Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) What in the heck is wrong with you people wanting all these old coaches?Mike Ditka - 75 years oldJoe Gibbs - 73 years oldBill Parcells 73 years oldMike Holmgren - 66 years oldNick Saban - 63 years oldMike Shanahan - 62 years oldTony Dungy - 59 years oldBill Cowher - 57 years oldJon Gruden - 51 years oldGruden is still young enough to give it another run in the NFL but he hasn't coached anywhere since 2008 and hasn't shown any interest in coaching anywhere. Cowher and Dungy could probably still get the job done but again have been out of coaching for years without showing any signs of wanting to come back.It seems that the posters that are fixated on these guys are all wanting "proven NFL head coaches" which is why they keep bringing these guys up. But what you're forgetting is that at one time none of these guys were "proven NFL head coaches." They all had to start somewhere.Why do you not want the Falcons to get the next great HC that in 10-15 years from now will fit on the list of these coaches? That's why the Falcons should be looking at the elite NFL coordinators like Todd Bowles, Dan Quinn, Vic Fagio, ect. Edited November 7, 2014 by Falconsfan567™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Add nick Saban to that list. I think a coach needs 3 years to really get into their swing of things. By that time all these dudes would be banging on the door of retirement. Or death for half of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I heard that Curly Lambeau was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Add nick Saban to that list.I think a coach needs 3 years to really get into their swing of things. By that time all these dudes would be banging on the door of retirement.Or death for half of them...Exactly. I just don't understand it. Why do you want a guy that will be dead in less than 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdBrain53 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I'd take Cowher in a heart beat. Man could motivate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 I'd take Cowher in a heart beat. Man could motivate.Yes he could. But Cowher hasn't coached in the NFL since 2006 and hasn't shown any signs of wanting to come back and coach in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 A guy I think the Falcons should look at is Dennis Allen. He's already got experience as an NFL HC and he's a defensive minded guy which the Falcons really need. Plus he has coached under guys like Dan Reeves (with the Falcons 2002-2005) and Sean Payton (Saints 2006-2010) and was the Broncos DC in 2011. I don't blame him for not being able to win in Oakland. That place is a train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Yes he could. But Cowher hasn't coached in the NFL since 2006 and hasn't shown any signs of wanting to come back and coach in the NFL.Didn't he mention that he was interested in coaching the Panthers before they signed Ron Rivera?I can't remember whether he actually said that, or was that just a rumor at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I dont want a coach just because he could motivate or he's tough. There's a lot more to it than that. Why don't we just pat ray Lewis a million bucks to follow us around and give speeches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 A guy I think the Falcons should look at is Dennis Allen. He's already got experience as an NFL HC and he's a defensive minded guy which the Falcons really need. Plus he has coached under guys like Dan Reeves (with the Falcons 2002-2005) and Sean Payton (Saints 2006-2010) and was the Broncos DC in 2011. I don't blame him for not being able to win in Oakland. That place is a train wreck.Blank would never do it, but I'd be ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Ummm....what about Don Shula? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Blank would never do it, but I'd be ok with it.Why would Blank never consider hiring Dennis Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Didn't he mention that he was interested in coaching the Panthers before they signed Ron Rivera?I can't remember whether he actually said that, or was that just a rumor at the time.Pretty sure it was just media hype because Cowher lives in the Charlotte area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 What in the heck is wrong with you people wanting all these old coaches?Mike Ditka - 75 years oldJoe Gibbs - 73 years oldBill Parcells 73 years oldMike Holmgren - 66 years oldNick Saban - 63 years oldMike Shanahan - 62 years oldTony Dungy - 59 years oldBill Cowher - 57 years oldJon Gruden - 51 years oldGruden is still young enough to give it another run in the NFL but he hasn't coached anywhere since 2008 and hasn't shown any interest in coaching anywhere. Cowher and Dungy could probably still get the job done but again have been out of coaching for years without showing any signs of wanting to come back.It seems that the posters that are fixated on these guys are all wanting "proven NFL head coaches" which is why they keep bringing these guys up. But what you're forgetting is that at one time none of these guys were "proven NFL head coaches." They all had to start somewhere.Why do you not want the Falcons to get the next great HC that in 10-15 years from now will fit on the list of these coaches? That's why the Falcons should be looking at the elite NFL coordinators like Todd Bowles, Dan Quinn, Vic Fagio, ect.So only the way that you think we should go can be discussed? Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Why would Blank never consider hiring Dennis Allen?Probably because his firing is fresh on people's minds. That could be the reason why, it would be different 2 years from now and it would give him time to get that Raiders stank off of him.Just like what happened to Mike Shanahan in the early-mid 90s, then he went on to win back to back SBs as the Broncos HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 So only the way that you think we should go can be discussed? Got it.Ok.......I mean if that's what you got from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Pretty sure it was just media hype because Cowher lives in the Charlotte area.Oh, okay.Yeah, did not know that he lived in that area. I always thought that he would of been living around the Pittsburgh area because he was HC there for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Probably because his firing is fresh on people's minds. That could be the reason why, it would be different 2 years from now and it would give him time to get that Raiders stank off of him.Just like what happened to Mike Shanahan in the early-mid 90s, then he went on to win back to back SBs as the Broncos HC.Good point. But it's a stupid way to do business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Didn't he mention that he was interested in coaching the Panthers before they signed Ron Rivera?I can't remember whether he actually said that, or was that just a rumor at the time.he was interested ... He lives in carolina, I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Oh, okay.Yeah, did not know that he lived in that area. I always thought that he would of been living around the Pittsburgh area becausd he was HC there for 15 years.He was born in Pennsylvania, went to college at NC State, played in the NFL for the Browns and coached the Steelers. It does seem old he lives in the Charlotte area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3TD Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Why do you not want the Falcons to get the next great HC that in 10-15 years from now will fit on the list of these coaches?Because the last time we fired a proven head coach (Reeves), we had to endure the Mora and Petrino experiments, trying to find the "next great coach".That doesn't mean I'm with the people calling for guys who haven't even coached in years, I'm laughing along with you, but I do think it would be nice to go with a more known commodity, as we are starting to get close to wasting all Ryan's prime years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Because the last time we fired a proven head coach (Reeves), we had to endure the Mora and Petrino experiments, trying to find the "next great coach".That doesn't mean I'm with the people calling for guys who haven't even coached in years, I'm laughing along with you, but I do think it would be nice to go with a more known commodity, as we are starting to get close to wasting all Ryan's prime years.It is concerning we are having to do this in the middle of Ryan's prime years. But the Broncos dealt with a similar problem in the middle of Elway's career. That eventually worked out well for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) What in the heck is wrong with you people wanting all these old coaches?Why do you not want the Falcons to get the next great HC that in 10-15 years from now will fit on the list of these coaches?Ok.......I mean if that's what you got from this thread.Well, which question are you asking? What's wrong with people that want old coaches? That implies that something is wrong with them, or that you think they have something to justify about their opinion.Why do you not want the next great etc.? That is a different question, yet somewhat equally insulting. Who wouldn't want a great coach. Perhaps they don't have the certainty about your leading coordinator candidates that you do. I mean, people spoke with certainty about Jairus Byrd as the best safety free agent in years this offseason, he is a bust according to CBS sports today. Do you have the winning Powerball numbers? Edited November 7, 2014 by NOVAFalconFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Why would Blank never consider hiring Dennis Allen?He's trying to save face. Hiring a guy fired just this season in his first year as a coach isn't a great way to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well, which question are you asking? What's wrong with people that want old coaches? That implies that something is wrong with them, or that you think they have something to justify about their opinion.Why do you not want the next great etc.? That is a different question, yet somewhat equally insulting. Who wouldn't want a great coach. Perhaps they don't have the certainty about your leading coordinator candidates that you do. I mean, people spoke with certainty about Jairus Byrd as the best safety free agent in years this offseason, he is a bust according to CBS sports today. Do you have the winning Powerball numbers?First off Byrd got hurt so of course he's going to get labeled a bust.Now onto my point of this thread. Every coach that I listed, except maybe Gruden is past their time as NFL HC's. People talk about those coaches without giving any reasons for why they think those coaches can be successful in today's NFL at their age. Not to mention that most of those coaches probably don't even want to be coaches anymore. Most of those coaches were not successful at the end of their last stint as an NFL head coach. But here's my biggest deal with that line of thinking. Why do you want to hire a coach at that age that won't last long even if they are successful? Why wouldn't you want a coach to hire a coach that has a chance of staying for 10-15 years and being wholly successful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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