Jigglypuff Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 3-4 fanboys LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Whatever. Still a 34 base with loads of 34 personnel who can run in multiple fronts if situation presents itself.Go watch what the Ravens have been doing with Terrell Suggs for the past decade and tell me he's a OLB in a 3-4 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes, Nolan has never ran a two gap defense with a 0 and two 5s as his base.If you guys want to discuss football with me, my advice is to quit using Madden as your teaching tool.Lol whatever ...madden really? How bout posting links from Nolan instead of your opinion of his defense--fair enough?Go watch what the Ravens have been doing with Terrell Suggs for the past decade and tell me he's a OLB in a 3-4 defense.Nolan hasn't been there in 6 or 7 years maybe longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yes, Nolan has never ran a two gap defense with a 0 and two 5s as his base.If you guys want to discuss football with me, my advice is to quit using Madden as your teaching tool.hey you're the one that said he has never ran a 3-4 period. Not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yet again no linksIf you've followed Nolan at all before coming to the Falcons, you'd know he's NEVER solely ran a 3-4 defense and a 3-4 defense only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 stop friggin saying "we're a 3-4" defense. You are LYING to the fanbase. We are hybrid defense with a fuller set of chess pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 He has coached at the collegiate level at Stanford University, Rice University, and LSU before moving on to the National Football League.The son of former San Francisco 49ers and New Orleans Saints head coach, **** Nolan, he signed with the 49ers in 2005 to be head coach, following in his father's footsteps. Nolan joined San Francisco after establishing himself as the defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens, a position he held with three other teams: New York Jets (2000), Washington Redskins (1997–99), and New York Giants (1993–96).Nolan and the 49ers selected Alex Smith with the first overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. Nolan thought Smith to be cerebral, introspective, and non-confrontational. Nolan also evaluated Aaron Rodgers but did not believe that Rodgers' attitude could co-exist with him.[2] Nolan finished the 2005 season with a 4–12 record. Nolan led a late season run and the 49ers improved in 2006 to 7–9. That led to expectations for the 2007 season, which included at least 9 wins and a playoff appearance. The season started well at 2–0, but an 8-game losing streak ended all hope of a playoff run. During the season, he publicly disagreed with Smith over the severity of the quarterback's shoulder injury.[3] Nolan had been under intense scrutiny in the Bay Area. After the season, Nolan lost his general manager position and on October 20, 2008, Nolan was fired and replaced by his assistant head coach Mike Singletary.In early 2009 Mike Nolan became the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos under Josh McDaniels. With a new 3-4 defense the Denver Broncos gave up the fewest points in the NFL (66) during the first six games of the season, and made their way to their first 6–0 start since the 1998 season in which they won Super Bowl XXXIII. The Broncos went 2 and 8 the rest of the way, and missed the playoffs. On January 18, 2010 Mike Nolan and Josh McDaniels mutually decided Nolan would resign as the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos.[1]On January 19, 2010, Nolan was hired by the Miami Dolphins as Defensive Coordinator. On January 17, 2012, Nolan was hired by the Atlanta Falcons as Defensive Coordinator [4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If you've followed Nolan at all before coming to the Falcons, you'd know he's NEVER solely ran a 3-4 defense and a 3-4 defense only.I've followed him since giants. Since baltimore he's run a 34 base, and inserted elements of 43 when applicable. He's always moved his team towards more 34 personnell and base. Most every team mixes in different number fronts. Even steelers have a 1 man front...but the base. The philosophy of his defense starts in 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongSufferingFan88 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 stop friggin saying "we're a 3-4" defense. You are LYING to the fanbase. We are hybrid defense with a fuller set of chess piecesCalm your ( o Y o )... Its a thread title. If you read the article, you'll see that there's more to it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 He has coached at the collegiate level at Stanford University, Rice University, and LSU before moving on to the National Football League.The son of former San Francisco 49ers and New Orleans Saints head coach, **** Nolan, he signed with the 49ers in 2005 to be head coach, following in his father's footsteps. Nolan joined San Francisco after establishing himself as the defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens, a position he held with three other teams: New York Jets (2000), Washington Redskins (1997–99), and New York Giants (1993–96).Nolan and the 49ers selected Alex Smith with the first overall pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. Nolan thought Smith to be cerebral, introspective, and non-confrontational. Nolan also evaluated Aaron Rodgers but did not believe that Rodgers' attitude could co-exist with him.[2] Nolan finished the 2005 season with a 4–12 record. Nolan led a late season run and the 49ers improved in 2006 to 7–9. That led to expectations for the 2007 season, which included at least 9 wins and a playoff appearance. The season started well at 2–0, but an 8-game losing streak ended all hope of a playoff run. During the season, he publicly disagreed with Smith over the severity of the quarterback's shoulder injury.[3] Nolan had been under intense scrutiny in the Bay Area. After the season, Nolan lost his general manager position and on October 20, 2008, Nolan was fired and replaced by his assistant head coach Mike Singletary.In early 2009 Mike Nolan became the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos under Josh McDaniels. With a new 3-4 defense the Denver Broncos gave up the fewest points in the NFL (66) during the first six games of the season, and made their way to their first 6–0 start since the 1998 season in which they won Super Bowl XXXIII. The Broncos went 2 and 8 the rest of the way, and missed the playoffs. On January 18, 2010 Mike Nolan and Josh McDaniels mutually decided Nolan would resign as the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos.[1]On January 19, 2010, Nolan was hired by the Miami Dolphins as Defensive Coordinator. On January 17, 2012, Nolan was hired by the Atlanta Falcons as Defensive Coordinator [4]Who would have known all of our questions could be answered by a simple copy & pasta from wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The philosophy of his defense starts in 34Exactly. He may start with 3-4 philosophies, but his packages are exotic. Sure, we may run a little 3-4 base, but a lot of what we will be running with be hybrid schemes, not a simple 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Who would have known all of our questions could be answered by a simple copy & pasta from wiki.Bingo that's the point, instead of trying to pass ourselves off as insiders of mike Nolan's inner circle. Find links, support your argument. Don't post pics from the 2011 ravens whom Nolan has long since departed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Who would have known all of our questions could be answered by a simple copy & pasta from wiki.Mike Nolan: Falcons sticking to 4-3JANUARY 18, 2012 4:44:19 PM PSTBy Pat YasinskasMike Nolan is usually viewed as a coach that runs the 3-4 defense. But the Atlanta Falcons are going to be sticking with the 4-3. In a conference call with the Atlanta media Wednesday, Nolan, who was hired Tuesday as the team's defensive coordinator, made it a point to clarify that perception is not reality. He said he’s been an NFL coordinator for 14 seasons. He said, in seven of those seasons, he’s run the 3-4 and has run the 4-3 the other seven seasons. He also pointed out that he’s used elements of both schemes simultaneously.“It’s my philosophy that you build your scheme around the players, not the other way around,’’ Nolan said. “What has been built there, I think is a very solid foundation on a 4-3 defense.’’ Nolan, who ran the 3-4 as defensive coordinator in Miami the last two seasons, said sticking with the 4-3 was not an order handed down by coach Mike Smith as he interviewed for the job. Nolan said he and Smith watched film together of Atlanta’s defense and he asked what Smith’s vision going forward was. “Mike’s response was very honest and frank,’’ Nolan said. “He said, "Look, we’ve built to this 4-3 and this is what we are and this is what we look like, but I want you to look at it as well." Nolan said Smith was open to all ideas as they talked, but the two agreed a dramatic change in scheme wasn't needed. “I think Mike’s open-minded about that, but I do believe that the vision for them and the target they’ve been hitting is one that we want to stay consistent and go forward in that respect,’’ Nolan said. “If I felt like it could be easily tweaked to go to something else because I thought it would be better, then I would obviously suggest it. But, as it is, I think the track they’ve been on is good." Nolan said he had other opportunities as a defensive coordinator elsewhere. It was reported he was a possible candidate for the job in New Orleans. But Nolan said his familiarity with Smith (the two worked together in Baltimore) was a selling point. “To me, it just was a good fit," Nolan said. “More than anything, I want to win. The Falcons have been doing a good job of that. They haven’t reached their ultimate goal yet. But everybody’s in pursuit of that and only one team gets to get it at the end. But this is a football team that’s very close. Hopefully, I can add to that and be a part of that.’’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romfal Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 everyone should block Free Radical, that way, every time he posts he is right and no one will contradict him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 LMAO IT WAS A HYBRID DEFENSE IN DENVER TOO!!!!! hahahahahhhhhttp://www.milehighreport.com/2009/7/21/951357/2009-denver-broncos-breaking-downMike Nolan returns to Denver and hopes to revive the defense by switching over to a 3-4 hybrid scheme. This changeover in the base defense resulted in several players getting kicked back from DE to LB - holdovers Dumervil, Tim Crowder and Jarvis Moss. Ayers and Reid are expected to join the trio as a group of "hybrid" linebackers/ends.Jets DE Marques Douglas, who played under Nolan in SF and Baltimore, had the following to say about Nolan's scheme in an interview with broncotalk.net:"His defense is more of an attacking, penetration defense that utilizes speed and athleticism, not necessarily size. It is a style of defense that can bring about big plays and also extend the careers of players. It is different than a one-gap defense that you see in a 4-3. At its basic package, it is a two-gap defense. When it gets switched up, you will see a lot of slanting and movement in and out of the gaps...He knows how to game plan and he knows how and where to put players in order for them to succeed. He brings a sense of youth and enthusiasm to the field that not all coaches have." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Bingo that's the point, instead of trying to pass ourselves off as insiders of mike Nolan's inner circle. Find links, support your argument. Don't post pics from the 2011 ravens whom Nolan has long since departedBump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We were not a traditional 4-3 under Nolan. From 2 years ago against the chiefs. Photo is grainy, but you can see 1-tech NT, 3-tech DT, and 5-tech DE, and Abe as the SLB on the strong side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 LMAO IT WAS A HYBRID DEFENSE IN DENVER TOO!!!!! hahahahahhhhhttp://www.milehighreport.com/2009/7/21/951357/2009-denver-broncos-breaking-downMike Nolan returns to Denver and hopes to revive the defense by switching over to a 3-4 hybrid scheme. This changeover in the base defense resulted in several players getting kicked back from DE to LB - holdovers Dumervil, Tim Crowder and Jarvis Moss. Ayers and Reid are expected to join the trio as a group of "hybrid" linebackers/ends.Jets DE Marques Douglas, who played under Nolan in SF and Baltimore, had the following to say about Nolan's scheme in an interview with broncotalk.net:"His defense is more of an attacking, penetration defense that utilizes speed and athleticism, not necessarily size. It is a style of defense that can bring about big plays and also extend the careers of players. It is different than a one-gap defense that you see in a 4-3. At its basic package, it is a two-gap defense. When it gets switched up, you will see a lot of slanting and movement in and out of the gaps...He knows how to game plan and he knows how and where to put players in order for them to succeed. He brings a sense of youth and enthusiasm to the field that not all coaches have."It says it's a 2 gap, at it's basic package ,you miss that? Also called a 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 hey, opinions aren't accepted by you and the other know it alls so why not post a link from someone who gets paid for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We were not a traditional 4-3 under Nolan. From 2 years ago against the chiefs. Photo is grainy, but you can see 1-tech NT, 3-tech DT, and 5-tech DE, and Abe as the SLB on the strong side.Who said were a traditional 43 under ? Not me. We actually stayed mostly 43 according to an article with Nolan quotes his first year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Who said were a traditional 43 under ? Not me. We actually stayed mostly 43 according to an article with Nolan quotes his first yearme either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 hey, opinions aren't accepted by you and the other know it alls so why not post a link from someone who gets paid for itReally? Opinions aren't accepted by me and others? Get off your high horse dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five_Fifs Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Can we just agree to that a minimum, we are better staffed.....We use a scheme that, lining up, is very similar to the one gap 3-4, and the 4-3 under......but Nolan tends do his own thing once the ball is snapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Really? Opinions aren't accepted by me and others? Get off your high horse dude.the posts speak for themselves. You should take your own advice, dudeCan we just agree to that a minimum, we are better staffed.....We use a scheme that, lining up, is very similar to the one gap 3-4, and the 4-3 under......but Nolan tends do his own thing once the ball is snappedagreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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