Shnikies Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The All–Bad Contracts Starting OffenseQuarterback: Joe Flacco, RavensContract Flaw: Ever Fallen in Love With a Player You Shouldn’t Have?I thought nothing would be able to top the Sam Bradford rookie contract as long as it stayed on St. Louis’s books, but the massive deal given to Flacco after his Super Bowl win narrowly takes the cake. As bad as the Bradford deal is, at least the Rams can get out of it after this season and save significant money ($13 million) in the process. Flacco is surely the better quarterback of the two, but Baltimore is stuck in this deal for years to come. It can’t really do much about this deal until after the 2016 season, during which Flacco will have a cap hit of — shield your children’s eyes — $28.6 million. In 2017, the Ravens get to choose between paying Flacco $31.2 million or eating $15.3 million in dead money on their cap. Flacco will be better than he was last year, and the cap is going to rise, but Flacco has to be a great quarterback to justify this deal, and the only time he really was great was during the 2012 playoffs.Brad is gonna love this. Did he get banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The All–Bad Contracts Starting OffenseQuarterback: Joe Flacco, RavensContract Flaw: Ever Fallen in Love With a Player You Shouldn’t Have?I thought nothing would be able to top the Sam Bradford rookie contract as long as it stayed on St. Louis’s books, but the massive deal given to Flacco after his Super Bowl win narrowly takes the cake. As bad as the Bradford deal is, at least the Rams can get out of it after this season and save significant money ($13 million) in the process. Flacco is surely the better quarterback of the two, but Baltimore is stuck in this deal for years to come. It can’t really do much about this deal until after the 2016 season, during which Flacco will have a cap hit of — shield your children’s eyes — $28.6 million. In 2017, the Ravens get to choose between paying Flacco $31.2 million or eating $15.3 million in dead money on their cap. Flacco will be better than he was last year, and the cap is going to rise, but Flacco has to be a great quarterback to justify this deal, and the only time he really was great was during the 2012 playoffs.Brad is gonna love this. Did he get banned?Yes he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If Matthews is at LT, Baker is on the bench. Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It is kind of funny hearing people talk about Baker at RT. They must really not like Matt Ryan.Baker just needs to move to RT.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 lolWas my reaction too. I just kind of facepalmed and left it alone. Have to play nice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I don't understand the need for non-Falcons fans to project Matthews to LT and Baker to RT like Baker's ever been a RT. If Matthews is at LT, Baker is on the bench.But, I don't think it's that bad a contract. It's the worst on the team, but we can get out next offseason with minimal pain if he blows up again. $1.9MM in additional cap hit is not enough to keep him if he doesn't show well.The funniest part is Alex Mack is on the list...I doubt that Baker survives past 2015, even if he plays well this year, now that we have Matthews, but, even if we had to cut him after this season, we'd probably just make him a post-June 1 cut. That way he wouldn't increase the cap after cutting him, and we'd be able to move some space over to 2016 on June 1, since it's pretty open at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Was my reaction too. I just kind of facepalmed and left it alone. Have to play nice now. Just ignoring the skillset problems, Baker at RT, just makes his contract look even worse. RT is arguably the most replaceable position in the NFL at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Just ignoring the skillset problems, Baker at RT, just makes his contract look even worse. RT is arguably the most replaceable position in the NFL at this point.Yeah it's definitely a recipe for making a bad situation absolutely terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenk Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Baker is to weak to play RT or RG. I see Baker on the bench with Lamar Holmes replacing him or Mathews playing Lt and Holmes playing RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Baker is to weak to play RT or RG. I see Baker on the bench with Lamar Holmes replacing him or Mathews playing Lt and Holmes playing RT.The way it looks as of now Holmes might not even make the team. I don't think Tice likes him very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The way it looks as of now Holmes might not even make the team. I don't think Tice likes him very much.It's too bad if so. Despite the hate that he gets around here, he showed a lot of potential. I'd really hope, if we were to decide to move on, that we'd at least be able to trade him for a 6th or a 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's too bad if so. Despite the hate that he gets around here, he showed a lot of potential. I'd really hope, if we were to decide to move on, that we'd at least be able to trade him for a 6th or a 7th.It's just that every report from camp about him has been bad or at least sounded bad. We'll know more soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's just that every report from camp about him has been bad or at least sounded bad. We'll know more soon.Sunday's the day that the pads go on. Then the real camp begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sunday's the day that the pads go on. Then the real camp begins.I had/have high hopes for him. I thought for sure with all the negative publicity he received last year showing up to camp fat and out of shape would of motivated him to show up raring and ready to go this year. It doesn't sound like it worked out like that though. Maybe he does better with pads and contact though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBird8711 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The All–Bad Contracts Starting OffenseQuarterback: Joe Flacco, RavensContract Flaw: Ever Fallen in Love With a Player You Shouldn’t Have?I thought nothing would be able to top the Sam Bradford rookie contract as long as it stayed on St. Louis’s books, but the massive deal given to Flacco after his Super Bowl win narrowly takes the cake. As bad as the Bradford deal is, at least the Rams can get out of it after this season and save significant money ($13 million) in the process. Flacco is surely the better quarterback of the two, but Baltimore is stuck in this deal for years to come. It can’t really do much about this deal until after the 2016 season, during which Flacco will have a cap hit of — shield your children’s eyes — $28.6 million. In 2017, the Ravens get to choose between paying Flacco $31.2 million or eating $15.3 million in dead money on their cap. Flacco will be better than he was last year, and the cap is going to rise, but Flacco has to be a great quarterback to justify this deal, and the only time he really was great was during the 2012 playoffs.Brad is gonna love this. Did he get banned?oh yes he's gone and I'm glad that d-bag is gone....Flacco's contract is going to have the Ravens in a stranglehold for quite a while.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonDell_ Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 oh yes he's gone and I'm glad that d-bag is gone....Flacco's contract is going to have the Ravens in a stranglehold for quite a while....Flacco sucks. Most overrated QB in the nfl. He threw more interception than touchdowns for crying out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The way it looks as of now Holmes might not even make the team. I don't think Tice likes him very much.that may be motivational on Tice's part though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 he isn't a RT. His skill set says LT.It doesn't say it, it screams it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Gaucho Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Just ignoring the skillset problems, Baker at RT, just makes his contract look even worse. RT is arguably the most replaceable position in the NFL at this point.If it were that easy, explain last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If it were that easy, explain last year...Simple, we waited until the last minute, and grabbed scraps. Just b/c it's a position that's easier to find people for than others, doesn't mean that you don't have to grab someone when you have the chance. The draft was long gone, and anyone that could be defined as a solid starter, had been picked up by other teams. Also, I've said before and I'll say it again, we never should have picked up Trueblood to begin with, or, at very least, we should have benched him much sooner. Schraeder did as good of a job, if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Simple, we waited until the last minute, and grabbed scraps. Just b/c it's a position that's easier to find people for than others, doesn't mean that you don't have to grab someone when you have the chance. The draft was long gone, and anyone that could be defined as a solid starter, had been picked up by other teams. Also, I've said before and I'll say it again, we never should have picked up Trueblood to begin with, or, at very least, we should have benched him much sooner. Schraeder did as good of a job, if not better.Agree, think that the OL coach got fired was because of his misjudgements of who was ready and who wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 He did that one time, how did that turn out? nvm it was probably RG, who knows, all I know is, he got killedIt was RG for like 2 plays lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You have to admit, compared to MLB and NBA, the NFL has fewer insane, horrible contracts. Its one of the things I like about the NFL over those sports.Because the NFL doesn't have luxury tax...their cap is more static than the other leagues. NBA probably gonna have another holdout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Bakers best position is LT on the Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuego Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Bakers best position is LT on the Saints.There it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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