rounz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Is Dominique Davis a quarterback?Is Dominique Davis considered a star?Q.E.D.OK I seeYou're going to play stupid.I thought you were better than that, man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrtay Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Lol at this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Heck freaking yes!! Not when we could have replaced him with Dominique "Dynamite" Davis for pennies on the dollar. If I'm gonna go 4-12. I'd rather pay Dominique Davis $480,000 to do it than pay Matt Ryan $20 million to do it.Case in point...There aint a chance on God's green earth that Dominique Davis and his 480k would dare have the nerve to slide on the 2 yard line. Then cap it off by doin it on national TV. Then, subsequently, double down - BY F'n LOSING!Needless to say, I think it is abundantly clear that coddling has it's drawbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Any wonder his teammates let him grovel on the ground when Kenny Vaccaro tried to kill'em?Definitely made Ryan think twice the second time agains the Saints. Laid right down like a Door Matt to avoid being hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Is this supposed to be the reaction of every opposing qb that was on the schedule last year when they got the news?Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 OK I seeYou're going to play stupid.I thought you were better than that, manNo. You presented a weak premise and I destroyed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No. You presented a weak premise and I destroyed it.Don't even try it.My whole conversation with you have been about Matt Ryan and his salary.But all of a sudden you think I'm talking about 2nd and third string QBsYou're not that stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrtay Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 And lol at he better be on point in preseason... or what? He won't start? This board can be so much fun sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I can't tell if people are really serious when they say any franchise QB truly has competition. News flash! They don't! Name any and every bonafied "franchise QB" and I'll show you a guy with zero competition for his job. The only and I mean only reason they lose their jobs is because of injury. I swear people try and make the world unlike it really is for personal gain. Come back to Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Don't even try it.My whole conversation with you have been about Matt Ryan and his salary.But all of a sudden you think I'm talking about 2nd and third string QBsYou're not that stupidLook brother. Yes. You have debated with class ok. That said, you can't just buckle under like that when I retort.1) We are having a debate.2) You set forth a premise... and proceeded to leave it hanging.3) I responded by deflating your premise.So when you respond by calling me stupid, it doesn't resucitate your premise. What you should do is stay on your point. Concede the flaw in your premise and recalibrate it. You didn't do that. You threw your hands up and bailed on your own position. Matt Ryan does it all the time when the going gets tough.Here's the problem. You can call me stupid. Even if I concede it...It's not gonna help you win the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If I'm gonna go 4-12. I'd rather pay Dominique Davis $480,000 to do it than pay Matt Ryan $20 million to do it.Case in point...There aint a chance on God's green earth that Dominique Davis and his 480k would dare have the nerve to slide on the 2 yard line. Then cap it off by doin it on national TV. Then, subsequently, double down - BY F'n LOSING!Needless to say, I think it is abundantly clear that coddling has it's drawbacks.Good answer. If you're going to go 4-12, why pay anybody top money? Silly answer is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Look brother. Yes. You have debated with class ok. That said, you can't just buckle under like that when I retort.1) We are having a debate.2) You set forth a premise... and proceeded to leave it hanging.3) I responded by deflating your premise.So when you respond by calling me stupid, it doesn't resucitate your premise. What you should do is stay on your point. Concede the flaw in your premise and recalibrate it. You didn't do that. You threw your hands up and bailed on your own position. Matt Ryan does it all the time when the going gets tough.Here's the problem. You can call me stupid. Even if I concede it...It's not gonna help you win the argument.There is no arguement.There is a little thing called context that happens in conversations.You know my point was that franchise QBs command much of the money for a reason.Was DD a franchise QB?No. So there really is nothing for you to refute, except by bringing in a strawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I can't tell if people are really serious when they say any franchise QB truly has competition. News flash! They don't!Name any and every bonafied "franchise QB" and I'll show you a guy with zero competition for his job. The only and I mean only reason they lose their jobs is because of injury.I swear people try and make the world unlike it really is for personal gain. Come back to Earth.Matt Flynn.Seattle Seahawks.Reigning Super Bowl Champions.Q.E.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Matt Flynn.Seattle Seahawks.Reigning Super Bowl Champions.Q.E.D.Lawl... predictable.I said bonafied. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 There is no arguement.There is a little thing called context that happens in conversations.You know my point was that franchise QBs command much of the money for a reason.Was DD a franchise QB?No. So there really is nothing for you to refute, except by bringing in a strawmanNo.I know what you said.You have to say what you mean.This is a debate.Stay on point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Lawl... predictable.I said bonafied.Next.How does your use of the word "bonafied" make it any more or less applicable?In other words, what is the difference between a "Franchise Quarterback" and a "Bonafide Franchise Quarterback"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rounz Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No.I know what you said.You have to say what you mean.This is a debate.Stay on point.Oh I see the problem.You thought when i said the NFL considers the QBs to be the stars you thought I was talking about 2nd and 3rd teamers.OK, I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 How does your use of the word "bonafied" make it any more or less applicable?In other words, what is the difference between a "Franchise Quarterback" and a "Bonafide Franchise Quarterback"?NewtonLuckKaepernickRiversRyanWilsonBradyManning x2RoethlesbergerRodgersBreesFlaccoStaffordRomoNot a single one of them is competing to keep their jobs. Get over it. It was a dumb idea in the first place. Another poor attempt at trying to flame Ryan. Can't change how the world actually works for arguments sake. I win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD-FalconFan13 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Look brother. Yes. You have debated with class ok. That said, you can't just buckle under like that when I retort.1) We are having a debate.2) You set forth a premise... and proceeded to leave it hanging.3) I responded by deflating your premise.So when you respond by calling me stupid, it doesn't resucitate your premise. What you should do is stay on your point. Concede the flaw in your premise and recalibrate it. You didn't do that. You threw your hands up and bailed on your own position. Matt Ryan does it all the time when the going gets tough.Here's the problem. You can call me stupid. Even if I concede it...It's not gonna help you win the argument.Your premise is to NOT pay one of the better QBs in the league (proven, don't debate.....please) for Dom Davis because the team didn't win? Why do the Chargers stick with Phillip Rivers? Rams with Sam Bradford? Bengals with Andy Dalton? Cowboys with Tony Romo?Because no GM in their right mind would release a good QB like either of the one mentioned for a back-up who is CLEARLY inferior. Do you think they'd keep their job if they did? Your are talking from inexperience, with a tone as if you were experience. You nor I have ever been a GM. We wouldn't know the ins and outs. But I know I'd be a much better one than you if this is your ideology of how to play your QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD-FalconFan13 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Matt Flynn.Seattle Seahawks.Reigning Super Bowl Champions.Q.E.D.Lawl... predictable.I said bonafied.Next.Are you trying to say Matt Flynn is a franchise QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 NewtonLuckKaepernickRiversRyanWilsonBradyManning x2RoethlesbergerRodgersBreesFlaccoStaffordNot a single one of them is competing to keep their jobs.Get over it. It was a dumb idea in the first place. Another poor attempt at trying to flame Ryan. Can't change how the world actually works for arguments sake.I win.First of all you said name one. I named one.Then you provide a list...That makes no mention whatsoever of the Alex Smith-Less San Francisco 49ers.You know what makes it interesting?That fact that the Seahawks and 49ers serve as perfect examples of how teams can catapult themselves to success by saying F*** that to "Franchise QB's".Just goes to show how the message is received when you show the team that EVERYONE is accountable.Thanks for the scenario bro. It's been very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Are you trying to say Matt Flynn is a franchise QB?Who me? No... lolFlynn was a backup done good who was sent to Seattle and lost the starting job. Can't be a franchise QB if you were never the starter to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotsaPoppa Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Your premise is to NOT pay one of the better QBs in the league (proven, don't debate.....please) for Dom Davis because the team didn't win? Why do the Chargers stick with Phillip Rivers? Rams with Sam Bradford? Bengals with Andy Dalton? Cowboys with Tony Romo?Because no GM in their right mind would release a good QB like either of the one mentioned for a back-up who is CLEARLY inferior. Do you think they'd keep their job if they did? Your are talking from inexperience, with a tone as if you were experience. You nor I have ever been a GM. We wouldn't know the ins and outs. But I know I'd be a much better one than you if this is your ideology of how to play your QBs.First, I need you to clarify who you are proclaiming to be "one of the better quarterbacks in the league". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 First of all you said name one. I named one.Then you provide a list...That makes no mention whatsoever of the Alex Smith-Less San Francisco 49ers.You know what makes it interesting?That fact that the Seahawks and 49ers serve as perfect examples of how teams can catapult themselves to success by saying F*** that to "Franchise QB's".Just goes to show how the message is received when you show the team that EVERYONE is accountable.Thanks for the scenario bro. It's been very useful.Lolwut?Seattle and SF(just paid their guy btw) both have franchise QBs and neither is competing to keep their job. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 NewtonLuckKaepernickRiversRyanWilsonBradyManning x2RoethlesbergerRodgersBreesFlaccoStaffordRomoNot a single one of them is competing to keep their jobs.Get over it. It was a dumb idea in the first place. Another poor attempt at trying to flame Ryan. Can't change how the world actually works for arguments sake.I win.Competing for second string. That's the OP's point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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