Nole9782 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think we see a pattern with Maziel. Guys who are old school.....they don't like him. The younger people in the league and in the media are more inclined to appreciate his brashness.Which Super Bowl winning QB exhibits his same kind of "new school" brashness? The guy at best is a rich man's Tony Romo. That's pretty good. And that'd even win some games and sell some seats. But can it win a Super Bowl? I might argue whether you like him or not just depends on why you think people play the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 if the Falcons needed a QB I'd want Manziel out of the 3 top guysHe is one TENACIOUS dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 People constantly bring up what will happen with Clowney when he gets a fat contract. What's going to happen with this guy and all of his 'brashness' when he gets one? Why is that never brought up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Which Super Bowl winning QB exhibits his same kind of "new school" brashness?The guy at best is a rich man's Tony Romo. That's pretty good. And that'd even win some games and sell some seats. But can it win a Super Bowl?I might argue whether you like him or not just depends on why you think people play the game.Aaron Rodgers.People constantly bring up what will happen with Clowney when he gets a fat contract. What's going to happen with this guy and all of his 'brashness' when he gets one? Why is that never brought up??Because he grew up a millionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 He is one TENACIOUS dude.I just think he has the most playmaking ability and the highest ceiling if he pans out. He wouln't be the first QB to beat on his chest off the field and he isn't the only human being who wanted to have fun in college. if those are your only question marks besides can he consistently play in the pocket, then you really only have one question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Manziel comes from $$ Lolhe been flossing for yearsSeems very cocky to me, like somebody that will throw his status around once obtained. I can easily see stardom going to his head and being the majority of his focus instead of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Manziel comes from $$ Lolhe been flossing for yearsThere's a difference between coming from money and having your own. What happens when you're no longer under the threat of being "cutoff" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole9782 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Aaron Rodgers.Not a terrible answer, but Manziel makes Rodgers look as humble as the Pope. Not to mention, Rodgers has a lot fewer off-the-field distractions. Rodgers' biggest off-the-field distraction, apparently, is trying to convince people that he "really, really likes women."I doubt Manziel needs much help convincing people he likes women. But I mean, who doesn't like women? (Gay dudes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Which Super Bowl winning QB exhibits his same kind of "new school" brashness?The guy at best is a rich man's Tony Romo. That's pretty good. And that'd even win some games and sell some seats. But can it win a Super Bowl?I might argue whether you like him or not just depends on why you think people play the game.If you could guarantee that Manziel would be at least Tony Romo's equivalent, he'd go #1 without question.Romo is who he reminds me most of....but honestly, I don't think he's as consistent a decision maker as Romo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Anyone watch the Gruden QB camp with him last night? ESPN sat his *** down beforehand and told him he better say yes sir no less than 800 times so he gets drafted higher, IMO. Then again, ESPN would **** its pants if he took a Rodgers-like slide on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole9782 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you could guarantee that Manziel would be at least Tony Romo's equivalent, he'd go #1 without question.Romo is who he reminds me most of....but honestly, I don't think he's as consistent a decision maker as Romo.Honestly, I don't think I am kidding, if Manziel manages to stay in the League and out of jail I'm going to be a little surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Seems very cocky to me, like somebody that will throw his status around once obtained. I can easily see stardom going to his head and being the majority of his focus instead of football.really? you can probably name every other QB in the nfl, past and present and say they are cocky in some form or fashion, it doesnt have to be the same 'style'. Brady, Brees, Joe Namath, Steve Young, Ken Stabler, Bradshaw. Etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Which Super Bowl winning QB exhibits his same kind of "new school" brashness? The guy at best is a rich man's Tony Romo. That's pretty good. And that'd even win some games and sell some seats. But can it win a Super Bowl? I might argue whether you like him or not just depends on why you think people play the game.I think the Romo comparison is spot on. My issue with Manziel is like Romo he doesn't have the balance between wanting to win and living to fight another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Seems very cocky to me, like somebody that will throw his status around once obtained. I can easily see stardom going to his head and being the majority of his focus instead of football.This is what Manziel is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole9782 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think the Romo comparison is spot on. My issue with Manziel is like Romo he doesn't have the balance between wanting to win and living to fight another day.They're idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 really? you can probably name every other QB in the nfl, past and present and say they are cocky in some form or fashion, it doesnt have to be the same 'style'. Brady, Brees, Joe Namath, Steve Young, Ken Stabler, Bradshaw. EtcNot to the level that Manziel is, not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Peyton I watched 4 Manziel games last night to get a better feel for him....watched the Duke game, Bama (for the 3rd time), Vandy and LSU from this year.His ceiling is the Vandy game. Aside from one bad decision, he looked every bit like a good (or better) NFL QB. Very impressive performance.The LSU game was AWFUL. One of the worst games I've seen a QB play. And it came against a team closer to what he'll see on Sundays.Unless he completely rebuilds integral parts of his game, I don't see how he's not a high turnover erratic guy. I'm going to keep watching some more this weekend but that LSU game is going to stick with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you could guarantee that Manziel would be at least Tony Romo's equivalent, he'd go #1 without question.Romo is who he reminds me most of....but honestly, I don't think he's as consistent a decision maker as Romo.There is one huge difference. Romo fears the big moment. Manziel lives for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 He is already being backed by Nike and Mickey Ds . He parties He is a 21 year old kid that will still go out but unless it effects his play on field or he gets DUI or is arrested no one should really worryThe tangents that you'd go on if you found out that Ryan was out partying instead of focusing on football would be hilarious to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Not to the level that Manziel is, not even close.ok dude whatever you say lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 If you could guarantee that Manziel would be at least Tony Romo's equivalent, he'd go #1 without question.Romo is who he reminds me most of....but honestly, I don't think he's as consistent a decision maker as Romo.One thing is for SURE...............IF Houston picks Johnny at No.1, for 2014 two things happen immediately :1) The Texans sell a whole bunch of NEW season tickets..............like TONS more.2) They also steal the "Limelight" from Jerry Jones and his bumbling Cowboys in the Lone Star State. The TEXANS will be the "New Kid in Town".............BIG TIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wherever he goes he needs a solid running game and a big receiver he can chuck prayers up to and rely on him to go up and grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 This is what Manziel is about. No offense but I hate when people use YouTube highlights. When have you ever seen a YouTube video that makes a player look bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Peyton I watched 4 Manziel games last night to get a better feel for him....watched the Duke game, Bama (for the 3rd time), Vandy and LSU from this year.His ceiling is the Vandy game. Aside from one bad decision, he looked every bit like a good (or better) NFL QB. Very impressive performance.The LSU game was AWFUL. One of the worst games I've seen a QB play. And it came against a team closer to what he'll see on Sundays.Unless he completely rebuilds integral parts of his game, I don't see how he's not a high turnover erratic guy. I'm going to keep watching some more this weekend but that LSU game is going to stick with me.I think you are overanalyzing just a bit. If you did the same thing you are doing to any college QB, you would come out of it thinking they were going to be a turnover machine.You certainly would not have drafted Matt Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There is one huge difference. Romo fears the big moment. Manziel lives for it.so did Tebow and he succeeded more in big moments than Manziel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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