xSICKxWITHxITx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 LOL this is actually a very good point.Somebody hack your account? You have always been a little negative, but you've taking it over the top now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Somebody hack your account? You have always been a little negative, but you've taking it over the top now.I think the luster is off of TD. Dude is falling apart a little bit. The other FA signings make some since. I don't get this one unless they are already giving up on Konz, which would ratify Konz as a really terrible draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why are we paying that dude 3 million dollars? Who in the h*ll does TD think we are bidding against?The Ravens and Giants was interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The Ravens and Giants was interestedWe should have let them pay him 3 million dollars then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think the luster is off of TD. Dude is falling apart a little bit. The other FA signings make some since. I don't get this one unless they are already giving up on Konz, which would ratify Konz as a really terrible draft pick.His cap hit is 2mil ... Thats nothing .. He will compete with Konz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 His cap hit is 2mil ... Thats nothing .. He will compete with KonzI don't like the practice of continually pushing the dead money into the future to overpay non starter quality players either.What a freaking waste of a draft pick Konz was. Terrible.How many teams spend their first pick on a Center, and then have him compete two years later with a guy drafted four years earlier who could never crack the lineup?I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We should have let them pay him 3 million dollars then.Lol. Winning organizations with recent titles inquired about him but the Falcons are too good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think the luster is off of TD. Dude is falling apart a little bit. The other FA signings make some since. I don't get this one unless they are already giving up on Konz, which would ratify Konz as a really terrible draft pick.Falling apart? Lol, Hawley is a solid player and he will be even better now having a good RG next to him. Plus like Atljbo said it's basically a 1 yr deal to see if Tice gets Konz coached up which I expect will happen. Konz has been working out already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lol. Winning organizations with recent titles inquired about him but the Falcons are too good for him.Are you sure or just repeating what Joe Hawley's agent told you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Falling apart? Lol, Hawley is a solid player and he will be even better now having a good RG next to him. Plus like Atljbo said it's basically a 1 yr deal to see if Tice gets Konz coached up which I expect will happen. Konz has been working out already.If Hawley is solid, then why was he never in the lineup until the Falcons got desperate because Konz sucked so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 hes Konz backup ... you'll see .That wouldn't bother me one bit. It would mean that Konz has improved (which is what well all want to happen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't like the practice of continually pushing the dead money into the future to overpay non starter quality players either.What a freaking waste of a draft pick Konz was. Terrible.How many teams spend their first pick on a Center, and then have him compete two years later with a guy drafted four years earlier who could never crack the lineup?I don't get it.his signing bonus was 2 mil ... thats just a million dead money if we cut him ... we gain 3 mil of cap next year .... Thats if Konz wins the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Package Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 That contract is too much for this scrub. I am really disappointed they don't have a better plan. How much will Delapuente cost? I bet not a whole lot more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Let's just say you are all right about Hawley and that he is solid, and he is going to be the starting cener. I don't agree, but let's just say that I do.That would mean that the Konz pick is a complete and utter fail right, because we know for sure that Konz can't play guard in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I don't like the practice of continually pushing the dead money into the future to overpay non starter quality players either.What a freaking waste of a draft pick Konz was. Terrible.How many teams spend their first pick on a Center, and then have him compete two years later with a guy drafted four years earlier who could never crack the lineup?I don't get it.Lol Konz was a late 2nd round pick almost 3 rd round. He was originally brought in for RG which played decent at it at times his rookie year. Year 2 came and we threw him at C and he was not ready. Many Cs drafted play G 1-3 yrs before the move. Not all , but a lot.Hawley was a 4th round pick who's always been pretty much a solid G/C. He played really well last year which was his first real chance. McClure was never going to be benched so Hawley had no shot and after drafting Konz who was a higher pick got the priority. Once called upon he delivered. What's not to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lol Konz was a late 2nd round pick almost 3 rd round. He was originally brought in for RG which played decent at it at times his rookie year. Year 2 came and we threw him at C and he was not ready. Many Cs drafted play G 1-3 yrs before the move. Not all , but a lot.Hawley was a 4th round pick who's always been pretty much a solid G/C. He played really well last year which was his first real chance. McClure was never going to be benched so Hawley had no shot and after drafting Konz who was a higher pick got the priority. Once called upon he delivered. What's not to get?Why we drafted Konz. He sucks. Hawley is slightly better, but not really a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Package Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I agree with Peyton. The whole reason Konz was drafted was because Hawley wasn't cutting it at center. Now that Konz has been a bust we decide to re sign Hawley for 3 mil a year because he is less of a fail than Konz? What kind of a plan is that? So we go in to the year with a hope and a prayer that Tice can work a miracle? It's the same story every year with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorball12106 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Lol Konz was a late 2nd round pick almost 3 rd round. He was originally brought in for RG which played decent at it at times his rookie year. Year 2 came and we threw him at C and he not ready. Many Cs drafted play G 1-3 yrs before the move. Not all , but a lot.Hawley was a 4th round pick who's always been pretty much a solid G/C. He played really well last year which was his first real chance. McClure was never going to be benched so Hawley had no shot and after drafting Konz who was a higher pick got the priority. Once called upon he delivered. What's not to get? homer post . Nothing but bs .... Worst offensive line in NFL last year . How do we improve ? Add one new player and then re-sign / bring back 2 of the same players ... Td is horrible at oline talent . Will be his downfall .. Edited March 13, 2014 by taylorball12106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I agree with Peyton. The whole reason Konz was drafted was because Hawley wasn't cutting it at center. Now that Konz has been a bust we decide to re sign Hawley for 3 mil a year because he is less of a fail than Konz? What kind of a plan is that? So we go in to the year with a hope and a prayer that Tice can work a miracle? It's the same story every year with this.Yeah the whole Hawley / Konz thing is not TD's shining moment, that is for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artys Arryn Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 My question to the posters upset by this contract, what would you prefer?We brought in Tice so he can get more out of our guys. With Konz its too early to give up on and he has to have competition. The center market is devoid of good centers. If we have to have a mediocre center, he might as well know our system.And I really don't understand all the hate TD receives for Konz, he was generally viewed as the best center in his class. He just busted. Lots of players do. Hate on Holmes if you want to hate on a pick, at least he was drafted higher than projected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Let's just say you are all right about Hawley and that he is solid, and he is going to be the starting cener. I don't agree, but let's just say that I do.That would mean that the Konz pick is a complete and utter fail right, because we know for sure that Konz can't play guard in this league.If Hawley wins and play good... out plays konz ... we have a good center ... If Konz.win .. we got good depth with with Hawley for a year .I guess i see it differently ... The seahawks has missed on guys like Bruce irvin ... They admit draftin DEs not there thing so they sign them in FA.You will miss .. The point iis to hit more then you miss and find starters ... Now if Konz and Hawley bust ... This is a massive fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If Hawley wins and play good... out plays konz ... we have a good center ... If Konz.win .. we got good depth with with Hawley for a year .I guess i see it differently ... The seahawks has missed on guys like Bruce irvin ... They admit draftin DEs not there thing so they sign them in FA.You will miss .. The point iis to hit more then you miss and find starters ... Now if Konz and Hawley bust ... This is a massive failIf Bruce Irvin was proven to be a bust after his 8 sack rookie season I want to see the Falcons start busting like the Seahawks bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If Hawley is solid, then why was he never in the lineup until the Falcons got desperate because Konz sucked so bad?Leave it alone Bro I'm not a fan of Hawley either but I'm gonna give the Hawley crowd the benefit of the doubt.We have this RG now so he has no excuses.He also is getting decent $$$$ for a guy thats done nothing really in 4 years.I'll be interested to see if he can actually win the job at TC that will be a novelty in itself as he hasn't managed to do that in 4 years either.I'm not expecting miracles from this guy so baby steps is all I'm expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hawley played well last year with about 4 rotating RGs next to him, including the worst OL that we had.Now Hawley is in a better situation and in between two solid players. Players get better. It can happen. The years prior to last, Hawley didn't play well. He got another opportunity and capitalized on it.The legitimate reason for getting was because Hawley didn't play well but he showed plenty of growth at the end of last year. Sh1t happens. It would have been great for Halwey to show this 2 years ago but he didn't and we tried to fix it with Konz.Now we don't want to give up on a 2nd rounder so we bring back a NOW solid Hawley for insurance.It's truly not that difficult to understand. It's really based on your opinion of Halwey.If you're stuck on Hawley's first 3 years as a player, then you would understandably be concerned. But if you noticed Hawley's progress and play last year, then you are most likely accepting this contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Leave it alone Bro I'm not a fan of Hawley either but I'm gonna give the Hawley crowd the benefit of the doubt.We have this RG now so he has no excuses.He also is getting decent $$$$ for a guy thats done nothing really in 4 years.I'll be interested to see if he can actually win the job at TC that will be a novelty in itself as he hasn't managed to do that in 4 years either.I'm not expecting miracles from this guy so baby steps is all I'm expecting.LOL ok I'm done with it. Congrats to Hawley for his 3 million bucks I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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