Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dunno who or why your thread was deleted. Sorry for any inconvenience and frustration it caused bro. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think higher power mods or maybe guys in the FO don't like too much negativity/criticism when the team is doing poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spankwire Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Let's continue to look elsewhere when our offensive line has been crippled with injuries. Makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dunno who or why your thread was deleted. Sorry for any inconvenience and frustration it caused bro. <3 Man, lol. Been here 10yrs. Not the first and won't be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I think higher power mods or maybe guys in the FO don't like too much negativity/criticism when the team is doing poorly.False. Look at the entire board. Don't start making stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Let's continue to look elsewhere when our offensive line has been crippled with injuries. Makes perfect sense.i can tell you're new...this isn't a new thought from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.Lol, you have stated this on several occasions. Who didn't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Sorry if you give Matt a good O-Line and a good Defense he would be hard to beat. I don't think Ryan has had both at the same time. Even in 2012 the Falcons defense was ok and at times good. Still not what I would have called a Super Bowl team. Maybe with another coach they would have been the team to beat that year. I still think Smith made some bonehead calls that hurt the 2012 team going into the playoffs. We have all seen Ryan with a small window of time. He can carve up any defense then. As long as the WR's do get that chicken to take a hit going again.Ryan may not be the best QB but I would take him on a team I was going to build before 94% of what is in the NFL now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.He isn't Drew Brees. He isn't Peyton or Brady.That isn't a bad thing, but it is if you try to play his similarly to how they are used.He is a GREAT play action QB, makes good decisions, and is money on short and medium throws.He is NOT an air it out kind of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spankwire Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 i can tell you're new...this isn't a new thought from me.No, I'm not new. You love Michael Turner and you hate the new pass happy NFL. Now that we've gotten that out of the way....Show me an offense that was successful after losing as many players as we have on the offensive line. We can put our defensive struggles on the back-burner for a moment. Just point out some teams for me and let's do some comparative analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spankwire Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 He isn't Drew Brees. He isn't Peyton or Brady.That isn't a bad thing, but it is if you try to play his similarly to how they are used.He is a GREAT play action QB, makes good decisions, and is money on short and medium throws.He is NOT an air it out kind of guy.How did Brady look earlier this year when his offensive line was asleep at the wheel? Anyone?Can you point out some years where Brady, Peyton or Brees had to play behind a line as poor as ours? Do any of you remember Peyton Manning losing playoff game after playoff game when his teams had "protection issues" < direct quote from Manning? This is a team sport. The attention people lavish on the quarterback position is absolutely absurd. If the quarterback position was as important as people make it out to be, Peyton Manning would have a fistful of rings. He doesn't, though. Despite how insanely talented he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 If everybody in the league had the same offensive line, I think Matt Ryan is a top 5 QB. We have no run game, no defense and a bunch of nobodies protecting him; he doesn't stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vafalconfan Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.Give him more than 2 seconds before getting drilled and he'll be fine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokezone Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.Its not the coachingIts not an atrocious defenseIts not a TE that can't catchIt's not high profile Wr dropping ballsIt's not Orange cones for OlinemanIt's not the incompetent Running gamethe problem is our probowl Qb seems legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 He isn't Drew Brees. He isn't Peyton or Brady.That isn't a bad thing, but it is if you try to play his similarly to how they are used.He is a GREAT play action QB, makes good decisions, and is money on short and medium throws.He is NOT an air it out kind of guy.BOOM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) Issue at hand is TD wants all star WRs and weapons when in reality, if you give most QBs a decent line, they don't need all star WRs any more. Edited November 3, 2014 by Genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.Sorry friend, got to call you out on that one. You wouldn't be pass happy with any QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownorg Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Honestly behind our line NO QB is gonna look good.We fix the line and give Matty a defense than can actually get off the field once in a while and I'm sure He'll be more than fine. But as the team is right now, he's lucky to still be standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Sorry friend, got to call you out on that one. You wouldn't be pass happy with any QB.I enjoyed NE vs Den... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Homer the Brave Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 No, he's not a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, or Brees, but his IS at least a Flacco, Eli, Dilfer, and perhaps Wilson or Big Ben... All who have rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I enjoyed NE vs Den...Yeah, but that's not how you would put a team together.And, if you're claiming that Ryan isn't as good as Manning or Brady, not gettting any argument from me. Would also note that they've had better coaching for their entire careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spankwire Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Football games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage. It's always been that way, and I'm guessing it will never change. In my opinion, if your team is getting beat on both sides of the line, nothing else matters. I don't care if you have Joe Montana and Calvin Johnson, if your offensive line is one of the worst in the league, you won't go far. Likewise, if your defensive front gets pushed around and can't get pressure on the quarterback, nothing else matters. I don't care if you have Ray Lewis and Ronnie Lott, you won't go far. The funny thing is, no one will tell you you are wrong when you say "this game is won in the trenches", but when you apply that logic to an actual team, people will still talk about other variables. Cognitive dissonance, imo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Its not the coachingIts not an atrocious defenseIts not a TE that can't catchIt's not high profile Wr dropping ballsIt's not Orange cones for OlinemanIt's not the incompetent Running gamethe problem is our probowl Qb seems legitI said he is a great fantasy QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Matt Ryan is why I am not Thrilled at being pass happy. He is not as good as many make him to be. Fantasy numbers...sure.We get it, he's no Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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