BrandonDell_ 2,323 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Why is he all of a sudden good at receiver? Talking to bears fans during the offseason and they would tell you he was one of the worst receivers ever lol . He had Ashlon and Brandon in Chicago to take pressure off him. Why does he look so much better here? Change of scenery? Better QB? What do you think? Edited September 9, 2014 by BrandonDell_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Shotfather 1,914 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jay Cutler isn't throwing him the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,627 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Beats fans don't know.:PSeriously, I think it's likely that he was improperly utilized. His skillset works very well for what we do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nomak 4,638 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Matt Ryan made Douglas a 1000 yard receiver. Matt is doing what he does...make his teammates better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.11 8,199 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jay Cutler isn't throwing him the ball.Pretty much this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFatboi 28,987 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why is he all of a sudden good at receiver? Talking to bears fans during the offseason and they would tell you he was one of the worst receivers ever lol . He had Ashlon and Brandon in Chicago to take pressure off him. Why does he look so much better here? Change of scenery? Better QB? What do you think?They didn't use him in the offense last season. Before that that had him as a #2 and he's clearly a slot. Cutler is also a reason. He's a strong armed guy but throws a lot of uncatchable balls. The system. I doubt Hester would've been used much in our system when TG was here. The new scheme is to get our playmakers in space. This will be matts biggest numbers year simply because all of our receivers and backs can get yac in the passing game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,627 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 They didn't use him in the offense last season. Before that that had him as a #2 and he's clearly a slot. Cutler is also a reason. He's a strong armed guy but throws a lot of uncatchable balls. The system. I doubt Hester would've been used much in our system when TG was here. The new scheme is to get our playmakers in space. This will be matts biggest numbers year simply because all of our receivers and backs can get yac in the passing game.Which also removes my biggest frustration with our offense the last few seasons. All these toys, getting popped the first time they touch the ball. And too many of them not getting touches at all. Get these weapons some room, and get them the ball! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lee Long© 86 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Chemistry, him and Matt seemed to have found it instantly. Maybe his other Qbs never tried to find it with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RYNE 6,003 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I think it has to do a lot with how we are using him. We need Julio and Roddy to steak down the field and then hit Hester on crossing routes. No one can keep up with him on the crossing routes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stoned_jc7 105 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 In the preseason, and in our first game, it seemed to me that he was the most successful on slant patterns. Maybe the bears had him running routes that didn't really fit into his skill set. But a slant or a crossing route isn't all that complicated, and if you can avoid getting jammed at the line then you can run a decent slant.I could be completely off base, but that is what I noticed. And if he catches the ball, he is already in space and moving across the field, not much different that getting him on a kickoff return. I think we will see him drop some this year, but it seems as if they are trying to use him to his strengths, rather than forcing him to fit into the offense.I still wonder if we wouldn't be better off getting the ball to our second or third option, rather than an aging punt returner. But cant argue with the results we had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HASHBROWN3 17,285 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Matty, Terry Robiskie, and some stud WR's who are selfless that he is playing with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr sportolli 46,445 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) In the preseason, and in our first game, it seemed to me that he was the most successful on slant patterns. Maybe the bears had him running routes that didn't really fit into his skill set. But a slant or a crossing route isn't all that complicated, and if you can avoid getting jammed at the line then you can run a decent slant.I could be completely off base, but that is what I noticed. And if he catches the ball, he is already in space and moving across the field, not much different that getting him on a kickoff return. I think we will see him drop some this year, but it seems as if they are trying to use him to his strengths, rather than forcing him to fit into the offense.I still wonder if we wouldn't be better off getting the ball to our second or third option, rather than an aging punt returner. But cant argue with the results we had.Calling Devin Hester an aging punt returner seems a little ridiculous.Is Peyton Manning just an aging Quarterback?Dudes the greatest returner of all time.Still seems to have plenty left in the tank and is the third option on alot of plays. Edited September 9, 2014 by Jpowers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JermareATL 563 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Matty, Terry Robiskie, and some stud WR's who are selfless that he is playing with.I wonder if Terry will ever become an OC or even a head coach. We're a WR factory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caddieman 1,159 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 We got the best WR coach in the NFL. And I think they have cut down his route tree to 3 or 4 he does best like the slant and crossing route. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,627 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I still wonder if we wouldn't be better off getting the ball to our second or third option, rather than an aging punt returner. But cant argue with the results we had.I actually like that we're not. Too often, Ryan would stare Gonzo down. Now he seems to be hitting the open man, and that is going to open the offense up a lot. People can defend Julio, or Roddy, or even Julio and Roddy. But they can't defend all those options. Our offensive gameplan needs to be to get the ball to the open man. Because someone will be open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconinPA 12,696 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I don't know, bit I honestly hope he keeps it up. Thank you Bears! I hope he returns a punt and goes over 100 yards receiving when we play them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VRfalcon 17 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Terry Robiske/thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ironhead1956 391 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 An ELITE Quarterback. Matt Ryan makes the throws. I like Jay Cutler (yes I'm his only fan),but he doesn't connect with his team mates like MATTY ICE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truth. 802 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Take it from me, I live in Chicago and have seen most of Hester's career. The Bears never knew how to use him. They will tell you they tried everything with him and it just doesnt work, but they never used him properly. At first, out of Miami, they used him as a CB. He was decent for a rookie, but it took him getting reps as a KR/PR for him to shine. Once he established himself as the best KR/PR in the game (it took him about 5 games to do this lol) the Bears expanded his role going into year 2. They used him very sparingly as a WR and used him basically as a deep ball threat for Kyle Orton. He showed some promise there and they gave him a shot to be the go-to WR. Hester, combined with Johnny Knox led the Bears in receiving for a few years, but never really took off the way Bears fans expected. Eventually the Bears acquired Brandon Marshall and drafted Alshon Jeffery, giving Hester the opportunity to shine in his ideal spot in the slot; however, instead of that, the Bears new "supposedly" offensive genius of a head coach Mark Trestman was too good for that and simply stopped using him as a WR, took him off offense altogether, and used him strictly as a KR/PR. (Hester actually threaten to retire after Lovie Smith got the can in Chicago and it seems as though he never had much of a relationship with Trestman). Now, in his 9th pro season, the Falcons have finally put Hester back into the role he excelled in at Miami and he looks to be thriving. What a shock! lol Edited September 9, 2014 by Truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osiruz 10,079 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Who's ashlon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya_boi_j 66,013 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Take it from me, I live in Chicago and have seen most of Hester's career. The Bears never knew how to use him. They will tell you they tried everything with him and it just doesnt work, but they never used him properly. At first, out of Miami, they used him as a CB. He was decent for a rookie, but it took him getting reps as a KR/PR for him to shine. Once he established himself as the best KR/PR in the game (it took him about 5 games to do this lol) the Bears expanded his role going into year 2. They used him very sparingly as a WR and used him basically as a deep ball threat for Kyle Orton. He showed some promise there and they gave him a shot to be the go-to WR. Hester, combined with Johnny Knox led the Bears in receiving for a few year, but never really took off the way Bears fans expected. Eventually the Bears acquired Brandon Marshall and drafted Alshon Jeffery, giving Hester the opportunity to shine in his ideal spot in the slot; however, instead of that, the Bears new "supposedly" offensive genius of a head coach Mark Trestman was too good for that and simply stopped using him as a WR, took him off offense altogether, and used him strictly as a KR/PR. (Hester actually threaten to retire after Lovie Smith got the can in Chicago and it seems as though he never had much of a relationship with Trestman). Now, in his 9th pro season, the Falcons have finally put Hester back into the role he excelled in at Miami and he looks to be thriving. What a shock! lolGreat informative post. Except he only had 10 career catches in college for less than 200 yards and no scores. He also had 20+ carries for less than 200 yards. So I wouldn't necessarily say he excelled in college in that role. I know this because I am a hurricane fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightsaidfred 1,511 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Hester made a ballsy catch knowing he would get hammered. Can't teach thatI heard that he wanted to stay in CHI, but couldn't take anymore Cutler. Prob not a personal thing, but wanting more chancesOn a related note, how nice is it to see A Smith involved in the offense (finally)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Power O 120 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Friend of mine is a Bears fan. He told me it came down to the lack of chemistry between with Cutler - to the point of Cutler throwing him under the bus and talking ish like Hester can't run routes. Supposedly Hester asked to be taken off offense last year cuz he was tired of the beef.Dunno how true this is of course, but it does jive with Cutler's reputation of douchebaggerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wook21 89 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Devin hester was a good receiver for them he has a youtube videos of him killing it, I think with the warmer weather and playing in the dome will help him out tremendously. He's a great route runner you can see his speed and you cant jam him at the line cause he will blow past you, same ole hester just different uni...... oh and Matt's throwing him the ball lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truth. 802 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Great informative post. Except he only had 10 career catches in college for less than 200 yards and no scores. He also had 20+ carries for less than 200 yards. So I wouldn't necessarily say he excelled in college in that role. I know this because I am a hurricane fanwell he played a lot of everything at miami. he played WR, RB, FB, DB, KR, PR, etc lmaoso you are right, he wasnt exactly a slot guy, but close enough hahai would love to see him mix into the backfield a bit in a percy harvin role t make our backfield a 5 man stable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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