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Does Roger Mcdowell Deserve Criticism?


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Now a third Atlanta Brave Pitcher is done for the season and may need Tommy John surgery. After one or two you would think we are jinxed but a third you have to then ask, what is the pitching coaches responsibility? Do all of these sudden injuries have something in common and why now?

Leo Mazzone, long-time Atlanta Brave pitching coach has gone on Rock 100.5 and 680 to say its not velocity but how often the pitchers are throwing and pitch counts are detrimental.

I hope Liberty Media is taking a good look at what is going on and considering the facts.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10693902/atlanta-braves-reliever-cory-gearrin-significant-elbow-injury-according-gm?ex_cid=espnapi_public

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If it is how many pitches thrown why haven't Roy Holladay or Justin Verlander ever had Tommy John surgery? Holladay when he was with Toronto always threw 100 plus pitches it seems. I know he had a lot of complete games. Verlander is always close or over 100 pitches in a lot of his games

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If it is how many pitches thrown why haven't Roy Holladay or Justin Verlander ever had Tommy John surgery? Holladay when he was with Toronto always threw 100 plus pitches it seems. I know he had a lot of complete games. Verlander is always close or over 100 pitches in a lot of his games

He means limiting pitchers to a certain number of pitches is detrimental, not that throwing more is detrimental. I assume he mainly means in the minor leagues since a lot of systems limit their starting pitchers to the 80-100 range as a means of protection and there has been a spike in blown out elbow ligaments since then.

edit: Getting a better trainer would also be nice. Usually when a team is constantly getting injured, which has been an annual problem with the Braves (especially once September rolls along), it's because the trainer is doing an incompetent job. A good example of this would be the UGA football program where they don't even have a certified trainer at the job and instead it's the son of some donor. It's likely why they get hurt a lot and their players normally don't realize their potential while there but blow up on the scene in the NFL once they get a competently run training program.

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In his case it was due to an extremely stressful delivery. Pitchers with that inverted W delivery (I don't know why they don't call it M) put a lot of stress on their elbows and it eventually ends in injuries. Strasburg is an example of that delivery.

Prior had perfect mechanics according to baseball scouts and experts. The Cubs overused him is what destroyed him
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its going to continue to happen and McDowell has nothing to do with it. It use to be abnormal for someone to throw 90+ mph, now its the norm. With the increased speed and action of the pitches these days it is going to cause more stress on the arm than in the past which will cause many more arm problems, surgeries, etc

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its going to continue to happen and McDowell has nothing to do with it. It use to be abnormal for someone to throw 90+ mph, now its the norm. With the increased speed and action of the pitches these days it is going to cause more stress on the arm than in the past which will cause many more arm problems, surgeries, etc

That being said and I agree how many more years before kimbrel blows out his career?

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That being said and I agree how many more years before kimbrel blows out his career?

not sure. If you look at the way he throws. Although he has a lot of heat on it, his arm doesnt seem to be at a weird angle or anything. Maybe he will be lucky. Plus it seems like a lot of the arm problems come from throwing a change up which he doesnt do to much
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Prior had perfect mechanics according to baseball scouts and experts. The Cubs overused him is what destroyed him

His delivery looked pretty, but there were some experts who worried, even at the time, about the stress it causes. Now, there is much greater consensus (though far from unanimous) about that type of delivery ("inverted W"). But whether experts and scouts thought he had perfect mechanics at the time is irrelevant, because it turns out he didn't. Along with overuse, his delivery is likely unconducive to a long, injury-free career. His delivery was far from "perfect mechanics," though it's not really clear there is such a thing. Except for Maddux.

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So lame the season is done before it's even started, and the guys going through their second TJ surgery are pretty much damage goods for the rest of their career. These pitching injuries may haunt the Braves for years to come.

Seems though that is the theme for ATL teams lately. Braves,Hawks and Falcons were consistent playoff teams at least but now they are all injury plagued.

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