thamill Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 With all this attention to the lines, I'd almost be ok with taking Sammy Watkins at 6 if the Rams don't take him at 2. Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachFalcon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'd trade back and take Denard over Watkins and get the extra picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamill Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 I mean last week I would have said ANYONE on OL or DL was a must. I still don't see how we pass on Mack if he is there at 6 but if he's gone, as is Clowney and the AUBURN OT, then I could see TD taking Watkins as Roddy is getting a little long in the tooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would take Ebron before Watkins at 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 PLEASE NOWe still need an OT, an OLB, and a FS. We are also thin at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 No you are not crazy I hope he does not make it to our pick because it would be nigh impossible not to draft him. He is going to be a incredible pro WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouDog. Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 No you are not crazy I hope he does not make it to our pick because it would be nigh impossible not to draft him. He is going to be a incredible pro WR.if he stays healthy. Which he wasnt able to do in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 if he stays healthy. Which he wasnt able to do in college.Didn't miss a game this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Why not just take Ha-ha Clinton-Dix?He is a heck of a FS and he will definitely go top 15 with an outside shot of going top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Nah if Mack is there take him. If not trade back and pick up Taylor Lewan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I would take Ebron before Watkins at 6.heck no. Ebron is not among the top 10 players of this draft. Trade back and get him. But taking him at 6 is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 heck no. Ebron is not among the top 10 players of this draft. Trade back and get him. But taking him at 6 is stupidyeah, but unlike Watkins, Ebron would be on the field for most of the game and would fit a need. Remember, every time our FO guys get asked about the draft they say we are a"needs based team" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlas Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 There is plenty of wr's to get later in the draft, and we have more pressing needs that everyone on here knows about - rt , fs, ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 yeah, but unlike Watkins, Ebron would be on the field for most of the game and would fit a need. Remember, every time our FO guys get asked about the draft they say we are a"needs based team"true but Ebron still isn't worth the 6th overall pick. We need a FS but I bet we dont take one at 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Why not just take Ha-ha Clinton-Dix?He is a heck of a FS and he will definitely go top 15 with an outside shot of going top 10.Charles Davis on "Path-to-the-Draft" said he is hearing whispers from a few scouts saying Clinton-Dix might not be able to hold up in 'man-to-man' coverage. for what its worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If watkins is the only top prospect left then id trade back and take calvin pryor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jluk Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Not sold on Sammy Watkins and the Julio Jones comparsion is way too generous. There were 5 WR in the 2011 crop that was straight beast. AJ and Julio have yet to really steal the show in the NFL but they will. There were spectalcular catches and the Julio vs. the 49ers showed how Julio Jones can be a dominant gamechanger. Sammy is not. He will not either. Not because hes average route runner (Timing with QB and reliability/consistency where he will be) but because he isnt physical either. He hasnt displayed overpowering accelleration and when he gets a dose of the CB in the NFL, he will learn that both AJ and Julio share something in common and its they both use their bodies well against defenders. Both have the body and mass and height to take hits (even bounce off hits, we seen Julio Jones do that a dozen times, watch any high light reel) It is extremely rare to have a big dude run a 4.4 and have almost complete body control to back pedal or acceralate into traffic. Julio has a slight advantage over AJ in this regard but its really hard to wrap up against Julio. You need a good tackling corner and help over the top to really take him down which is why nobody goes after the ball against Julio, they simply want to keep him contained. Sorry, I had to pipe in and get rid of this Julio Jones comparsion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power I Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Not sold on Sammy Watkins and the Julio Jones comparsion is way too generous. There were 5 WR in the 2011 crop that was straight beast. AJ and Julio have yet to really steal the show in the NFL but they will. There were spectalcular catches and the Julio vs. the 49ers showed how Julio Jones can be a dominant gamechanger. Sammy is not. He will not either. Not because hes average route runner (Timing with QB and reliability/consistency where he will be) but because he isnt physical either. He hasnt displayed overpowering accelleration and when he gets a dose of the CB in the NFL, he will learn that both AJ and Julio share something in common and its they both use their bodies well against defenders. Both have the body and mass and height to take hits (even bounce off hits, we seen Julio Jones do that a dozen times, watch any high light reel) It is extremely rare to have a big dude run a 4.4 and have almost complete body control to back pedal or acceralate into traffic. Julio has a slight advantage over AJ in this regard but its really hard to wrap up against Julio. You need a good tackling corner and help over the top to really take him down which is why nobody goes after the ball against Julio, they simply want to keep him contained. Sorry, I had to pipe in and get rid of this Julio Jones comparsion.I think you're wrong about AJ not stealing the show. He's ahead of Julio at this point because he's been healthier, but AJ has certainly cemented his place as THE elite, young receiver. I'd still take Calvin, but Fitzgerald and those guys are much older at this point. It's going to come down to AJ, Julio, and Dez as the next crop of elite receivers leading the league. Edited March 18, 2014 by Power I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Charles Davis on "Path-to-the-Draft" said he is hearing whispers from a few scouts saying Clinton-Dix might not be able to hold up in 'man-to-man' coverage. for what its worth.What a terrible reason. Most safeties aren't going to be matched up man to man 99% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTUS12 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I would take Ebron before Watkins at 6.Seriously???… If so, why?What a terrible reason. Most safeties aren't going to be matched up man to man 99% of the time.Actually this is part of the reason DeCoud was cut. In our scheme, DeCoud was used in the slot a lot. Other teams are starting to use their S more in underneath man cov responsibilities too. It is one of the new trends in the NFL. As Calvin Pryor mentioned the other day, scouts want to know if these guys can backpedal and turn their hips like CBs. If they can't, it will limit which teams/ schemes they can play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 With all this attention to the lines, I'd almost be ok with taking Sammy Watkins at 6 if the Rams don't take him at 2. Am I crazy?Nah, you're not. I expect we'd reach for Lewan or Barr before we did, however. But I'd have no problem adding a playmaker in a draft filled with great defensive prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Seriously???… If so, why?Actually this is part of the reason DeCoud was cut. In our scheme, DeCoud was used in the slot a lot. Other teams are starting to use their S more in underneath man cov responsibilities too. It is one of the new trends in the NFL. As Calvin Pryor mentioned the other day, scouts want to know if these guys can backpedal and turn their hips like CBs. If they can't, it will limit which teams/ schemes they can play for.Great point. Decoud was more a deep zone guy. You almost have to be a cb as a S these days, or you'll be a part time guy playing close to the line a few times a game (Motta probably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamill Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Seriously???… If so, why?Actually this is part of the reason DeCoud was cut. In our scheme, DeCoud was used in the slot a lot. Other teams are starting to use their S more in underneath man cov responsibilities too. It is one of the new trends in the NFL. As Calvin Pryor mentioned the other day, scouts want to know if these guys can backpedal and turn their hips like CBs. If they can't, it will limit which teams/ schemes they can play for.With that in mind, it makes me think bringing in Champ Bailey(who has openly said he would play Safety) would be a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thamill Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Nah, you're not. I expect we'd reach for Lewan or Barr before we did, however. But I'd have no problem adding a playmaker in a draft filled with great defensive prospectsI'm just thinking that Julio's contract is going to be through the roof. If we could get the "next" Julio on a rookie contract for three years it would be epic. Especially with the strong defenses in our division. Car and NO are good on D and Tampa brought in some heavy hitters in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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