falconsfansrus Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Its the only thing harder to get rid of than Mark Sanchez a Jets personal seat license.Fed-up season-ticket holders are desperately trying to unload their PSLs, setting up a potential mass exodus of Jets fans that could become an even bigger challenge for the team than finding a new general manager.The selling of PSLs pricey licenses for the right to buy season tickets were used by both the Jets and Giants to help fund construction of the $1.6 billion, 82,500-seat MetLife Stadium they share that opened in 2010.Jets fans have seen their investments fall shorter than a Sanchez pass.In the days since Gang Greens miserable season ended, secondary-market Web sites have been flooded with thousands of ads by Jets fans offering PSLs at bargain-basement prices. More than 1,100 Jets PSLs alone were listed for sale last week at seasonticketrights.com, the worlds largest PSL broker. Most were priced well below what fans originally paid.An owner of four Coaches Club PSLs behind the Jets bench paid $30,000 for each seat but is now trying to unload them for $12,000 a pop.Another holder of two nearby seats who paid $60,000 combined is offering his for a total of $20,000.And two mid-level seats that originally carried PSL fees of $4,000 each were up for sale for a mere $500 combined.Ive come to the conclusion its just cheaper to go to road games and buy home games through StubHub, said Kenny Scarabaggio, a season-ticket holder since 1983. This whole PSL process was a rip-off.For two months, Scarabaggio has been trying to peddle his two mid-level mezzanine PSLs for $5,500 well below the roughly $9,000 hes paying on a 15-year plan but cant find a buyer.He says hes now among a growing number of fans considering a flea-flicker of their own: defaulting on remaining PSL payments and gambling that the media-obsessed Jets wont take their season-ticket holders to court.Under the PSL agreements, the Jets are legally entitled to full payment.The topic has even become a hot issue on fan forums usually reserved for bashing the teams play.My feeling is theres going to be a lot of PSL owners who default, said Bill Koy Jr., 41, a Morristown, NJ, lawyer whose family has owned season tickets since 1965, when the Jets first drafted Joe Namath.As a lawyer, Im really curious to see if the Jets would really take their fans to court because of the public-relations hit theyd receive and the costs of such litigation, added Koy, who is not looking to default on his six mid-level PSLs.A team spokesman said the club wants to work with fans through various PSL payment options but declined to say whether it would take delinquent fans to court.Coaches Club tickets run $700 each, so someone with two seats must shell out $14,000 yearly for 10 games including preseason on top of the $60,000 plus interest theyre spending for the PSLs. However, these same tickets went for roughly half-price on StubHub for most games this past season.Id rather take a hit now on the PSLs than continue paying $14,000 year after year for tickets I can get much cheaper through scalpers, said a Manhattan banker, whos trying to dump two Coaches Club PSLs for half the price of the $50,000 he paid.The Jets charge an average of $117.94 per ticket for non-premium seats, tops in the NFL, according to Team Marketing Report. For premium PSL seats in the lower bowl and mezzanine sections, tickets average $301.36, well above the league average of $243.70.However, fans using StubHub and other secondary-market sites this season paid an average of just $85.32, according to TiqIQ, an aggregator of secondary-market ducats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Falcon Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 People will still buy them like it or not and the stadium will be built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfansrus Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 You are right about that, but it seems such a bad investment...You commit yourself to buying tickets for the life of the stadium...30 years; in addition to paying a large amount of money for the psl which you will lose if you forfeit your tickets...Buying tickets thru the secondary market seems to be the right decision... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfishtom Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I agree the PSLs are a total rip-off price gouge,but there are enough people with deep pockets that will pay for them.The Falcons are counting on team loyalty and big corporations that like to give primo tickets to their customers.The actual product being sold this year and last year( Falcons performance) has been poor to mediocre at best.A big fancy expensive stadium........but what happens when the Falcons play ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_own_nfc_south Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I met 20 years Falcons STH yesterday. His wife said my husband might miss to put a food on the table but he won't miss falcons game or buying season ticket. So I was talking to them about PSL and he said that he's not planning to renew his tickets once the falcons move to new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Too pricey for my blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Arthur Blank is just two more seasons of TD and Smittyball from suffering one of the bigger financial setbacks of any pro sports owner in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalist Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Interesting read and insights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I'm not a STH and never have been but would love to have the money to do so. With that said I won't be anytime soon and will be buying single game tickets when the new stadium opens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 at that rate it'll be cheaper to buy 8 tickets to the games on stubhub. GTFO with that ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_own_nfc_south Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) at that rate it'll be cheaper to buy 8 tickets to the games on stubhub. GTFO with that ish.HAHA.. that's what I am thinking. plus I don't need to buy all 8 game tickets if something comes up with the kids Edited November 22, 2014 by falcon_owns_nfc_south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 People will still buy them like it or not and the stadium will be built.I just don't know. This is a fickle sports city and tickets are already cheap and I still see a lot of empty seats at "sold out" games. Raise prices and licenses to see a team struggling hard.....I just don't think people buy it and the Falcons end up having to lower PSL's or eliminate them for cheap seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfansrus Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 at that rate it'll be cheaper to buy 8 tickets to the games on stubhub. GTFO with that ish. I totally agree. This is the way to go and have the flexibility to chose to however many games you would like to go without having to cough up a lot of money for a PSL. Another thing about buying a PSL, you are stuck with it for the life of the stadium, also you are stuck with the obligation of buying season tickets for maybe 30 years...That is a very long commitment...If you forfeit your tickets you lose the money you paid for the PSL. .I've had 50 yard line club seats for many years but I don't see myself buying a PSL to "allow" me to buy the same tickets. I will continue to root for the Falcons from the comfort of my home... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfansrus Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Arthur Blank is just two more seasons of TD and Smittyball from suffering one of the bigger financial setbacks of any pro sports owner in history.You are right about that PokerSteve...Arthur is planning to sell PSLs for very single seat in the new stadium. I think he will have to revisit that plan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The market will decide this. It may be harsher than McKay and Blank anticipate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Greatest Thread of All Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Arthur Blank is just two more seasons of TD and Smittyball from suffering one of the bigger financial setbacks of any pro sports owner in history. The PSL's will be bought, if not by fans, by Delta and all of the other companies that sponsor the team. I'm not sure why people actually believe that anything is going to fail. It's laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman71 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 PSL not worth the money. Especially when you have a team that sucks from the FO down to coaching.Better off using the money to feed your family and watching the games at a sportsbar or home.Not worth dumping that much money to see that ******** on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehus Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) PSL is not going to fail because there is a lot of people in ATL that have money to burn, but the average middle class person needs to know what they are getting into and this is a good article for them to read. Edited November 22, 2014 by Brehus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Combo Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The PSL's will be bought, if not by fans, by Delta and all of the other companies that sponsor the team. I'm not sure why people actually believe that anything is going to fail. It's laughable. This. I will reserve judgement until after they come out with the pricing model around next April/May. If they change their tune on first right refusal of other events going on inside the new stadium and are somewhat reasonably priced, I still may remain a STH. I'm sure they are doing their market research on what people are and aren't willing to pay. Probably going to be a surprise to them at what they learn and hopefully adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
⚡Slumerican⚡ Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 People will still buy them like it or not and the stadium will be built.Who? Do you go to home games? The GA Dome is rarely half full.. With exceptions to Saints game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The PSL's will be bought, if not by fans, by Delta and all of the other companies that sponsor the team. I'm not sure why people actually believe that anything is going to fail. It's laughable. People don't expect the program to fail per se, they expect the stadium to be full of corporate stiffs and actual football fans dumb enough to overpay on the secondary market. But pricing out the middle class fan is a failure too, since you lose the passion and diversity of the gameday crowd, which Blank claimed would match the population outside the stadium. Looks like that was more corporate speak, as always, from this organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 People don't expect the program to fail per se, they expect the stadium to be full of corporate stiffs and actual football fans dumb enough to overpay on the secondary market. But pricing out the middle class fan is a failure too, since you lose the passion and diversity of the gameday crowd, which Blank claimed would match the population outside the stadium. Looks like that was more corporate speak, as always, from this organization. There's no passion in a Falcons crowd anyway and Blank knows this. Anybody that's ever been to the Dome knows this so I'm not sure why it's much of a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 If you have the money, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I had to give up my season tickets after Vick, just had to help out hard up family .... STs first thing to go SMH, but I always find a way to hit 1-2 games a year, but this year aint looking good... I may go to the Panty game at XMAS time, my brother told me he had tix ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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