Mr. Right Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Goood.... Goood... let the hate flow through you.Now I would want him. Piss him off and give him a chip. No more hype and King of the world crap.What if he has a Matt Ryan personality in which he can't develop a chip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Me and my Dad were talking about Clown's work ethic and how much it does or doesn't matter.He compared it to his early days in the Insurance field. Said there were guys who worked twice as hard and sold half as much. Bottom line...we live in a results oriented world...as adults. 'A for effort' is a game we run on kids...bring 'em home TD There's your problem, comparing the insurance field with a football field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What if he has a Matt Ryan personality in which he can't develop a chip?Will it matter as long as he puts out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Will it matter as long as he puts out?Well if he can put up numbers than it doesn't really matter. But some people just don't have chips - not sure why Tuggle thinks it can come out of guys. Not sure if Clowney has a Ryan type personality but it's always possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 There's your problem, comparing the insurance field with a football field.Nope, your problem is not seeing results matter on every 'field' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Well if he can put up numbers than it doesn't really matter. All that needs to be said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Robert Quinn?Robert Quinn is a good example of a guy who had to sit out a year and went on to be an impact player in the NFL, but he didn't sit out voluntarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I repeatedly see the comparisons to Peppers and it just seems kind of silly to me. It Peppers wasn't trying his Senior year, then he must be far and away the best athlete in the history of mankind, because he was a post season consensus first team All-American, won the Chuck Bednarik award for being the best defensive player in college football, the Bill Willis Trophy for being the top Defensive Lineman, and Lombardi Award for being the best college football lineman or linebacker.So...the only way a comparison to Peppers would be relevant is if Clowney had put up that kind of performance this year. He didn't.So....either Peppers was trying a lot harder, or he was just way more talented.Either way, the comparison isn't relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 For their senior seasons...Peppers had 9.5 sacks and 19 TFLsClowney had 3 sacks and 11.5 TFLsNot a good comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 For their senior seasons...Peppers had 9.5 sacks and 19 TFLsClowney had 3 sacks and 11.5 TFLsNot a good comparison.And Peppers also had 3 INTs, including a pick 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveboss26 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 If you don't view your last year in college with the draft coming up a "reason to dominate", I'm not sure you are ever going to find one.You've got to stop with that. We know Clowneys talents we know he has everything needed to be a great player talent wise, we don't need to look at his highlights unless we just want to get pumped up about the possibility of getting him.Did he say that? Yes. Does it matter that he said that? No. Because at this point it's all about what your going to get out of him now, do you believe you have to coach to push him?I would say for any team to not believe they have the coach to push him, what are they doing.We have the coach, we have the need, he has the talent. Take him if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 You've got to stop with that. We know Clowneys talents we know he has everything needed to be a great player talent wise, we don't need to look at his highlights unless we just want to get pumped up about the possibility of getting him.Did he say that? Yes. Does it matter that he said that? No. Because at this point it's all about what your going to get out of him now, do you believe you have to coach to push him?I would say for any team to not believe they have the coach to push him, what are they doing.We have the coach, we have the need, he has the talent. Take him if you can.The coach has very little power when a draft pick gets a signing bonus that is 5X the coaches annual salary. That is why you have to be as sure as you can be on these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What if he has a Matt Ryan personality in which he can't develop a chip?Getting a little desperate aren't you? Keep it coming this could get hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The biggest thing to worry about Clowney is he is going to always be about Clowney not the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveboss26 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The coach has very little power when a draft pick gets a signing bonus that is 5X the coaches annual salary. That is why you have to be as sure as you can be on these guys.It's not about power. It's about understanding what makes a guy tick but we do know when Clowney does mess up Cox will be in his face about it. But I agree you do have to be as sure as possible but even if 32 teams weren't sure about Clowney he's still getting picked top 10 because he's too talented to let slip by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Getting a little desperate aren't you? Keep it coming this could get hilarious. Desperate? It's true. No fire. No chip. No elevation.There are a lot of people in the world who work hard at their job, i.e. comes in early, leaves late, turns in everything on time, etc... but they don't have the desire to really take it to the next level or seek the next challenge. They are fine with the current level they are at. If on average it takes 3 years to get promoted, these guys are fine with being promoted in 3 years. These aren't the guys that want to be promoted in 1.5. Keep in mind that being promoted in 3 years still takes hard work and high work ethic.And that is the type of guy Matt Ryan is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanEST1989 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Goood.... Goood... let the hate flow through you.Now I would want him. Piss him off and give him a chip. No more hype and King of the world crap.yep and then piss him off more by letting him fall to the 6th pick so we can take him so he'll have more to prove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Just read your signature. Motivation comes from within. Then read your original post. Hypocrite much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 yep and then piss him off more by letting him fall to the 6th pick so we can take him so he'll have more to prove Hypocrite much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He is being compared to Peppers cause if the physical talent both shares. And Peppers was known at North Carolina to take plays off. Very relevant if you remember Peppers at North Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He is being compared to Peppers cause if the physical talent both shares. And Peppers was known at North Carolina to take plays off. Very relevant if you remember Peppers at North CarolinaWell that's why you can't make the comparison though. Peppers was Defensive Player of the Year while allegedly being lazy.Clowney was pretty much invisible while allegedly being lazy.That's my point. Either Peppers wasn't really lazy or he was just waaay better player than Clowney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Well that's why you can't make the comparison though. Peppers was Defensive Player of the Year while allegedly being lazy.Clowney was pretty much invisible while allegedly being lazy.That's my point. Either Peppers wasn't really lazy or he was just waaay better player than Clowney.Clowney was also Defensive Player of the Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Clowney was also Defensive Player of the Year.Clowney was Defensive Player of the Year this year? Wow..amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Clowney was Defensive Player of the Year this year? Wow..amazing.people will read what they want. Did I ever mention anything about the 2013 college football season? A simple yes or no will suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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