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So you're going to assume that medical advancement will not improve health in the 25yrs-50yrs it will take for these statistics to become apparent; Liberals taking credit for things that would have happened anyway isn't anything new.

And I still want my $2500.

I don't think you understand the difference between causation and correlation, but that's OK.
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So you're going to assume that medical advancement will not improve health in the 25yrs-50yrs it will take for these statistics to become apparent; Liberals taking credit for things that would have happened anyway isn't anything new.

And I still want my $2500.

When did Obama promise *you* specifically $2500?

And we'll be able to see shifts in the health statistics over the next few years...that information is released yearly. If there is no change in the trend, then the law didn't work. If there is a change in the trend in terms of lower mortality and other health statistics, then the law can be credited, at least in part. It's not hard if you take off the partisan lens and think about it a bit.

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Some early news about the percent of enrollees who pay their first month's premiums. It's not complete information and the estimates could change, but the information we have at the moment is better than expected:


Three large health insurers including WellPoint Inc. (WLP:US) and Aetna Inc. (AET:US) say that a high percentage of their new Obamacare customers are paying their first premiums, undermining a Republican criticism of enrollment in the program.

As many as 90 percent of WellPoint customers have paid their first premium by its due date, according to testimony the company prepared for a congressional hearing today. For Aetna, the payment is in the “low to mid-80 percent range,” the company said in its own testimony. Health Care Service Corp., which operates Blue Cross Blue Shield plans in five states including Texas, said that number is at least 83 percent.

Making the first monthly payment is the last step to confirm enrollment in plans sold under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and Republicans have made the question of how many paid a line of attack on the law.

“What you have here is very solid first year enrollment, no matter how you slice it,” Dan Mendelson, president of Avalere Health, a Washington consulting firm, said in a phone interview. “This thing is, at this point, well entrenched.”

While the Obama administration says that 8 million people signed up for private plans using the law’s insurance exchanges, federal officials have said they don’t track first premium payments.

Due dates for the first premium vary by company and aren’t always strictly enforced. WellPoint, for example, asks for payment by the 10th of the month for coverage that begins on the first. While Aetna asks for payment by the day before coverage begins, “we are being flexible if enrollees have extenuating circumstances,” a spokeswoman for the company, Cynthia Michener, said in an e-mail last week.

Republican Report

Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee invited insurers to testify on enrollment after publishing a report last week claiming only two-thirds of people who signed up had paid their first premium.

“That was just foolishness on the part of the committee to even publish that number because it was completely out of context,” Bob Laszewski, an insurance industry consultant in Alexandria, Virginia, said in a phone interview.

The Republicans reported a lower percentage of paid premiums in part because they surveyed insurers only on payments received by April 15. At least 3 million people signed up for coverage that didn’t begin until May 1 or later; their premiums weren’t due until at least April 30.

The Republicans say they plan to update their report about May 20, when due dates will have passed for most Obamacare plans.

“After months of excuses, we took the administration’s advice and asked the insurance providers themselves for basic enrollment figures,” Fred Upton, the chairman of the committee, said in an e-mail from a spokeswoman. “Tomorrow’s hearing will allow us to further explore the status of implementation and provide greater transparency and certainty moving forward.”

Spokeswomen for the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services didn’t immediately offer comment.

To contact the reporter on this story: Alex Wayne in Washington at awayne3@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Reg Gale at rgale5@bloomberg.net Angela Zimm

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Also, here's the percent increase in family insurance premiums over the past 10 years:

2005 - 9.34%

2006 - 5.51%

2007 - 5.45%

2008 - 4.74%

2009 - 5.485

2010 - 2.95%

2011 - 9.46%

2012 - 4.46%

2013 - 3.85%

The law was signed in October 2010 and the individual mandate with the exchanges didn't begin until October 2013. A few parts of the law won't go into effect until next year. But somehow Doozer thinks this is enough time to judge that the policy has "failed' because premiums haven't dropped by $2500.


would you mind posting the link for that so we can see the methodology used to get those figures?

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people need to stop focusing on one small aspect to the exclusion of all. that is how a lot of people are justifying the ACA as affordable for middle America...you don't bother to look at the other burdens already on middle America (not saying this to Acworth specifically, I mean in general)

so Premiums only went up a little and we tout this as success. this was done at the expense of the quality of the insurance






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Ouch at the bolded parts...

Republicans struggled to land punches against ObamaCare in a hearing Wednesday, as responses from insurance companies deflated several lines of questioning.

Democratic lawmakers were emboldened to defend the Affordable Care Act with renewed vigor and levity, creating a dynamic rarely seen in the debate over ObamaCare.

Adding to the irregularity, exits on the Republican side at a subcommittee hearing led by Rep. Tim Murphy (R-Pa.) allowed multiple Democrats to speak in a row and let heavy Democratic criticism of Republicans go unanswered, a contrast with the heated exchanges of last fall.

The discussion was not always favorable to the healthcare law, as it touched on health plan cancellations, the potential for premium increases in 2015 and problems that still plague the back end of HealthCare.gov.

Witnesses from the insurance industry were also careful in their comments and promised to submit several answers to the committee at a later date.

But Republicans were visibly exasperated, as insurers failed to confirm certain assumptions about ObamaCare, such as the committee's allegation that one-third of federal exchange enrollees have not paid their first premium.

Four out of five companies represented said more than 80 percent of their new customers had paid. The fifth, Cigna, did not offer an estimate.

Republicans also stumbled in asking insurers to detail next year's premium rates. Companies are still in the process of calculating prices, and they have a strong financial incentive not to air early projections in public.

“Has anybody done any kind of analysis?” said a frustrated Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), vice chairman of the wider Energy and Commerce Committee. “You all have conducted no internal analysis on what the trend line is for these premiums?”

“At this point in the filing season, we can't offer any guidance or speculate on where [premiums] are going to fall,” said Paul Wingle, executive director of public exchange operations at Aetna.

“At this juncture, we don't have the information,” added Dennis Matheis, president of exchange strategy with Wellpoint.

The back-and-forth underscores the growing divide between Republicans and the insurance industry over the healthcare law.

Insurers have worked hard to make the Affordable Care Act's exchanges successful and are expected to substantially increase their participation in the system over time.

That has estranged the industry from Republican critics of the law and created an uneasy alliance between health insurance companies and the White House.

Later in the hearing, Republicans resorted to classic jabs against the healthcare law, noting that President Obama's promise to save families $2,500 on their premiums has not come true.

Democrats, meanwhile, jumped at the opportunity to hammer the GOP.

“This has been a very illuminating hearing because it's shown what our colleagues on the other side's strategy is: Grab a headline that will scare the American people about the Affordable Care Act,” said Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.).

The hearing was conducted by the Energy and Commerce subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/205471-gop-struggles-to-land-o-care-punches#ixzz314WoAVqY

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