fansince78 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The guys that are injured might be 2nd string on a good team, but they are not superstars like some people make them out to be.Spoon you say? Clay Matthews he is not. Never was impressed by him at all.Hawley? A decent 2nd string player.Baker? A wasted draft pick all together.Konz? Another waste of a draft pick.Holmes? Yeah right....The Falcons have injuries, but those players were not all that great to begin with. Come on people...look at the players who were drafted by this team over the last 7 years and who was available when they were. TD has no ability to evaluate talent. This team sucks because this team sucks and injuries are just a part of the game that good teams can overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 People who are (inexplicably) in love with the idea of Smith and Dimitroff staying will use any excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface1856 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Spoon a second stringer? You left off William Moore's extended injury. Also a back injury to Blaylock and Jake's ankle that looks to be still bothering him. Mike Johnson, and to a lesser extent 5th round pick Spruill, Motta and Drew Davis.Depth players and key contributors out or banged up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Even with injuries, there is no reason why we should be getting beat like a red-headed step child every SundayThere is a simple explanation for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface1856 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 People who are (inexplicably) in love with the idea of Smith and Dimitroff staying will use any excuse.It doesn't take someone in love with Coach Smith & Dmitroff or a scientist to see that injuries have contributed to the success of the Falcons this year.Even with injuries, there is no reason why we should be getting beat like a red-headed step child every SundayThere is a simple explanation for thatDo tell. Quickly too, so we can win this terrible division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Spoon a second stringer? You left off William Moore's extended injury. Yeah. Sorry. Spoon is a lot of hype and that is about it. He would make a good 2nd string LB and special teams player. Moore is good, but you want great from a starter if you have playoff expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't take someone in love with Coach Smith & Dmitroff or a scientist to see that injuries have contributed to the success of the Falcons this year.Do tell. Quickly too, so we can win this terrible division.Coaching would be a good start. But don't expect anything to change when it never has before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It doesn't take someone in love with Coach Smith & Dmitroff or a scientist to see that injuries have contributed to the success of the Falcons this year.Do tell. Quickly too, so we can win this terrible division.Do a little homework.How many people did the Packers have injured when they got their Lombardi after the 2010 season?I'll save you the time...16 people on IR, 7 of them starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Every team deals with injuries, so bringing it up is nothing but an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Good post OP but unfortunately you will have some that will stop in here and make the injury excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I mean...we are on our 4th string RT and our 3rd string Center. That is sort of ridiculous if you ask me. It has clearly made a difference on the offense. Defense however has no excuses. They sucked to begin with and they suck now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Do a little homework.How many people did the Packers have injured when they got their Lombardi after the 2010 season?I'll save you the time...16 people on IR, 7 of them starters.Here's the thing though......what about all of the other teams in the last 15 years to have major injuries? Most of them have serious issues winning games. When you're talking about big dollars, do you point at the one guy who won the lottery or the 200 million that didnt?Injuries aren't the only cause of our struggles but they're sure as **** a huge part of it. As is evidenced by the near linear "injuries to declining level of play" situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The only team that can literally blame their entire season on injuries is the 1970 Marshall Thundering Herd. I mean...they could if they weren't all dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanForLife Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Rather than blame injuries for the record, it has become apparent to me that for some weird reason TD cannot draft players who are durable. Yes, I know you cannot predict injuries, but just look how horrible his key draft picks are at staying healthy. Worse yet, he still clings on to them. How many of us did not know Sam Baker would never play another full season? How many of us expect either Weatherspoon or Moore to be durable enough to count on for a full season? Since I am just a fan I can have my superstitions. For me, it is obvious that TD has some keen knack for picking brittle players. I can't think it is the strength/conditioning coaches as we have been through a few in his tenure. The guy just seems to have a jinx on him. When we drafted Matthews one of my happiest thoughts was he comes from a long line of durable players, so hopefully the TD curse won't get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 When the Bears arrived in ATL.. they played without there entire LB corp... Lance Briggs an All Pro LB, and 2 productive starters. They were also missing there best Corner. They still held us to 13 points.Lance Briggs hasn't been an All Pro LB since 2005.....and he's been a struggling LB for 3 or 4 years. Their other "productive starters" are terrible. The backups played better than the starters did. And they weren't missing their best corner....he played the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I honestly forgot Lance Briggs was still playing until the Bears game. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Here's the thing though......what about all of the other teams in the last 15 years to have major injuries? Most of them have serious issues winning games.When you're talking about big dollars, do you point at the one guy who won the lottery or the 200 million that didnt?Injuries aren't the only cause of our struggles but they're sure as **** a huge part of it. As is evidenced by the near linear "injuries to declining level of play" situation.I just don't think that the Falcons record would be markedly different if everyone injured was healthy and starting.It's a seriously flawed team with questionable coaching and a faltering front office.Having said that though I can see a scenario where Dimitroff saves his job by selling the injury angle to Blank.......unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 But the Motown Loins are frigging LOADED. L*O*A*D*E*D.I can't for the life of me figure out how that team doesn't win 12 games a year, regardless of who's coaching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I just don't think that the Falcons record would be markedly different if everyone injured was healthy and starting.It's a seriously flawed team with questionable coaching and a faltering front office.Having said that though I can see a scenario where Dimitroff saves his job by selling the injury angle to Blank.......unfortunately.So you do not see difference in the offense in the first 3 or 4 weeks vs what we saw this past sunday???Really Gritz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 So you do not see difference in the offense in the first 3 or 4 weeks vs what we saw this past sunday???Really Gritz?Oh, I see a marked difference in the offense.It still wouldn't patch over the God-awful defense that is being trotted out there every Sunday....and ultimately the season would end up with about the same record IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 And btw OP just because YOU are not impressed with guys it does not mean they would not make our team better.Can anyone sit here and honestly say a healthy Sam Baker at LT and a healthy Jake Mattews would not have made a ginormous difference this past sunday??Our defense is better with Spoon than with out him... that is not even in debate.Konz and Holmes both took their lumps in 2013 but both... Holmes more so due to more snap showed VAST improvement from last year to this year.having those guys hurt has hurt our team........... If it was JUST baker it would be one thing but we have not put an ENTIRE offensive line on Ir ( 5 players) we have had another 2 miss games and whole both of those guys have played the last couple of weeks it is clear neither of them are healthy.So when you have 7 injured offensive linemen .... yeah that is going to wreck havoc on your team... ANY team..... especially when you consider most teams only dress 8 linemen.You may be tired of people blaming injuries, but I am tired of people not acknowledging just how much 1 injury let alone 7 can do to one unit and one team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 to the poster above ^ the Falcons offense was awful vs Cincy . The Falcons offense has really played 2 crisp games and that was at home vs Saints opening day and home vs Buccaneers which in reality of situation are two of NFL worst defenses in league. So to blame the offense has taken a step back cause of the offensive line injuries is clearly misguided. Falcons offense beat up on two poor defenses at home . Nothing more nothing lessEven vs Cinci Ryan had time to get the ball out of his hands.The fact is after 3 games we were 2-1 and we were winning in the 4th quarter in game 4 movingthe ball well and giving Ryan plenty of time.....then we lost 3 linemen forcing us to use a TE as a RT and our offense has not looked the same since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3TD Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm tired of people making threads for the sole reason of questioning who others blame for our problems.Look, when things go wrong, people look for something to blame. Since we do not know everything that goes on behind the scenes, the places of blame will vary. It gets tiresome reading nothing but "I know why this team has problems and you don't".I for one await Blank to make some needed changes, so we can find out if they can fix them or not. No need to be arrogant that I know what will fix this team's woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm tired of people making threads for the sole reason of questioning who others blame for our problems.Look, when things go wrong, people look for something to blame. Since we do not know everything that goes on behind the scenes, the places of blame will vary. It gets tiresome reading nothing but "I know why this team has problems and you don't".I for one await Blank to make some needed changes, so we can find out if they can fix them or not. No need to be arrogant that I know what will fix this team's woes. That is where I am..............I really would be interested to see how much Smitty actually does with the game plans..............of course he has the final say but he does not call the plays during the game...nor does he do the substitutions.S I am really interested in exactly how hands on he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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