (2016) = 53.8mil over 2 yearsSo you can try to redistribute roughly 20mil of it and spread it in 2017-2020. 20mil/4yrs = +5mil yrHis cap hit for 2017-2020 would be roughly 16.5mil/yr eating up <10% of the cap and you save 10mil of cap this year and next year. Dropping our 159.5mil total in 2015 to 149.5 and 138.7 to 128.7 in 2016

Thanks professor

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That Dunta contract, err WFW means the Byrd contract has already bitten the saints in the arse and will continue to do so. Same as the Breesus and JG contracts as we can see where the real needs are...

They did it cause they are going all in this year so if they don't do it this year, they will be in worse shape cap wise then us.

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Did u read it?

I couldn't. Lol

One thing is for sure

Loomis will work his cap Magic

Going back, **** I couldn't. I think I was just reading notes and typing at the same time and just confused myself. LOL

Its simple, cap issues are a bit overblown right now (159.5mil). Brees will do a similar extension to Brady, which frees up somewhere around 5-10mil in cap space depending on how much it is and how long it is for. The projected cap is at 140, but many people on the inside actually believe it'll be 145 based off what happened this past offseason.

Then add on the fact that we have 4 players that can be cut without much dead space, we actually can get below 140mil and losing only 1 competent player at the very least.

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