smartfalconfan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) which one?Barr 6"5 255 A monster speed demon of the edge with not much bull rush poor man damarcus WareMack a bull rusher tough strong and a dominant like James Harrison Edited March 13, 2014 by smartfalconfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Murphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Clowney. I don't want Mack. Because the same ppl that wanted Ray Edwards want Mack, I can't trust their judgement on a pass rusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJay404 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 MACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconbeast712 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 draft in this order clowney mack watkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Negatorris Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack is on a different planet when compared to Barr lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartfalconfan Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Clowney. I don't want Mack. Because the same ppl that wanted Ray Edwards want Mack, I can't trust their judgement on a pass rusherClowney don't come off as wanting to be great to me.Just playing for the check not to Winn a super bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 draft in this order clowney mack watkinswatkins? not this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartfalconfan Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr is faster off the edge and played better talent but Mack a beast stopping the run and a good pass rusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack, with extra sauce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack. Easily. Barr is only good in drive, not reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdH3ad Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Clowney don't come off as wanting to be great to me.Just playing for the check not to Winn a super bowlLol because of one yr being hurt & what a bs expert says? Lol! Dee milliner & Xavier Rhodes were better than trufant also. Just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartfalconfan Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack. Easily. Barr is only good in drive, not reverse.Barr a better cover linebacker than Mack faster but Mack better at attack and can take on lineman and still get thru block and a better tackler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr is an athlete as he severely lacks technique. He has no bend around the corner, no pass rush moves, tries to run around OTs instead of engaging them and when he doesn't he tends to go upright into the OT. All of this screams disaster as an edge rusher in the NFL. Sure, you can point to his athleticism, but you don't draft total projects in the 1st round.Mack is a great athlete but he has very good technique. He plays low at the line of scrimmage to gain better leverage, he has a great dip and rip move, a spin move, and has a pretty good bull rush, and he's more than willing to engage OTs since he has skillsets to beat them. He also has plenty of experience in coverage. Also, he was on a team that severely lacked talent so he was the entire focus of offenses since there weren't any other threats on that defense yet he produced at a high level anyway.In essence, take Mack at #6 and don't even consider Barr in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconbeast712 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 watkins? not this again.Sure why not given what we have done in FA thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack. Easily. Barr is only good in drive, not reverse.Why exactly do you want your pass rusher going backwards? How often is Von Miller or Clay Matthews covering the flat or deep third???Vote for Barr and in my mind, the comparison ain't even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why exactly do you want your pass rusher going backwards? How often is Von Miller or Clay Matthews covering the flat or deep third???Vote for Barr and in my mind, the comparison ain't even close.See:Barr is an athlete as he severely lacks technique. He has no bend around the corner, no pass rush moves, tries to run around OTs instead of engaging them and when he doesn't he tends to go upright into the OT. All of this screams disaster as an edge rusher in the NFL. Sure, you can point to his athleticism, but you don't draft total projects in the 1st round.Mack is a great athlete but he has very good technique. He plays low at the line of scrimmage to gain better leverage, he has a great dip and rip move, a spin move, and has a pretty good bull rush, and he's more than willing to engage OTs since he has skillsets to beat them. He also has plenty of experience in coverage. Also, he was on a team that severely lacked talent so he was the entire focus of offenses since there weren't any other threats on that defense yet he produced at a high level anyway.In essence, take Mack at #6 and don't even consider Barr in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tootie Quivers Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr = Aaron Maybin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr is an athlete as he severely lacks technique. He has no bend around the corner, no pass rush moves, tries to run around OTs instead of engaging them and when he doesn't he tends to go upright into the OT. All of this screams disaster as an edge rusher in the NFL. Sure, you can point to his athleticism, but you don't draft total projects in the 1st round.Mack is a great athlete but he has very good technique. He plays low at the line of scrimmage to gain better leverage, he has a great dip and rip move, a spin move, and has a pretty good bull rush, and he's more than willing to engage OTs since he has skillsets to beat them. He also has plenty of experience in coverage. Also, he was on a team that severely lacked talent so he was the entire focus of offenses since there weren't any other threats on that defense yet he produced at a high level anyway.In essence, take Mack at #6 and don't even consider Barr in the 1st.The key to what you've said here is "experience". Mack should be better than Barr as he's been an OLB for a few more years (he's also a year older than Barr). If they had the same level of experience, Barr would easily be the better player. Even without the experience, Barr posted similar numbers at a higher level of comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnfalcon8 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why exactly do you want your pass rusher going backwards? How often is Von Miller or Clay Matthews covering the flat or deep third???Vote for Barr and in my mind, the comparison ain't even close.The ability to stay multiple on any down. When picking as high as we are you hope for a player that can stay on the field for all situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumblesjr Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 mack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The key to what you've said here is "experience". Mack should be better than Barr as he's been an OLB for a few more years (he's also a year older than Barr). If they had the same level of experience, Barr would easily be the better player. Even without the experience, Barr posted similar numbers at a higher level of comp.I was on the Barr train after his first year at OLB. I'm emphatically off it after year two. He demonstrated zero growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr = Aaron MaybinBarr: 6.82 3 coneMaybin: 7.58 3 coneCompletely different players. Barr has much greater explosiveness and flexibility, Maybin was a stiff, straight line athlete. Try again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Barr: 6.82 3 coneMaybin: 7.58 3 coneCompletely different players. Barr has much greater explosiveness and flexibility, Maybin was a stiff, straight line athlete. Try again...I will start taking you seriously when you cite game tape and not the combine. The combine is nothing more than a confirmation tool for the athleticism you see on tape, not a measure of how good the player is or will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTBF54 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Mack Attack................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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